Modifier keys with multiple keyboards / keypads

I've got a weird one. I'm running 10.6.2 on a Mini with a Kinesis Freestyle Mac keyboard. I also just got an Ergodex DX1 input system with the Keyjack Mac software. It's amazingly cool, but there's an issue that the company says is an OSX bug/feature: the modifier keys on my main keyboard don't affect keys I've programmed on the DX1. For example, I have keys programmed as the cursor keys. However, I can't get cmd-up, shift-up, etc, using the Kinesis command and shift keys.
This is a pain and required me to waste the limited DX1 keys to have its own modifiers. Is there some way around this? I've read many threads about weird behavior with modifier keys and multiple keyboards, but haven't seen this specific issue.
Thanks for any help!
David

Something similar was asked before where the person wanted to use multiple keyboards ("standard" keyboards, but one for each hand.) It was found that the modifier keys worked only for that device. (e.g.: shift on left keyboard did not affect shift status on right keyboard.) It appears to be a limitation with most modifier keys on any keyboard, PCs included. The way most keyboards work, (at least most USB keyboards,) a code is sent with the appropriate "letter", not which key(s) are press. IOW, there's a code for "s" and "S", but not "shift-and-s". Unlike Caps Lock, the Command key is more like the shift, control, option keys, which do not have separate "codes" of their own.
So unless someone else has some other idea to try, I think you're out of luck.

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