Motu firewire daisy chain with logic?

Actually 2 questions:
1. I have a motu 896 HD and a 828. I try to connect these with the firewire ports with no success. aggregate devices? Does not work for me...suggestions?
2. My 896 has main out 1-2 and analog 1-8. In logic the main out occupies 1-2 and analog 1-2 goes to 3-4 and som on... I have a mixing console and it would be much less confusing if the outs from the motu is the same in logic...suggestions?

I have used the same 2 devices as well as an 896HD with an Ultralite, as an aggregate device with no problems. Do this:
Plug the 896HD into your mac with firewire. Plug into the 828 from the 896.
Go to the MOTU device setup, and set the Clock of the 896 to Internal, and the 828 to sync to the 896.
Go to Audio Midi Setup, make new aggregate device, select both units, 896 first then 828 second.
Open logic and select the Aggregate device in the Core Audio Driver preference.
Then you SHOULD with any luck have both units working in logic, it should give you LOADS of inputs in the inputs section of the mixer. You can rename the inputs by either. Going to the Mixer>Options>IO Labels, and selecting "User Name" and inputting what you want it to be called. Or go to the MOTU device setup app, and change the input names there, then in Logic Select "Driver Name" instead.
Hope this helps, it is possible so don't panic.

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