Moving pictures in film rolls

Has anybody figured out how to slow down the scrolling when moving pictures from one roll to another? I keep whizzing by the roll I want.

This happens to me, too. I participated in a thread about this:
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=3075268&#3075268
although nothing has really corrected the problem for me. And while I have the utmost respect for Terence Devlin, who is probably correct 99.9% of the time, I'm still not totally convinced that this is a mouse problem. [Sorry, TD.] I just don't see it in other contexts, (not even in Finder) but it happens consistently in iPhoto, and only when trying to drag selected items.
That being said, I have learned to live with and work around it. When moving pictures between rolls, I must keep all rolls closed except the one I select photos from. If the target roll is on screen with the beginning roll, there's no problem. If not, I may have to drop the photos in the closest roll to the target that I can manage. Like iPhoto leapfrog. Say I'm scrolling up. I may drop the photos into the highest roll on screen before iPhoto begins to hyper scroll. Then scroll the window to move that roll down, and drag them a second time upwards. Eventually the roll I'm in and the target roll will share the screen, and I can finish the job.
I'll be watching with interest to see if you find a solution. [Now TD will come correct me. That's okay, I'm used to it. And like I said, he's usually right. So he's probably right. Try anything he suggests and let us know if it works. :-)]

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Hi,
So I'm trying to get my new MacBookPro up and running with all my previous iPhoto images. However it's not so simple as I would have hoped... my scenario is as follows:
I have an old MacBookPro (6years old) running iPhoto6 with all my existing photos organised in Film Rolls.
I have a new MacBookPro running iPhoto11, which I would like to move all my photos over to.
I have copied the old 'iPhoto Library' folder onto my new laptop into my Pictures folder, and then opened iPhoto. It converted the iPhoto Library to be compatible with iPhoto 11, but didn't find any new photos. After some searching, I found out that opening with cmd-option gave me a few options. I have tired 'Repair Database' option, and it then found my photos (all) but refused to import about 10k saying they were not compatible (?).
So I now have a large number of my photos in the new version of iPhoto. But I would
(a) like to have all of them imported, and
(b) like to have them imported in albums/rolls or some order (rather than effectively a singular large collection) given that I have about 10 years of photos and numerous rolls from various shoots.
Please can anyone help me? Is there some software that I can use to import the photos from an iPhoto 6 Library into iPhoto 11? I am dismayed that Apple appear to have left me in a complete and utter mess with this!
I simply want to be able to view my photos in iPhoto 11 in an ordered fashion, based on the order I had created in iPhoto 6 using Film Rolls.
Thanks,
Robert

Try this:
1 - copy the iPhoto Library from the old MBP again and place in the Pictures frolder.
2 - download and apply the iPhoto Library Upgrader 1.0.
3 - launch iPhoto 11, select the library and let it update it again.
OT

Sort by film roll in iPhoto 8

Come across an interesting problem.
A friend has a digital camera that resets the time and date every time the battery is charged, and not surprisingly after a while no longer bothers to re-enter the details, hence the date is always sometime in year 2000.
This has never been a problem as iPhoto sorted the pictures by film roll, so there was always a semblance of order. I must add that the original titles of the image number have been changed to descriptive picture titles.
I have just helped them to import their picture library onto the shiny new MBP, 10.5.5, iPhoto 8 (having told them how fantastic events is) and it has turned into a can of worms. All the images are now sorted by date order which means they are all over the place, and arrange by filmroll is no longer one of the options.
Anyone any ideas? Is there any way to get import pictures from iphoto 6 without it reformatting for events, or can i get iPhoto 8 to sort by iPhoto 6 filmrolls?
Thanks

Yeah the iPhoto 6 library is still on their old laptop, so that could work.
Do you know whether importing into iPhoto 8 would then keep that same film roll order, with over 6,000 pictures they are quite keen to keep a semblance of continuity.
You do NOT import the library
You must use iPhoto 6 on the laptop and rename any rolls - any roll that uses the default name of rollxxx will come across as an unnamed roll and it gets very confusing in iphoto '08 - once you have an iPhoto 6 library with no default named rolls in it quit iPhoto on both systems and drag the iPhoto library on the new computer to the trash and then drag the iPhoto 6 library from the laptop to the pictures folder on the new computer and launch iPhoto there - this will convert the library and keep the iPhoto 6 roll structure
The event order may be an issue since it is time based - there is a command under the photos menu to batch change date and time so you can use iPhoto '08 to restore the desired date structure
LN

My iPhoto screen previously showed thumbnails for each film roll. Now I only have individual pictures. I have lost my film roll categorization, though I have tried to sort by film roll. How do I get back to thumbnails within each film roll?

My iPhoto screen previously showed thumbnails for each film roll. Now I only have individual pictures. I have lost my film roll categorization, though I have tried to sort by film roll. How do I get back to thumbnails within each film roll?

what version of iPhto? Of the OS?
there is a thumbnial size slider in either the lower right hand or left hand corner of the iPhoto window - does sliding it resolve your issue?
LN

Moving Photos Between Existing Film Rolls

Can I move photos from one existing film roll to another existing fill roll, without creating a new film roll? And if so, how? I think this is a pretty basic question, but if I need to clarify anything please let me know. Any input is greatly appreciated, since I'm trying to organize my iPhoto Library and it's been pretty daunting. Thanks!

Oh man, I should have figured that out myself. I was dragging them just near the other photos, not into the Roll Name. Thanks for the help!

Problems moving pictures between rolls

I have also posted a topic about a problem combining rolls. This question was originally there too, but I thought it was a bit long, so I split it.
To solve my combining rolls problem, I could also move pictures from one roll to another. However, this is also flaky with iPhoto 6.0.6 (322). I can drag photos from roll A to roll B but then find I can't drag them back from roll B to roll A. Again, the behaviour is unpredictable. This is when I drop the dragged photos into an opened roll. What I find consistently seems to work is to drop the dragged photos onto a roll header wehn it has turned dark blue / purple. So, perhaps the answere here is to always drop onto the header - but it appears the pane should also work, and it does sometimes.
Macbook Pro Mac OS X (10.4.9)

You have the answer. Drop photos onto the roll's header. Only release them when the header is selected. That's just the way it works. I'm surprised dropping them into the thumbnails has ever worked for you; consider it a bonus.

IPhoto5 to iPhoto 6 upgrade: All Film Rolls in 1 Roll Now

Hi,
I have an external Firewire HD with my entire iPhoto library on it (over 13,000 photos/11 GB). I have back-up DVDs of each year (1999-2005) that I burned through iPhoto. Prior to upgrading to iPhoto 6 on the FW HD, I placed each folder from off the burned DVDs from IP5 (1999-2005) in the iPhoto library and then when I launched IP6 it asked me if I wanted to make a new library before importing the photos, and I agreed, yes. All the photos were imported, but they are all in one film roll. When I check an individual photo, it appears to still have all the meta-data (including the actual day it was shot). How do I fix this ? I am semi-savvy on OS X, but it appears the semi is the operative word here. I have "View as Rolls" selected under View. After doing a search here and reviewing Lori Diloreto's website (excellent resource-thanks Lori !), I just can't get my head around what I am doing wrong. Any and all suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks and regards, Chris

Do you have a backup copy of your V5 library as before you added the other folders and updated? If so move it into your Pictures folder, moving the other one to the desktop and identify as questionable. Now launch iPhoto and it will tell you it needs to update that library. Your should retain your rolls, keywords, etc. for those photos in the library at that time. Once you have the new V6 library up and running, mount a DVD disk and copy the folders of pictures to the desktop. Now import each folder into iPhoto from there. You should get a new roll for each folder imported. Do that for each disk.
If those DVD disks are titled iPhoto Library then they are in the iPhoto format and will be imported differently. The will have files in the library folder similar to those in your V5 library folder, thumbail files, data files, etc.
Again, starting from your old V5 library update just it to V6. Then put one of the DVDs in the drive and it will appear in iPhoto's Source pane directly underneath the Library icon - like this. You can drag that disc icon onto the Library icon to import all of the photos on that DVD disc and you'll keep keywords, comments, rolls, etc. intact. Do that for each disk.

Film rolls missing

Hello
I have recently upgraded to Tiger and iLife 05 Many of my film rolls are missing. Does anyone know if there is a way to find missing film rolls? It is curious that some of my old rolls are in the library and some newer ones but many of my rolls from earlier this summer a now gone.

Hi Frozen,
Let's see if iPhoto can find them again with a rebuild of the library.
Try this:
Before doing a rebuild make sure iPhoto's trash bin is emptied. You can do this by control clicking on the trash bin, or from the menu bar under iPhoto.
Close iPhoto
Duplicate the iPhoto Library folder
Drag the duplicate to the desktop (hopefully you have enough room on your hard drive for the duplicate.)
Launch iPhoto holding down the Command and Option keys until you see the rebuild options screen.
Choose the first three options. If you were missing photos in your library, also choose the last option. Be advised that you will get a roll of orphaned photos and it might be quite huge. Most of them will already be in your iPhoto library, but use caution when deleting anything from this roll until you are sure the photos are still in your library in another place. It might be a good idea to share/export this roll of photos just in case you need to import them again.
Back to the rebuild, depending on the size of your library it might take some time. When it is done, hopefully your photos will be there.
You might see some unexpected results as I did when I did a rebuild. Photos had been moved to wrong dates, video clips had lost their duration info and some were even orphaned from the jpg pointer file. It took me some time to straighten it out again.
This is the reason to make a duplicate before you rebuild, in case you do not like the result. If you don't like the result, close iPhoto, then delete the rebuilt library and drag the duplicate back into the Pictures folder making sure the name is iPhoto Library. Launch iPhoto and it should open the library in the Pictures folder.

Why even have film rolls?

Does anyone else think that they are a bad idea? I don't see any advantage to them. They just seem to make more work and over complicate things... very un-apple-ish.
You HAVE to import all the pictures on your camera into one roll. Then, you have to make separate rolls.
Or if you want to put some of your new pictures in an old roll, you have to click and drag, which doesn't seem to work well at all. If you have a large library and you want to get to an early roll it scrolls impossibly fast, and you can never get to the roll you want. Also, it doesn't always scroll (at least for me).
Then you'll probably want to make albums out of your pictures, which is a whole separate step.
Why not just do it like (dare I say it?) the Windows wizard? Select the photos you want to import, give them a name and a folder (or album) to store them in, and be done with it. If you want to have the same photo in different folder/album, just copy and paste.
Is it just me, or does that seem to make a lot more sense?
15" MacBook Pro 2.33GHz Mac OS X (10.4.8)

Hi.
Sure, Windows Wizard makes much more sense and is easier to use. Perhaps what you want is a file browser. There are many available. They let you simply store the photos on your hard drive, in your folders, how you want them. Easy.
With the film rolls, you only have to organize them once. Then place your new imports in the roll of your choice once, and be done with it.
You HAVE to import all the pictures on your camera into one roll. Then, you have to make separate rolls.
Not exactly. There are a few workflow options, and you may find one that works better for you. If you camera mounts as a drive on your desktop, you can bypass the iPhoto Import screen. Do File> Import to Library and you can navigate your camera's files, select only the ones you want, and import. If your camera doesn't mount on the desktop, use a card reader. Each import creates a separate film roll, so you could import in whatever arrangement you like. After the import, you can rename your roll to something descriptive that will help you locate your pictures later.
Or, use Image Capture (in your Applications folder) to upload the photos from your camera. [Image Capture's preferences determine which app opens when you connect your camera, so you can reset it if you like.] You can upload all, or choose some. Upload to a folder on your desktop, then use Finder to group into folders (for your rolls) and even rename the files if you like. Once uploaded, you can drag those folders (no subfolders, though) into the iPhoto window and they will be imported into separate rolls with those folder names. Or drag into the Source Pane, and albums will also be created with the folder names. Once copied into your iPhoto Library you can delete the original folders and files.
Then you'll probably want to make albums out of your pictures, which is a whole separate step.
That last part takes care of this.
Perhaps you are taking the term "film roll" too literally and creating extra work for yourself. With actual film, you may have had only 12 or 24 photos on one roll. With digital cameras, you might keep all photos from a 1GB card together on one roll. You can use the film roll comments to list the contents of the roll. Comments are visible when the rolls are closed in Film Roll view. I keep all my rolls closed to maximize iPhoto's launch speed. I only open the rolls I need to access.
Scrolling problems - YES, this seems to be a common experience. There are some ways to minimize them and work around them. Keeping rolls closed helps with this. More rolls fit on the screen, so it's more likely the roll you want is visible with the roll you are moving. If the target roll is still off-screen and you just can't get it selected, there is another technique. Select the photos you want to move and Command-click to select the roll you want them moved to (be sure this roll is open). Do File > Create New Roll and the photos will be combined. You'll have to redo the title, if you had renamed your roll before.
Why go through this, as opposed to the Wizard simplicity? Because iPhoto offers much more complex features than any file browser. iPhoto is not a file browser. It is a database application with non-destructive editing. You import a photo. iPhoto creates a thumbnail version, linked to your original, for efficient presentation of your library on screen. You edit, and it creates a full-sized copy, which you then modify. It keeps track of the edited version, linked to your original. Your thumbnail is also located and updated to match the edited version. If you ever wish to go back, you can always Revert to Original. The edited version will be deleted, and your thumbnail will again reflect the change. All before you can blink your eyes.
Then consider the Albums and Folders in your Source Pane. With a file browser, you'd have to duplicate your files to display them in more than one album (because album = folder). Copy and paste and be done with it, sure. But how many copies do you need on your hard drive? And how do you keep track of which ones have multiple copies and which ones don't? Things can get messy pretty fast, not to mention how much hard drive space is wasted on duplicates. With iPhoto's database, albums never create duplication; they are virtual arrangements which have no presence in your folder structure. The benefit - you can have a photo in 100 albums, with very little increase to the size of your library. Albums are an extra step, if you choose to use them. If this is inconvenient, you don't have to use them at all. But if you like the ability to create multiple groupings of the photos in your library, the ability is there.
Play with other search features, and iPhoto becomes very powerful indeed. Smart Albums can be created to compile photos based on many criteria, and they stay current with your library. With the calendar tool you can pull up photos from any year, month, and/or date with just a few clicks. Keywords can be used to include or eliminate (Option-click a keyword) groups of photos until you have just the grouping you want. [Ex: I can find all photos of my daughter, with my in laws, at a festival, NOT at Christmas, with animals....]
No one ever said iPhoto was intuitive. But if you like its features, learning the iPhoto way of doing things is a small price to pay.

How do you keep film roll data when exporting?

I'm moving to a newer computer and wanted to transfer my large library to the new setup. I have film rolls organized with original photo dates, but when I import the library in the new iPhoto setup from a hard drive all the dates change to the day I originally imported them by scanning, not the dates of the photos themselves. How can I keep all the film roll data I worked hard on to organize the photos?

I hope that someone comes along soon to tell you a better way, but in the meantime, here is what I do when I need to reset the date.
Open an event and click on one of the photos. Select the 'Photos' pull-down menu and choose 'Batch Change'. This allows you to change the date for all of the photos in the event.
I decided it was too much work to do batch change dates when I moved my photos to iPhoto four years ago so I keep most of pre-DSLR photos in a Picture file outside of iPhoto. Inconvenient at times, but I don't need to access older photos all that often. When I do, I just pull a folder of photos into iPhoto and batch change the date then.
I am sure there must be an easier way; I just stumbled onto this accidentally.

Orphaned photos (whole film rolls) not found

After a pretty bad crash (whole computer hung), forced restart, a lot of applications have lost their preferences and/or other settings files. For example Mail behaved like on its first run, asking me if I wanted to learn about new features, inbox was empty, but fortunately I could restore com.apple.mail.plist and all was fine.
iPhoto was a little bit more difficult though. First it presented me with an entirely empty library, no folders, nothing, just as if I had started iPhoto on a new computer for the first time. I quit iPhoto and restored "com.apple.iphoto.plist", "AlbumData.xml" and "Library6.iPhoto" from a backup. Then I ran iPhoto again... hurray, everything was the way it used to be... last week. But the photos I had imported since then (about 500) were nowhere to be seen.
Then I learned about iPhoto's feature for recovering orphaned photos. I launched with a bunch of modifier keys pressed, got the dialog, and rebuilt everything (thumbs, database, look for orphaned photos,...). Result: the orphaned photos were still missing. I suspect iPhoto will only find orphaned photos in folders (film rolls) it already knows about, not entire orphaned film rolls.
I located the photos in the FInder ("Filmrol 201" through "Filmrol 230") and tried copying them to the iPhoto window, hoping they would be added in. Nope, iPhoto actually complains it cannot add them to the library because... the files are located inside the library folder?!
I tried screwing with the "AlbumData.xml" file to add entries about the missing rolls, but that did not seem to help, and the entried were simply removed on the next run of iPhoto.
The only possibility seems to be moving the photos to a different location, then importing them into iPhoto from there (which actually makes a new copy of every file). Or maybe I will just import one photo to create a new film roll, then move all the other photos into that film roll folder, then let iPhoto look for orphaned photos.
Any other ideas? What would be the best, cleanest and safest way of making these orphans re-appear?
Also, does anyone know what exactly caused the preferences and other files to be corrupted like that in the first place? Just about any app that was open at the time of the crash, has lost its preferences and sometimes other files completely. I've heard of the same problem happening to other people too. It would be really nice if apps like Mail and iPhoto would keep backups of critical files. I am using FileVault, by the way.
Thanks,
Michel Colman
(pretty seasoned Mac user and programmer, so don't feel afraid to send difficult details and procedures)
PowerBook G4 Mac OS X (10.4.10)

Michel
Or can iPhoto "know about" a picture but not display it in the library? That doesn't seem to make sense.
It's for when something has gone wrong, but the first condition is that the pic must have been imported.
In your situation, following the restoring to the earlier db file, these pics were not imported, iPhoto did not know about them, they were not orphans.
iPhoto NEVER looks for photos anywhere. It simply reads it's database. If the file isn't in the database, then , as far as iPhoto is concerned, the file doesn't exist. The ONLY way iPhoto can be introduced to iPhoto is by importing it. Simply having files in folders won't work. Period.
At the very least, the description of the checkbox is misleading.
http://www.apple.com/feedback/iphoto.html
As for not importing pics that are in the iPhoto Library folder being a "sensible precaution", well, if these are photos that are not currently included in iPhoto's database, I think it should import them (by updating its library file, obviously not by making new duplicates of the files). But I guess I'm just being too logical now
See the link above.
However, if you read this forum you'll see that when issues arise the inexperienced user will try to re-import the iPhoto Library Folder to iPhoto, on the basis that the pics are "lost". If iPhoto did allow this you'd get libraries populated with thumbnails treated as full sized pics, plus, multiple copies of the fullsized pics on a rather common basis. Personally, I think that's sensible.
Regards
TD

"View Film Rolls" is not Highlighted.... how can I get to it? (iPhoto 6)

"View Film Rolls" is not Highlighted.... how can I get to it? (iPhoto 6)

Since you're using the term Rolls you must be running iPhoto 6 or earlier. For future problems be sure you post in the iPhoto 6 or forum.
For this problem the View File rolls will only Be sure you're clicked on the Library. That menu item is not available in an album or other item. If you have clicked the library icon first and it's still grayed out close iPhoto, delete the iPhoto preference file, com.apple.iPhoto.plist, that resides in your User/Library/Preferences folder and then try again.
TIP: For insurance against the iPhoto database corruption that many users have experienced I recommend making a backup copy of the Library6.iPhoto (iPhoto.Library for iPhoto 5 and earlier) database file and keep it current. If problems crop up where iPhoto suddenly can't see any photos or thinks there are no photos in the library, replacing the working Library6.iPhoto file with the backup will often get the library back. By keeping it current I mean backup after each import and/or any serious editing or work on books, slideshows, calendars, cards, etc. That insures that if a problem pops up and you do need to replace the database file, you'll retain all those efforts. It doesn't take long to make the backup and it's good insurance.
I've created an Automator workflow application (requires Tiger or later), iPhoto dB File Backup, that will copy the selected Library6.iPhoto file from your iPhoto Library folder to the Pictures folder, replacing any previous version of it. It's compatible with iPhoto 6 and 7 libraries and Tiger and Leopard. Just put the application in the Dock and click on it whenever you want to backup the dB file. iPhoto does not have to be closed to run the application, just idle. You can download it at Toad's Cellar. Be sure to read the Read Me pdf file.
Note: There's now an Automator backup application for iPhoto 5 that will work with Tiger or Leopard.

Will Not Display by Film Roll

I can't figure this out: When I am on the "library" selection, I used
to see a display of all the film rolls, listed separately. Now all I get is a scroll of photos with no indication of what film roll they are on.
How do I set the view so I can view the photos grouped by film rolls?

Hi Bill,
Actually the same thing happened to me under different circumstances.
I was dragging a group of five images to a keyword in the keyword panel.
I dropped them on the keyword and in front of my eyes the library images were shifting. (I have my view set to rolls). When I was done being shocked I discovered all my images were in one roll. This was not acceptable to me as I really like my dated roll organization.
I had recently done a backup so I dragged out the messed up library and dragged my backup into the Pictures folder.
I no longer use that keyword panel for keywords. I use the "get info" pop over window to keyword my images.
I really don't know what your iPhoto Library looks like in the Finder. If you can navigate there and tell me if your images are still in their dated folders, I can tell you what to do from there.
This is a view of how the iPhoto Library looks in the Finder.
It is organized by Year folders. Inside the Year folders are Month folders. Inside the Month folders are the days of the Month. Inside the day folders are the photos you took on that day. If you imported video clips and RAW files on that day they will be in an Originals folder. If you have edited any photo imported on that day, the original will be in that folder also.
If your images are still in their dated rolls in the Finder, then you can get those rolls back, but will lose Albums, keywords, slideshow...basically everything , but you will get your roll organization back.
You would follow the instructions on Page 2 for the "add to the library" method.
iPhoto Help
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IPhoto 6: Film rolls disappeared

is was busy renaming film rolls in the library when for some unexplained reason, the film rolls disappeared & only one enlarged picture is in view for each film roll. I cannot see the thumbnail pics in each film roll. How do i restore how the library shows film rolls? i tried going to View/sortby/film rolls. Nothing changes. Please help

Thanks TD for your reply. I did drag the slider on lower right corner to the left & yes all my pics are in view & I CAN SCROLL TO SEE ALL BUT...... the PIC ICONS ARE NOT yet listed in individual film rolls with the film roll name. I DID GO TO VIEW/SORT BY FILM ROLL (WHICH WAS ALREADY CHECKED) & STILL NO CHANGE. ANY OTHER IDEAS?
SIERRASISTER

Film rolls and photo dates out of whack

I opened my iPhoto ver. 5.04 the other day and noticed that thousands of pictures were absent. After doing a search here I tried rebuilding the library (using the option+command buttons at startup). While the rebuild returned the photos into iPhoto, they were all lumped into a single enormous film roll and most of the dates are reporting incorrectly in the iPhoto info window. The photos are still organized in the iPhoto library folders, but the application is not organizing nor recocnizing them correctly. What can I do?

doug:
Welcome to the Apple Discussions. Not a lot. Evidently the library database got damaged and the rebuild date is probably the latest modified date for many of the files. Once you get to that point there's essentially nothing one can do.
A possible tip for future use is to put our new photos to be imported into a folder on the desktop first, date and name the folder and then import that folder into iPhoto, like this. The resulting roll will have the same title as the folder and the date will help with future organization.
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