Migration of discoverer workbooks from 4i to 10.1.2.2

Currently all our users are on discoverer 4i and save there workbooks to their local network drive. We are in the process of upgrading to EBS 12 and Discoverer 10.1.2.2 and want to know the best way to migrate users workbooks so that they are usable in the new version of Discoverer. Should we have them save them to the DB before we start the upgrade process or the the workbooks created in 4i work in 10.1.2?
Thanks

Hi,
is there a way to import all the workbooks at once?Yes, you can run discoverer desktop from a command file and use the /savedb command e.g.
dis51usr.exe /connect user/password@database /savedb "c:\myworkbooks\sales.dis"
Could we just copy the .DIS files to the directory on the server where they are stored and would whis maintain security?No, the .DIS files can only be opened with Disco Desktop and will not be converted until they are saved in the database.
Rod West

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