Mixing Spot Colors & Spot and CMYK

My recent project required the use of two spot colors, one resting on top of the other one. But, when the project went to press, the top spot color - used on a font, looked horrible against the spot color - used for the background color. Not at all like the file. I would guess that these two colors mixed and created a different effect than intended. How can I prevent this in the future? How do I set up my InDesign files with this in mind?
Also, the same situation as above, but mixing spot colors and CYMK (one on top of the other). Suggestions, ideas, do's and don't? How do I set up my file correctly?
Finally, how do I mix 2 spot colors to create a 3rd spot color in InDesign? Is this possible?

It sounds as though you had unwanted overprinting of spot colors. And if you previewed the file with Overprint Preview, you could have seen this undesired effect. Did you see a contract proof of project before going to press? If so, did the proof have the same undesired result?
As for mixing 2 inks... you can do this, but you really are not creating a 3rd spot color. With 2 spot inks already created in the swatch panel, select New Mixed Ink Swatch from the flyout. Here you can select any inks and the percentage mix to create many variations.
--Looks like Robert and Ozzwoman beat me to it--

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Mixing Pantone Colors - Just like CMYK channels???

Hey Everyone,
I just signed up to the forum and had a look around. Hello everyone and I'm glad forums like this are around!
So, my question is hopefully one that is possible. I've looked elsewhere but can't find any difinitive answer or perhaps I haven't worded the question right but here it goes...
What I'd like to do [in photoshop] is treat 4 pantone colors just like CMYK channels. What I mean by that is that I would like to replace Cyan, Magenta, Yellow and Black with my own colors [pantone colors] and have them mix and act exactly like those channels. As in, when I open a full color image, and my pantone [or any color] channels or color profile is active, the full color image will react to those colors [with the blending of the colors].
Instead of 45% Cyan, 55% Magenta, 83% Yellow, and 2% Black in a given spot, it would be a mix of the 4 chosen colors [example: 45% pantone A, 55% Pantone B, 83% Pantone C, 2% Pantone D].
or to put it another way, if I were to color the background in, say, a blue, I would be able to use the "Info" panel to see how much of each pantone color was mixed to create that color. Obviously there would be a limit to the colors I could create based on the pantone colors I select.
I don't want to do anything printing wise with this technique. I am looking at it solely as an onscreen viewer or perhaps use it in some manner for screen printing.
Anybody have any ideas on how to achieve this?
Many thanks in advance.

Beyond setting up a multichannel document there is no magic. And it is still merely an approximation because some colors can neither be simulated on-screen nor actually printed that way. That ultimately is the whole point - PS can't simulate anything that is impossibole in the "real world" and expressed as a color profile. Anyway, I have the feeling that you have a wrong understanding what spot colors actually are/ are meant for. They simply won't respond like the basic CMYK channels because their actual inks don't behave that way. Your ink percentages will never represent anything equivalent to a mathematical mixing formula as when using RGB or CMYK, instead they are the inks color multiplied by the opacity. In case of an on-screen simulation/ proof they would not even necessarily include effects that happen due to spectral absorption when light travels through the inks or the inks mixing chemically/ physically at the pigment level. It really doesn't exactly make sense for what you have possibly in mind due to the aforementioned specifics and limitations of the simulation. One could even go so far as to craft everything in red on screen and then swap the color for green during the printing process, assuming only 100% opacities are used. That is to say spot colors are often more considered like masks that constrain the actual ink to certian areas and when you think of it that way, you may begin to understand how and why your grand plan may fall apart. Of course we don't know what your artwork looks like, so it may work, after all, but I realyl think you are heading in the wrong direction, dreaming up something that doesn't exist.
Mylenium

In the toolbar I click on color face and see the RGB color space view. How do I put them into CMYK?

In the toolbar left I click on color face and see the RGB color space view. How do I put them into CMYK?
German:
In der Werkzeugleiste klicke ich auf Farbfläche und sehe den RGB-Farbraumansicht. Wie stelle ich diese in CMYK um?

I design print material. I hope Adobe will change it.
The ID Color Picker works the same as Photoshop's classic color picker except that it doesn't have an H,S,B presentation (which is the more intuitive interface). So both programs let you choose an R, G, B and L, a, b presentation of color via the 6 radio buttons, and you can pick RGB, Lab or CMYK versions of the chosen color—the mode you get depends on where your cursor is. If you pick an out-of-gamut CMYK color it is brought into gamut in the Swatches or Color panels after you click OK.
So here I'm picking RGB, Lab and CMYK Swatches or Colors of the color selection because my cursor is in a respective RGB, Lab or CMYK field, note that the Add Swatch button changes accordingly:
When I click inside the color field, the CMYK values are a color managed conversion of the chosen color, but I also have the option of entering any value. So it would be unlikely I would get a blue gray color like 50|0|0|50 with a color managed conversion, but I have the option to enter those specific numbers.
The 3 versions of the color added as swatches
An InDesign document can have a mix of RGB, Lab, and CMYK colors. Colors and swatches can be converted to any CMYK destination space when you export or print.

HTML code and CMYK percentages export

Hello everyone, can anyone tell me if it is possible to export all HTML color codes and CMYK percentages to a text file for it to be printed? it wouldn´t be from a complex image, I'll attach an image of what I'm trying to get that info from...
if anyone can tell me of a plugin, third party program or any way to do it through PS, it'll be greatly appreciated
thanks in advance,

Here are a few sites that may help. Though none are exactly what you wanted.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_colors
http://chir.ag/projects/name-that-color/
http://www.colorjack.com/sphere/
http://kuler.adobe.com/#themes/rating?time=30

Spot and Process colors - Color Mode confusion?

I have a question about how to choose colors in the New Color Swatch window. I think that I understand the difference between spot and process colors, but the dropdown options confuse me because whether I choose Spot or Process in the Color Type dropdown, the same list of libraries appears in the Color Mode dropdown. How does that work, or why does that happen? Is it a conversion? For example, if I choose Process as the Color Type, but then choose Pantone Solid Coated in the Color Mode, it shows me the colors available, but aren't the Pantone libraries for spot colors? And if I choose Spot as the Color Type, but then pick CMYK in the Color Mode, it gives the CMYK sliders. But shouldn't I be forced to pick from a Pantone library for a spot color? I would appreciate any explanations of this as I want to make sure that I pick the appropriate colors for my printed projects. Thank you!

You can create a spot color with a custom CMYK mix (and even name it the same as a library color if you want). The utility here is that you can create a custom spot color with a custom process conversion, or use your own own conversion numbers for one of the book colors if you think you have a better mix. I recently had to do a special mix for a Pantone spot conversion to fit a particualr press in order to get a better match to some other materials. That's how we handled it, though I did it by aliasing the pantone swatch to my custom spot and then changing that to process in the ink manager, rather than messing with the library color directly, which meant I could have either the custom or the book values, depending on the settings I chose, if the job went to another press.
There are, I believe, four sets of process libraries included in ID. The Pantone Process libraries are sets of stepped percentage mixes of the four process inks and have names that start with DS followed by some numbers. I think TrueMatch is a simialr system, though I've never worked with a printer who used it. Pantone Color Bridge and Solid to Process libraries are both process simulations of the Pantone Solid spot libraries. The Color Bridge is newer, and I think is largely replacing the solid to process.
You can get printed swatch books for any of the included libraries (spot and process) and you should do so for any library that you are going to use to specify color. Spot colors in particular may not render well on your monitor, and the press operator couldn't care less what you see on your screen. He's going to pull out his swatch book to verify that the color he puts on the page is the same as you specified.

Color Conversion from Spot to CMYK

How are you able to convert spot colors to the correct color bridge numbers in when rasterizing an eps file? It appears to be driven by color settings,
but no matter what is selected, the numbers are never correct.

Depends what you mean by 'correct' as there are several models and possible correct answers...
A spot colour is often outside the gamut of cmyk and therefore will look different to the spot and there are different ways to come to a representative colour, so there is no 'correct' numbers, it is a subjective assessment.
If you can find a conversion environment that gives a good 'look' then that is correct, for you...

How to select matching RGB and CMYK colors

Starting from scratch for a client, how do I select matching RGB and CMYK pairs?
Say we find a nice red colour in RGB for screen use, how do I then find the correct CMYK for print? And what assumptions do I have to make when doing this, if any?
Would it be the same for the other way around (choose CMYK first for print and then find the RGB equivalent)
Is it more sensible to start with a Pantone colour and then find the RGB and CMYK equivalents for that?
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RobbieG
(I'm working with Ai, Ps and Id CS6)

Yes. Better to start with Pantone reference books where you are viewing the color in a reflective environment. As already mentioned, color on the monitor can be deceptive. And, I think the others are basiclt saying that you should have everything calibrated and use color management policies in your apps. There is a way to find CMYK equivalents using Photoshop's color palette. Let's say you have an RGB Red as the foreground color in Photoshop. If you double click on the swatch you will get Photoshop's color palette which lists the RGB percentages, CMYK percentages, LAB percentages, and HEX web color for that Red. You can go further and select "Custom" and the Pasntone Spot color palette opens and gives you the closest Spot color value for that Red. This however, depends on your color settings. That's why I recommend you start with the Pantone swatch book and get the perecentages of CMYK from their formula guide which is set to industry standard color.

Who is happy with Spot and Patch?

First let me say that I'm thrilled almost completely with Aperture in general. It pretty much solidified my transition to digital from film. I have a long workflow history with scanned slides and photoshop so I am quite used to and adept at spotting and patching my shots with their wonderful healing brush, clone tool, etc. I was excited about the prospects of using aperture for all the minute details that go into a workflow but the one glaring shortcoming is the spot and patch tool. I find the spot tool does a very bad job of using surrounding details to fill in a spot. You get a circular blur that might be accurate color wise but retains no detail. This is very apparent on skin. It's pretty much unusable. And the patch tool is a poor substitute for cloning. No matter what I do I cannot get it to blend in, I always see the circle.
I know what you all are going to say, just shoot it over to photoshop. This is what I've been doing but it really causes the size of your library to grow since you don't get the advantages of the smaller RAW file size.
Maybe in Aperture 2.0? Any one have any thoughts.

I've had very good success with the Spot and Patch tool, but you have to be very careful about the areas you work with. Chad's advice is very good---read the PDF. Note that the PDF says at the very outset under "Spotting Your Images"--"When the area around the blemish is continuous (such as a solid color) and doesn’t contain a distinct texture, you can use the spotting method to obscure the blemish by integrating the pixels that surround it."
In my experience, that advice is critical. Spotting and patching replace pixels with other pixels. Ideally, what you want to do is have Aperture take out an anomolous set of pixels (they don't match their surrounding pixels, hence they create a spot) and replace these pixels with ones that have the same characteristics of the surrounding pixels. So, for example, if the spot is in the middle of a very varied area, Aperture has trouble determining what you want as a replacement for the offending area.
The PDF tells us a lot about how to adjust the spotting and patching when the conditions for the operation are not ideal.

Hi guys. I've had my MacBook Pro for 2 years now. Last night it suddenly kept glitching to a dark grey screen every now and then, then it would flash yellow / blue spots, and now it won't go past the grey screen even when I reboot it. I don't think I can

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I don't think I can access my disk anymore as I've moved across countries since I've first gotten my laptop. it was working perfectly fine before it kept going to the dark grey screen with a little blue on the bottom.
If it helps, my camera light is still on, and it seems that my computer is working properly itself, but won't go past this grey screen.
I'm a college student and am really panicking about this - can anyone please tell me what to do?
Thank you & sorry for the long post.

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please provide me the uses and how to implement them for our requirements?
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Vishnu.

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Thank you for visiting Apple Support Communities.
Here are a couple troubleshooting articles that I would recommend taking a look at when experiencing this issue.
Issues installing iTunes or QuickTime for Windows
http://support.apple.com/kb/ht1926
iTunes 11.1.4 for Windows: Unable to install or open
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Why do Adobe Color CC and Indesign CC not convert CMYK to RGB the same?

I recently used Adobe Color CC to create a color theme that will be used for both print and web. I created the theme with approved CMYK values with the intent of saving the .ASE file to be imported into other CC apps. Corresponding RGB, Hex, Lab and HSB values are automatically created. Of course, we are using CMYK for print and RGB for web
A coworker had separately created the same exact CMYK theme in InDesign CC, and created RGB values from the same exact CMYK values I had used in Adobe Color.
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I found what change it to normal way, but logicaly it's should not be a reason for autoconvert colors. If I choose CMYK and want add CMYK color it should be CMYK (in name minimum) and not RGB.
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Right now options open like CMYK, not HSB. But if I want color in RGB it added like CMYK. Options like in CMYK, not HSB, again. Still look like error.

I am having trouble with resetting my ipad mini. I have been having it on reset for 2 hours already and its still on the same spot and not moving anywhere. How long does it usually take to restore settings?

Anyone having same issue as mines please help me put. I am having trouble with resetting my ipad mini. I have been having it on reset for 2 hours already and its still on the same spot and not moving anywhere. How long does it usually take to restore settings? And how can i exot put of ot from restoring anymore?

This is how you Reset - Reset the iPad by holding down on the Sleep and Home buttons at the same time for about 10-15 seconds until the Apple Logo appears - ignore the red slider - let go of the buttons. (This is equivalent to rebooting your computer.) No data/files will be erased. http://support.apple.com/kb/ht1430
Are you trying to do a Restore?
Restoring iOS software
http://support.apple.com/kb/ht1414
iPad: Unable to update or restore
http://support.apple.com/kb/ht4097
iTunes: Specific update-and-restore error messages and advanced troubleshooting
http://support.apple.com/kb/TS3694
If you can’t update or restore your iOS device
http://support.apple.com/kb/ht1808
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