Moving Primary site to new datacenter, can secondaries be migrated?

We are currently running SCCM 2012 sp1 CU3.
Our Primary site server and SQL cluster reside in our datacenter, and we have about 50 secondary sites at plants around the globe (we have secondaries because we need to throttle upward-flowing traffic, this was a design requirement).
We are preparing to build a new datacenter and NOT move any of the servers from the old one.
The plan is to build new servers in the new datacenter, then migrate all the plant sites.
I am planning to handle this as a side-by-side migration; I will build a new Primary site and database cluster, set the existing primary as a source hierarchy to migrate packages, task sequences etc…
then migrate each of the plant secondaries and reassign clients.
I don't believe that it's possible to reassign a secondary site from one primary to another, so I think that I will need build all my plant secondaries from the new Primary site.
Is that correct?

That is correct, you can't move or migrate a secondary site from one primary site to another.
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