MRP and Materials provided to Vendor

Can you please help with the following:
SAP 4.7, where a material component is issued to a vendor as part of the subcontracting process, MRP will re-order additional stock, if levels drop below the re-order point, the system does not take materials provided to vendor into consideration. Is there a configuration setting that will take into consideration the quantity provided to the vendor as available stock when running MRP and therefore not generate an order until the material componenents are consumed and the goods receipt for the subcontract item carried out.
Thank you

Hi,
Please look at this SAP note: 170597
Regards,
Mario

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you can deal it with third party scenario.
THIRD PARTY SCENARIO
In third-party order processing, your company does not deliver the items requested by a customer. Instead, you pass the order along to a third-party vendor who then ships the goods directly to the customer and bills you. A sales order may consist partly or wholly of third-party items. Occasionally, you may need to let a vendor deliver items you would normally deliver yourself.
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Goods receipt will be posted when ever the vendor ships the goods to our customer.
We will do this transaction in SAP using MIGO.
Invoice receipt is done when the Vendor sends us the invoice.. ( I.e Billing ).
It can be done using MIRO.
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Customize the third party sales in summary:
Prerequisites for 3rd party sales,
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purchasing group,
assign the Purchase org to company code
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should not maintain the stock in material, it should be trading goods,
1. Create Vendor XK01
2. Create Material u2013 Material Type as "Trading Goods". Item category group as "BANS".
3. Assign Item Category TAS to Order type that you are going to use.
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5. With reference to SO a PO is created (ME21N). The company raises PO to the vendor.
6. Vendor delivers the goods and raises bill to company. MM receives the invoice MIRO
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Third party order processing is as follows:
Assume three companies X, Y and Z
X - The company,
y - The customer
Z - Vendor
When ever X gets a PO from Y to supply some goods, X has an option of either manufacturing those goods or procuring those goods.
If he is procuring the goods, there are two methods that are generally followed:
Method 1) After receiving the PO from Y, X creates a sales order against Y.
Now at the same time he also creates a PO to a vendor Z to produce the goods
Z produces the goods and supplies to X
X receives the goods from Z
Then X delivers the same goods to Y.
After that X invoices Y and Z invoices X.
Note : Here there is no direct/ Indirect relation between Z and Y.
This process is known as Trading Process. and the Material here is created with Material type HAWA.
The other method is a Third party order processing method:
Here the glaring difference is that instead of Z supplying the material to X and X in turn supplying the same material to Y.
X authorizes Z to supply the material to Y on his behalf and notify him once the delivery is complete.
Now Z supplies the material to Y and acknowledges the same to X.
Z will send a copy of delivery acknowledgement and invoice to X.
After receiving the delivery confirmation and invoice from Z, X has to verify the invoice and this process is known as invoice verification and is done in SAP through Tcode MIRO.
The next step for X is to create an invoice and submit to Y
Only after the invoice verification document is posted then only X can create an invoice for Y.
This is the business flow that is followed for third party order configuration.
There are few steps that have to be configured to enable the system to function as mentioned above.
Step1)
If you are always following a third party process for a material then you have to create the material using item category group BANS.
The procurement type should be marked as External procurement (F) in MRP 2 view of the material master record.
if you are not always allowing third party order processing then u can create a material master record with item category group as NORM and the procurement type should be marked as ( X) meaning both types of procurement ( in house manufacturing and external procurement).
Step 2)
the item category in the order should be manually changed as TAS.
For that you need to configure the item category determination
Order type + item cat Group + Usage + High level = Item cat + Manual item cat
OR + NORM + + = TAN + TAS
OR + BANS + + = TAS
Step 3)
make sure that during the item category configuration for TAS you need to mark relevant for billing indicator as F
step 4)
The schedule line category for this type should be CS.
make sure that you mark subsequent type as NB - purchase requisition in this schedule line category as this will trigger the purchase requisition order immediately after the creation of the sales order and the PO to vendor is created against this purchase requisition.
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Warehosue Management has nothing to do with subcontracting.
I mean the stock provided to sc-vendor leaves your SLoc via mvt 541 and gets to vendor's special stock, that is identified by 'O'+vendorID.
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Edited by: Csaba Szommer on Aug 27, 2008 10:02 PM
Edited by: Csaba Szommer on Aug 27, 2008 10:03 PM

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After posting the Goods issue to subcontract P.O through the ME2O, the material document couldn't be printed.
Involved movement type 541 - O (parts provided to vendor).
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Dear Forum,
We have a problem with the following scenario:
We use Process Orders to manage our Subcontracting process. This is standard SAP, where the Operation is defined as 'external', and this works fine.
The scenario which we can not seem to be able to work is the following:
When executing batch determination for the component(s) which are batch relevant, the system does not show the batch stocks which are already at the subcontractor, i.e. Special Stock 'O' stock provided to vendor.
This is strange, because:
- In the availability check the flag 'W/o subcontracting' is not set.
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Hi Mark,
As I understand you determine the batches in the process order.
From SAP point of view it means that you determine the stock which is to be provided to the vendor. Components with batches are copied into the PO when it is created from the PurReq and system will use this stock (batches) automatically when you execute MB1B541PO reference.
Later, when you do the GR against this PO, the same batch(es) will appear automatically for components-to-be-consumed (by mvt 543).
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp60_sp/helpdata/en/8b/55a026995011d195a2080009c17b92/frameset.htm
So, SAP's concept is that the batches which are determined in the order are those batches which are to be sent to the vendor - these batches will be posted from your storage location to the subcontractor. Stock in special stock segement "O" ar at the sc-vendor.
As per my best knowledge there's no solution in standard system for that if you want to determine such batches in the order which are located at the subcontractor...
Regards,
Csaba
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