More Borders

Hi, been using Indesign software for a couple of years now, migrated from Quark.
Does anyone know of any third party plugin for fancy borders. Indesign ones are a little basic. I know you can manipulate them in corner effects, but I'm after something a little fancier to use on some small adverts in a local paper.
Cheers in advance
J

How about making what you want in Illustrator and placing the border art?
You can create custom stroke styles in ID, but you don't have nearly the variety or control (particularly for corners) that you get in an illustration package.
Peter

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InDesign Borders

I'm facing a major frustration, and I'm wondering if there's already a solution, or if this needs to be a new feature to be implemented in future InDesign versions.
Adobe Illustrator has a wonderful palette for brushes which can be used as borders for text, etc. However, InDesign seems to be at a standstill in its border palette development since.. well, since the beginning of InDesign. With the exception of some minor corner style developments, designers still seem to be constrained to creating flat, simple multi-lined "Quark" style borders. (e.g.: Thick-Thick, Thick-Thin, etc.) with a propriatory file type: *.inst.
It's impossible to find designers trading *.inst files online, versus the Illustrator Brush file types, *.ai files which can be found in abundance both for free or charge. My theory behind this is that, at some point in the last 10 years, a developer must have intended to expand the border creation abilities in InDesign, but never received any attention and concentrated on other more important features. Well, I'm here to appeal to the developers! It's time! Time, I say!
Now, why would I want the Illustrator Brush/Stroke functionality in InDesign?
Well, it seems like a no-brainer to me; it's a matter of workflow. When I'm designing anything more complicated than a logo or digital illustration, such as a flyer, a book, or any other multi-page piece with text and illustrations, I use InDesign for its pre-press abilities, bleed setups, typography styles, linking, etc. Thus, it just makes sense that if I make a border around a page, I should have a nice, wide variety of borders to choose from, or create ones on the fly from Illustrator *.ai files just like in Illustrator.
This apparent lack of cross-compatibility means in order to achieve anything more than a flat line or easter-egg smiley faces, I'm limited to creating a pre-shaped border Illustrator and placing it into the page. Resizing becomes a disaster as they end up having to be treated as illustrations rather than borders. "Edit original", "Edit original", "Edit original".
During my scouring of the net for a solution, I've found many other designers out there with the same question., some dating all the way back to CS2 days.
Incidentally, while we're at it, heck, I'd love to see the same abilities in Photoshop. I mean why not? It's got vector tools in there as well. There really needs to be more universal palettes in the entire Adobe Creative Suite series. It just makes sense. The unification theory of palettes! Mwahahaha! *clasps his hands* Yes, I ask for too much.. but.. well, it's a good idea, ain't it?
But seriously. It would be of massive use in InDesign; I'm surprised that it doesn't yet exist ten years into InDesign history. Is there a solution at this point? Or is this more of a feature request?
Cheers.
—RR—

I know I'm a trifle late as this question is shown as answered. Anyway, a couple of points. I used to use an app called Graphic Type Designer (GTD for short).
http://www.graphictype.co.uk/using_gtd.php?
It could create borders,corner peices, lines and corner effects using specially designed fonts. It would save these designs in WMF (Windows MetaFile) or plain text formats. I used it a lot with PageMaker and for a short while, InDesign as InDesign barely improves on the border selection that came with PM. I had to stop using it as it does not wotk with 64 bit Windows as although it is a 32 bit app, it retains a 16bit installer.
Anothe alternative I have found today by searching for, and finding some great Illustrator brushes is this site:
http://www.graphicxtras.com/
There seems to be a hell of a lot of brushes, borders and patterns for Illustrator on this site alone. As bob says, it is probably best (unles they add a ton more borders and effects in InDesign) to use Illustrator's borders and brush libraries to create custom borders. Hope this helps...
Ian

Insert columns and borders (merged and unmerged mix)

Hello!
I am trying to create a way to manage my grade book for standards based grading...
When I insert the copied columns, the borders either dont come along for the ride, OR it suddenly adds more borders. I have a stronger border around the perimeter of the whole clump of 3 columns, and itll end up with a colum border for every column in the newly inserted copied cells.
Any thoughts?
Thanks!

When I copy a group of cells, I never saw the borders copied in the process.
As I already wrote several times here,
if I select a cell whose at least one border isn't the standard one,
copy its style
paste the style to a range of cells
every cell of the target range receive a set of four borders.
Yvan KOENIG (VALLAURIS, France) 6 mai 2011 14:36:32

How to hide division lines in numbers?

Is it possible to hide the lines you see in every spresdsheet you create?
Also, how do you avoid those same lines to be printed out?
Thanks

There are two different kinds of lines: Borders and Gridlines. They both go around cells but they are not the same thing.
Borders are the lines that print. Borders can be turned off (set to "none"). You can set one, many, or all of them to "none".
Gridlines are not seen unless you have set one or more borders to "none"; the borders cover them up. Gridlines only are visible when the table is selected. Gridlines cannot be turned off but they do not print.
So, the answers to your questions are
The lines you see in every table can be turned off, kind of. You can turn off the borders but you cannot turn off the gridlines.
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I haven't found enough information about web viewing of
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I don't have a flash server, but I have a CMS capable of
serving individual swf or flv files. But in my output I have three
different swf files (not to mention an html).
For the sake of web viewing/streaming, what are my options?
1)is there a way in Captivate to convert it to a single file?
2)Are there any utilities for coverting to avi/mpeg? So far,
the only thing I've found is
http://www.adshareit.com/howto-swf-to-video.html,
but I don't know what settings to use. I tried its default
settings, and the result was three mpegs, all of them were huge and
none were usable.
3)are there special settings you should set up in Captivate
for web viewing?
4)my cms (which is specialized) has some ability to play
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Hello again Robert
Without seeing your actual output files it's a bit difficult
to say exactly what each file is for. But I can toss out some
generic information.
Often when you record a project in Captivate and publish the
output you will end up with four basic files.
ProjectName.SWF (Contains the bulk of your presentation)
ProjectName_skin.SWF (Contains the Playback Controls and adds
one or more Borders surrounding the main part of your presentation)
standard.js (An externally referenced JavaScript file. This
was was used to prevent seeing the "Click to activate" message that
Microsoft Internet Explorer used to issue when it played Flash
content. But IE has been updated so this message no longer appears.
Even so, the standard.js file is still necessary in order to
properly display your content.)
ProjectName.htm (An HTML file that is used to present the
Flash presentation)
Depending on what and how you recorded, there may be other
files involved too. You could see one or more Full Motion files
among the mix.
Additionally, if you used some of the supplied animations
that ship with Captivate, you could see those as well.
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IWork 09... buy or stay with 08

Hi
Just a quick one for those who had 08 and bought 09, what and how good are the main improvements to warrant spending on the 09. i know i can trial it but the experts are out there already.
Cheers

Shirley,
Borders or Frames are applied to objects or paragraphs via the Inspector.
+Inspector > Graphic > Stroke > None/Line/Picture Frame+
and
+Inspector > Text > More > Borders and Rules+
*iWork '09* does not have clipart (other than what is in the templates) which is what I think you are asking for. Those you can gather for yourself from Internet sources and after enclosing in a folder can be dragged into the +Media Browser+:
+Menu > View > Show Media Browser+
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Peter

How to remove/reduce the default space between two sections ?

How to remove/reduce the default space between two sections on the dashboards?

if you make a modification of the Dashboardlayout in the file PortalContent.css like
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border-width: 1px;
border-style: none;
border-color: #CECECE;
There will be no more borders. However the gap exists but the look of the 2-section report might look better.
There is an ER raised at the Oracle Support.
Enhancement 5655489: ABILITY FOR USERS TO CONTROL THE GAP LENGTH BETWEEN REPORTS AND SECTIONS
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Thank you.

Apple Computer Customer Relations:
1-512-674-2500

KDE window borders disappear when 2 or more users logged in

I spent a very frustrating Saturday afternoon trying to debug what I thought was a corrupted kde install. In short, if someone would try this & see if you get the same results, I'd appreciate some feedback:
- Logged in through KDM as a regular user or root
- After KDE is loaded, click on the Kicker button > Switch User > Start new session
- Login as another user (or root)
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I tried to install the user account several times using various methods but the issue persisted. I ended up trying an entirely different account and saw the same results which made me realize that my account I'd started with is not corrupted at all. This leads me to believe there is either a strange bug in KDE or some system setting I'm using is forcing this behaviour in my installation. I'd like to find out which is true or not true.
Feedback welcome.
MS

webweave,
Welcome to the Apple discussions!
Generally, as discussed above, having 2 mount points for the same disk in the volumes folder won't prevent a successful backup. But in your case (#15!), that's a problem. More often than not, they are being created by Time Machine because you already have one or more instances of the Time Capsule disk mounted on your desktop. Ejecting the TC disk when it is not needed is the best way to avoid creating multiple mount points.
If you have any further questions, please post them in a new thread. You can refer back to this discussion with a link if necessary.
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check out this:
http://www.keynoteuser.com/news/?p=226
it should pertain to Pages also, though the file might be in a different place in the app, and I wouldn't use the file download from the site except as a guide, because it was made for Keynote.
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JavaScript validation/override red borders?

We are creating numerous forms in LiveCycle and are very averse to having to specify "User Entered - Required" for two main reasons:
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most fields on most forms are required, we don't want to clutter our forms with red borders
The problem we encounter is that users can submit empty forms/null values via email, and I yet to find a way around this. Incomplete forms/data, particularly on things like requisitions and the like, can lead to delays in processing. We want to mitigate that by forcing client-side validation before users submit their forms via email.
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Now you see me, now you don’t.
Interactive forms highlight where you should enter data. To turn this highlighting on, click the Highlight Existing Fields button.
The fillable fields within the form (see example below) are highlighted in a light blue color. This lets you enter information into these fields. By default, Adobe® Reader® displays a red border around required fields. Pretty dang ugly, huh?
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app.runtimeHighlight = false;
Here’s how we achieve this:
Part 1:
In the Object palette, click the Value tab. Under Type, choose User Entered – Required.
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When the user clicks OK to clear the error message, form submission is cancelled.
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DocFlex/Javadoc 1.5.6, a multi-format doclet development tool and more

DocFlex/Javadoc is both a multi-format Javadoc Doclet and a rapid doclet development tool, which allows easy creation of professional quality Java API documentation generated by Javadoc in various output formats.
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Key Features
Availability
This Version
What is DocFlex?
Main Concepts
Other Applications
Links
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Template-driven doclet architecture
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THIS VERSION
New features:
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- Improvement of RTF output
- Multi-valued (list) template parameters
- Custom elements
- Standard Templates: Selective documenting of custom tags (similar to -tag option of standard doclet)
For more details, see product Readme | Change Log on the downloads page: [http://www.filigris.com/downloads/]
WHAT IS DOCFLEX?
DocFlex is an innovative technology for development of high quality template-driven documentation/report generators by any kind of data obtained from various software applications via the Java APIs they provide.
MAIN CONCEPTS
The whole DocFlex technology is based on four generalizations:
(1) The mapping of an entire Java API onto a virtual XML-like representation made of some elements and attributes so as to process any such a representation in a universal way using techniques borrowed from the field of XML, like XPath (or more precisely, a conceptual analogue of XPath with some extensions not present in it).
(2) The abstract formatting concept based on four layouts (flow of text, flow of paragraphs or paragraph-like objects, tables and lists), which can be rendered in most modern document formats (e.g. HTML, RTF, XSL-FO etc.)
(3) The automatic generation of hyperlinks (or their page number reference equivalents) by matching the sets of keys produced from certain natural properties of the things (entities) being documented and hyper-linked.
(4) The representation of the object controlling structure of the output generator (made on the first three principles) in the form of a plain-text template with a possibility to create and edit such templates using a graphic Template Designer, which visualizes the controlling objects (now becoming template components) in a form resembling the output they will produce.
OTHER APPLICATIONS
In fact, DocFlex/Javadoc is not the only application of DocFlex technology. The following is a summary of other DocFlex software:
DocFlex/XML
The SDK and runtime environment for rapid development and execution of template-driven automatic documentation/report generators by any data obtained from XML files.
This is currently the most complex and advanced application of DocFlex technology. Actually, this tool can be considered a powerful alternative to XSLT. At least, it is definitely able to do what XSLT apparently not (for example, see XSDDoc below). We will publish a more detailed comparison DocFlex/XML versus XSLT with the next DocFlex/XML release, which is coming very soon.
DocFlex/XML home page: [http://www.filigris.com/products/docflex_xml/]
DocFlex/XML | XSDDoc
A template set for DocFlex/XML that implements a high quality W3C XML Schema documentation generator in HTML and RTF output formats.
For more details, please see: [http://www.filigris.com/products/docflex_xml/xsddoc/]
DocFlex/XML | WSDLDoc
A similar template set for DocFlex/XML that will implement a high-end WSDL documentation generator.
This product is not released yet.
DocFlex/Together
A template-driven documentation generator for [Borland Together|http://www.borland.com/us/products/together/] (which is a UML modeling tool).
This is the earliest application of DocFlex technology and probably the most beautiful one. It works only with Together Architect 1.x, which is now obsolete. Unfortunately, since Together 2005, Borland eliminated any open APIs (for unknown reasons). Because of this, further development of DocFlex/Together was impossible.
DocFlex/Together home page: [http://www.filigris.com/products/docflex_together/]
See also examples of the UML documentation generated with it: [http://www.filigris.com/products/docflex_together/examples/]
The future DocFlex/UML is going to generate something like this as well.
DocFlex/UML
A template-driven UML documentation generator based on [Eclipse EMF|http://www.eclipse.org/emf/]. This tool is in early development stage yet. In a sense, it will continue DocFlex/Together with the focus on integration with other UML tools that use Eclipse EMF.
LINKS
This original article can be found at:
[http://www.filigris.com/ann/docflex_javadoc_v1.5.6/]
DocFlex/Javadoc home page:
[http://www.filigris.com/products/docflex_javadoc/]
DocFlex/XML home page:
[http://www.filigris.com/products/docflex_xml/]
DocFlex/XML | XSDDoc, the XML schema documentation generator:
[http://www.filigris.com/products/docflex_xml/xsddoc/]
Free downloads:
[http://www.filigris.com/downloads/]

Now, DocFlex/Javadoc v1.4 has been released specifically dedicated to Linux (Mac OS X) support:
(*) Some early bugs have been fixed, which prevented it working properly under Linux.
(*) A special RTF option was introduced to generate OpenOffice.org friendly RTF (see below)
(*) Improved support for external document viewers.
(*) Now, DocFlex/Javadoc software includes the shell script files prepared to quickly install and launch it under Linux
New RTF option
A new RTF output option "Tune output for MS Word� has been introduced. This option, actually, allows switching off that very tuning (which until now was the default mode) to produce an RTF friendly to open with other non MS Word applications, e.g. OpenOffice.org Writer under Linux.
Read full announcement (and screenshot) by this link:
http://www.filigris.com/ann/docflex_javadoc_v1.4/
Regards,
Leonid Rudy
http://www.docflex.com

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Hi Guys, thanks for getting back to me.
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