MPEG2-DVD question

I have a premiere CS5 project with HD 1920x1080p 24fps. I have (2) 45 minute timelines and I am using Encore to author my DVD.
Please help me understand the best way to approach this.
My first thought was to import both premiere timelines into encore and create the dvd. The resulting project was about 6GB so I used a Dual Layer DVD-9 for the burn.
From reading comments here, I got the impression that exporting from Premiere and creating MPEG2-DVD files might be a better option for better quality. I did this using Match Source Attributes and created two export files which I then brought into a new Encore project. The resulting project totals about 4GB.
Did I do this right? If this seems right, is the quality going to be the same using the second method? If the second method is good, I would be happy as I would be able to use less expensive single layer DVDs vs dual layer DVDs.
Please let me know the best way to approch this.
Thanks
Ted

Ted,
Glad you're asking these questions because they are exactly what I want to know too.
I have been importing sequences from Pr, then using the Progressive Hi Q 7Mb VBR 2-pass preset, which looked to be the highest quality preset.
However, after a series of problems (associated with multiple sequences in the one timeline), I re-coded using the Automatic preset.
I compared DVDs produced by the two presets on a high quality player.
I couldn't spot any differences in colour, contrast, brightness, etc, but I could see that when objects moved, the Automatic gave clearer motion! ie, less edge artifacts (can't remember the correct term).
This surprised me because I always thought a 2-pass encode was superior to a 1-pass one.
So, until I find out more about encoding, I'll stick to the Automatic preset for projects I encode in Encore.
Might try encoding in Premiere Pro - as Ann suggests.
Nevertheless, i'd be interested in your findings.
Thanks
Erik

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Exporting through Adobe Media Encoder as MPEG2-DVD but quality is pixelated. Help!

So, I am exporting my project through media encoder - MPEG2-DVD, Quality 5, NTSC, 29.97 drop frame, Progressive, Standard 4:3, VBR 2 Pass, 7.4697, 7.4697, 8.0382, Frames 3 & 15. I have done this process many, many times. Today, I am getting this pixelated junk when I pull the exported file into Encore. It looks smooth in the window prior to export but then it comes out like this. I am using footage that I captured into Premiere Pro and animation created in After Effects. Can anyone help?

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Problems exporting and playback the MPEG2-DVD videos, from .MP4 file!

I have PremiereProCS4 v.4.2.1 installed on this PC:
OS:WindowsXPProx64Bit; CPU:IntelCore2Quad Q9650; RAM:4GB DDR2 PC2-6400 Kingston; HDD:3x500GB WestrnDigital Caviar Green; VGA: Sparkle GeForce 9400GT 512MB.
I have downloaded an AVCHD file .MTS 1920x1080p 25p, made by Canon HF100 AVCHD camcorder, from this source (.rar file):
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=RWR5MNYHhttp://www.megaupload.com/?d=B9ZDX2RZ
The videos in question called: "25pf_1.25_f1.8.MTS" playback and export from Premiere as MPEG2-DVD very well.
I playbacked it on Premiere on the second Monitor as "OutputDevice". All Ok.
I playbacked also the DVD made with EncoreCS4, on the external DVD set-top-box-player. All OK.
I downloaded also another clip 1080p 25p, converted as .mp4, from the same author, imported then in Premiere with Preset "XDCAM EX 1080p 25p" (470MB) :
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=B9ZDX2RZ
No problems with playback.
Exported as MPEG2-DVD PAL "Lower Field First".
Opened in NeroShowTime Player: the video have a serious interruptions of the playback, some moments plays back-and-forward, and it isn't fluid at all!
I tried to create a DVD with EncoreCS4 and played it with DVD Player set-top-box, and the result is bad, and is the same as the playback on my PC with NeroShowTime Player. It present the back-and-forwars interruptions.
I tried also to create an AVCHD Project 1080p 25p and import the .MP4 file, but the problem persists !
After exporting them, and played-back on NeroShowTime and on Set-Top-Box Player, the video have strange behavior, and plays back-and-forward!
1) What Preset in Premiere should I use to editing, for this .MP4 file format, (filmed with Canon HF100 AVCHD and converted from original .MTS format to .MP4 format)?
2) Is this a transcoding problem?
3) Is this an exporting MPEG2-DVD PAL field-order issue?
This is my bad exported MPEG2-DVD converted file, available for downloading:
http://rapidshare.com/files/337858976/Canon_HF100_1920x1080p_25p_01_AVCHD25p.m2v.html
Strange! With .MTS files I haven't any exporting problems at all!
Please response me hurry!
Many Thanks!
Horsepower.

OK! Sanyo use a bad format.
But about JVC GY-HM100 Professional:
I know this model very well!
It records to .MP4 XDCAM_EX at the same manner of Professionals Sony Camcorder such this: Sony XDCAM_EX model "PMW-EX1" price €6.478,80.
This JVC GY-HM100 camcorder is not tha same as Consumer JVC camcorders.
It doesn't record MOD or TOD files.
It records .MP4 files editables in Premiere with XDCAM_EX "Preset"!
See those details:
http://pro.jvc.com/pro/attributes/HDTV/manual/editing1.html
http://pro.jvc.com/pro/hm100/content.jsp?model_id=MDL101845&attributeId=2&feature_id=02
See also this page:
http://pro.jvc.com/pro/hm100/content.jsp?model_id=MDL101845&attributeId=12&feature_id=12
The first Brochure called "A Guide to the Most Efficient Workflow with ProHD
(6 pg brochure)" explain very well the .MP4 - XDCAM_EX format and the Editing process that should be with Adobe PremiereProCS4.
I have inspected the downloaded .mp4 file in question, and GSPOT v.2.70a reading this:
-CONTAINER:
     isom: MP4 Base Media v1 [IS0 14496-12:2003]
-VIDEO:
     CODEC:avc1
     NAME: H.264/MPEG-4 AVC
-AUDIO:
      CODEC: mp4a: MPEG-4 AAC LC
1c) Is this an AVCHD video codec?

Media Coder Failing with MPEG2-DVD and H.264 Blu-Ray Encode

I am useing Adobe Media Encoder CC 2014 8.0.0.173 build.
I am a CC subscriber.
I am importing a Premiere Pro CC 2014 timeline.
I also have Premiere Pro CS6, Photoshop CC and CS6, Encore CS6, Lightroom 5, Indesign CC and CS6 installed. Just updated all apps from the cloud.
When exporting the timeline to MPEG2-DVD I get the failed status.
In the text note section this is the result: MXF decode error in "J:\Murray-Gross Wedding\CLIPS001\AA0068\AA006802.MXF" at frame 16339. Frame 16316 was substituted.
I had several frames substituted.
I tried both the Mercury Playback Engine GPU acceleration and I also tried the software only version.
The original footage is;
MXF File details:
Wrapper type: MXF OP1a (type: SingleItem SinglePackage MultiTrack Stream Internal)
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I was able to export the timeline to an avi file from Pro CC 2014. But P Pro told me that the export had failed. When I checked the folder though the avi file was there.
I am running Windows 7 home premium.
I need to make a DVD of this footage. And would prefer not to reformat the avi file I created. Thanks in advance.

Do you get encode complete with Errors or are you getting encode failed (no encoded file)? The reason frames were substituted is because the source file had errors or other problems. So during import, PPro and AME substitute bad frame with adjacent good frame and continue to import. But if there are way too many bad errors and source is too corrupted, it may not be able to import it correctly and won't be able to export. so let us know if you get exported file and you are just curious what the error message was or if you don't get encoded files going to MPEG2-DVD at all.

Slow rendering from DVCPro-HD to MPEG2-DVD?

I have a home built PC with a quadcore 9450 chip, 8GB ram, Vista-64 Business, Mercury rendering (GTX460) - so it's not a particularly slow machine. My current project is 2 hours, 45 minutes long, shot on DVC-Pro HD 720-30P. It is one continuous take from a concert. I've added chapter points for each song, but otherwise have not edited it (besides mixing the audio levels.) With CS5, to export to MPEG2-DVD (VBR-one pass, quality level 5) takes about 16 to 17 hours. A friend with an i7 computer (which I built for him) says I need to contact Adobe because it should not be taking that long to render. If I import the Premiere sequence directly into Encore, that render takes only a few hours (not sure of the exact time) but the quality sucks. My 17 hour render looks pretty awesome for such a long project. With CS4 and a similar length project, it was around 7 or 8 hours with the same machine. Is something wrong, or is it normal for such long render times?

If I understand it correctly, your time-line is 2:45 (hh:mm) long and takes around 17 hours to export. Correct?
That is pretty good for a Q9450 with 8 GB RAM. Those systems are on average around 15 - 20 times slower than a fast system with MPEG2-DVD export, so it would take a fast system around 1 hour. Now that looks like a perfectly acceptable figure. You have to keep in mind that with hardware MPE you can only compare that with CS4 export times with MRQ (Maximum Render Quality) turned on, and my guess is that you are comparing it to CS4 times WITHOUT MRQ.
Have a look at the PPBM5 Benchmark and notice where the Q9450 systems are. They are all pretty close to the bottom of the list.
Seeing those results, one can argue your statement.
so it's not a particularly slow machine.
Of course much depends on your particular time-line, but if I take my benchmark results (with a lowly i7-920) versus another Q9450 system, I guess that my export times with your time-line would be around 1:06.
Maybe not the reaction you were looking for, but I can't change statistical results.
@ Colin: The OP never said he has MRQ enabled. Where do you get that from? He said he had hardware MPE enabled. And with his timeline, setting MRQ on would not influence his export times, since there is nothing in his single track time-line to profit from MRQ and it is all handled by the MPE engine. At least in this case.

Cs3 export for mpeg2-dvd settings -happy as a clam-

Hi,
Im using CS3...
I want to export from CS3 to mpeg2-dvd preset ( ntsc high quality, which is set to 4 out of 5 on the quality slider setting )
My footage is 720x480i 29.97, 16:9
The dvd will be watched on computer and Digital TV ... so I'm thinking I will convert to progressive.
My bitrates in the preset are:
min: 1.5
avg: 4
max: 7
gop m frames 3
n frames 15
The file size exported is 1.4 gig. It looks OK but not great compared to timeline playback. I've been looking at my notes ---about making exports----but I am so happy ( happy as a clam ! ) ...that I even managed to get a 51 minute story out of this source material ( walking and walking and walking , long story..., not to mention probs with the continuity ).... as I was saying, I am so happy with the product--- I was thinking maybe there's some good advice re: export while I go get some beer to celebrate !
..... I was wondering if you all might have some suggestions for changing my bitrate settings to give me a better quality export....and I will then burn a DVD someday with that exported file.
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Hi ,
Thanks Bill..yes, I've looked at those threads, those guys are incredibly
cool...very knowledgeable....
Oddly enough a lot of what they know has come from experimenting and "trial
and error" type stuff....or else is wouldn't be as original and good as it
is.
I admire that.
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a few times ...see how it goes...
You see, at the moment I am just doing the video, no stills ( no slide show)
and no music track ...so that will change as I add more stuff....the
bitrates and overall compression.. I do , thanks to all you guys, know that
much...Just thought I would go get some beers and ask for 51 mins for the
preset of mpeg2-dvd- from CS3 might be....what a better rate might be right
off the bat....
No big deal.
You have no idea !!!! I am sure happy clams make everything better, whether
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Failure with mpeg2 dvd

I'm rendering the same sequence of about an hour to different formats mostly hd 1080p h.264 and pal to mpeg2 dvd so encore wont work hard to convert.
last days I cant get the mpeg 2 dvd to render, I keep getting errors/failure.if I render just mpeg2 it renders perferct.
so until I could ditch the DVD for good I realy need the AME queue with mpeg2 dvd for my workflow.
I hav'nt checked it but I'm sure it will export mpeg2 dvd directly from PP

the settings are done in PP
by the way if I switch to mercury engine softwere only it renderes but very
very slow
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Exporting audio and video together for Mpeg2 dvd

Hi, I'm trying to export audio and video together for Mpeg2 dvd.. I changed multiplexing to DVD but is still exporting seperately is there something im missing? thanksa

To add, with Multiplexing set to NONE, check what the Audio format is set to. If "PCM", this is an uncompressed .wav file and will result in export of .m2v video and .wav audio (I think Mac uses .aif) and use "Import as Timeline" in Encore for both clips at once. Encore will automatically transcode the audio to Dolby AC-3, do NOT mess with settings in Encore, defaults are correct. If you have CS6, then in AME audio settings, there is an option for Dolby and you can use that to create the .ac3 audio and then Encore does NOT do any transcoding to audio or video. Note that older versions will also show "Dolby" but that is a free trial of a surround encoder, not the same. You just want the stereo option available in CS6, or use PCM option is fine
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Quality issues w export to MPEG2-DVD

I'm using CS4, creating moving still images, some directly in the timeline and some from After Effects. The pictures (imported at resolutions above the timeline SD widescreen rate and then scaled down) in the timeline in the Program box and on my separate monitor (through Matrox breakout box) look clear and sharp. However the DVD created comes out noticably softer (like it's slightly out of focus).
To create the DVD file I use File/Export/Media; then in Media Encoder I set :
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     Bitrate Encoding: CBR
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To compare the original timeline to the DVD file, I imported the resulting MPEG2 file and added it to a video track above the original picture video track, so I could toggle between the two to compare them.
Am I missing something here? I would really like to get a DVD to look as good as the Premiere timeline.

A lot depends on the source material here - how much motion content, etc. There are a lot of articles and tutorials on encoding as it is still somewhat of an art form.
Some thoughts or ideas for you to consider:
Consider using VBR (Variable Bit Rate) which will use your data rate more effectively in some cases
use two pass CBR (or 2-pass VBR). This will give it extra quality by looking at it twice. It will take longer to encode.
Look at the output preview tab when in the export media to view what a frame would look like (sometimes it helps)
Render short segments of test media to help you find the best settings for your source material.
You might consider a 3rd party encoding program if you really need that extra 10% - Sorenson Squeeze and On2's Flix are both good products. Other guys here will chime in with some inexpensive alternatives - maybe VisualHub.
MPEG2 breaks down most when you have high motion content. things like a wide shot of a tree with the wind blowing through it drives MPEG2 crazy.
Hope this helps,
Dennis

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When I export my video in Premiere CS6 as MPEG2-DVD it says the file size is 1086 MB but when I go to were I saved the video it is 2.60 GB how can I reduce the file size when exporting?

Lower the bitrate.

Trial version of Pre 5.5 doesnt have Mpeg2-dvd... why?

Hello, I've been using various editing software for a while making silly home movies and the like but I was looking to get some real clout behind me and push for a job in editing or maybe start up editing old home movies. I've used adobe premiere in college and was looking to buy it so I downloaded a trial version to see whats what. I've read a few tutorials and wanted to publish a DVD to see what the quality compares to but after capturing my footage I found that I was missing a few codecs one of them being the MPEG2-DVD. The funny thing is that the trial version specifically states that it comes with this codec. I'm running windows 7 home prem, with an asus M4a88T-usb3 motherboard and a 6x speed AMD 2.4 processor. I'm ok with computers but I'm wondering if there's a problem with Windows 7 and this codec.
Is there any way of updating this before the trial runs out?
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Hi,
I have this and Mpeg2-DVD option is available in CS5.5 trial, the only possible difference that can be is I have CS5 Serialised version installed my my machine..
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Premiere Pro CC - MPEG2-DVD export issues

I have two projects that I am attempting to export using MPEG2-DVD, both exports begin to playback correctly but about half way through the video begins cutting out, flashing white and and green, and then cuts to completely green. Also the sequence length is 25:18, and after export it is 18:05. Export preset for MPEG2-DVD was NTSC 23.976p Wide, nothing else changed. I also tried exporting with Media Encoder, with the same results.
Video was shot with Canon DSLR and GoPro at 24p. Project is to 23.976fps. Video effects added in sequence are Warp Stabilizer, Lumetri looks, Brightness & Contrast, and Three-Way Color Corrector. I disabled all effects, exported with same settings as before, video was at the same shortened length, but the white and green coloring is gone.
Any ideas of why the video effects might be distorting the color? And why the time is dropping from 25:18 to 18:05?
PC info:
OS Name
Microsoft Windows 7 Professional
Version
6.1.7601 Service Pack 1 Build 7601
Processor
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3770K CPU @ 3.50GHz, 3501 Mhz, 4 Core(s), 8 Logical Processor(s)
Installed Physical Memory (RAM)
16.0 GB
Graphics
AMD Radeon HD 7870
Driver Version
12.104.0.0
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Premiere Pro CC 7.0.1 (105)
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Any luck getting the green and white lines corrected? We broadcast on a local cable channel and our inserter requires MPEG-2 format. When we export in MPEG-2 format from Premier Pro though we get the green and white lines when broadcasting. Right now we're having to export it in a different format, and then use a separate program to convert it to MPEG-2.

MPEG2 encoding fails, but MPEG2 DVD and MPEG2 Blu-ray works

Hey friends,
Every time I try to export with the standalone MPEG2 format option in Premiere Pro CS4 the file comes out empty (0 bytes) and both Windows Media Player 11 and Adobe Encore 4.0.1 say that my machine lacks the necessary codec to play the file (although, I'm thinking that this message is popping up really just because the file is empty/corrupted. I'm running on Vista SP1). Nevertheless, if I export to the MPEG2 Blu-Ray format with not too dissimilar values, everything works fine. The MPEG2 DVD format also works, granted that's lower bitrate and resolution. So, what gives? Could it have something to do with the audio?
My source files are NTSC 29.97fps HDV 1080i .mpeg files, captured from DV tape.
Here are the settings I'm using with the regular MPEG2 encoding (which fails as mentioned):
NTSC, 1440x1080i, 29.97fps, 18.50 max Mbps, 48kHz MPEG audio, which gives me a final file extension of .mpg
And the settings for the MPEG2 Blu-Ray encoding (which works perfectly):
NTSC, 1440x1080i, 29.97fps, 30.00 max Mbps, 48kHZ PCM audio, which gives me a final file extension of .m2v with a separate .wav audio file
Anyway, any help would be appreciated. Did I just completely miss the boat on some well known MPEG2 audio encoding issue or something?
Oh, and my system is Core 2 Duo 3.33 Ghz 4 gigs of ram gigantic harddrive, etc. I'm fairly certain this isn't a hardware issue. The source files playback without hesitation and the rendering time is not overly long.

Since the destination is DVD, don't waste the time or resources to encode at HDV frame sizes. It will just have to be encoded again so that it will fit the standard def DVD frame size. Re-transcoding will significantly reduce final quality.
NTSC DVD:
720x480 with a PAR of 0.9
29.97 fps
"Best Practices" would dictate elementary (separate) video and audio streams (.m2v and .wav). Avoid multiplexed .mpg files.
"Easiest Practices" would dictate exporting from Premiere as an .avi file and letting Encore handle the transcoding automatically.

MPEG2- DVD missing audio

I recently exported a project in MPEG2-DVD and played it from my desktop before burning to a disc. There is no audio in the export. What did I do wrong, and how do I best export this 52 minute project to disc keeping HD resolution and audio? Is there a better codec to use?

Stan,
Thanks for your advice - I tried exporting the file with H.264 as you suggested and it worked perfectly.
The next problem was trying to download the 8GB file onto a flashdrive which gave me error messages of not being able to handle a file of that size. Research on he web and I figured out how to reformat the drive from fat32 to ntsl.
Again, thanks for the help. I'm going to revisit Lynda.com on exporting and formats!
Ted
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Unable to export to MPEG2-DVD! Very weird situation .. Please Help!

Hi Folks,
I've been using Pro for years.
Currently using CS6 - a fresh install from the cloud as of a couple days ago.
So, I have a project ready for DVD.
File / Export Media .. this brings up the Export Settings.
I choose MPEG2-DVD as the Format with Match Source Attributes as the Preset, then hit Queue.
Normally, this would queue the export in Adobe Media Encoder as .m2v but for some unexplicable reason - this isn't occuring.
Instead, Adobe Media Encoder drops the MPEG2-DVD format and replaces with the AAC Audio format!?
What the?
Am I losing the plot? Have I missed something?
File / Export Media / Format MPEG2-DVD = .aac file (only) in Adobe Media Encoder??

Thank you Ann.
Turns out I had missed an update for Adobe Media Encoder in the Adobe Application Manager.
I had installed the software yesterday and so I assumed I had the latest version. I was wrong.

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