MRP: Firm Orders and Time Fence Control

Hi,
We have a business requirement where we have Firm Purchase Orders and WIP jobs outside the planning time fence (PTF). We then have new demand for the item coming from SO. When we run MRP, the system is extending the planning time fence up to the Need by date of the latest PO so this means there will be no stock to cover the new demand and we are in backorder!
Example:
Item: ABC
Item Leadtime: 5 days
PTF: 5 days
Sysdate : 09-Feb-2009
Firm Purchase Order: 20-Mar-2009 (outside the PTF for the item)
WIP job demand: 20-Mar-2009
New SO 5000001252 with schedule ship date 17-Feb-2009
To cover the demand for SO 5000001252 MRP is suggesting a new planned order for 20-Mar-2009.
Plan option:
Profile MRP:Firm Planned Order Time Fence = No
Overwrite = None
Append Planned Orders = Yes
Planning Time Fence Control = Yes
Has anybody come across this scenario? How can we force MRP to suggest a Planned Order for the 17-Feb-2009?
thanks

Many thanks for the quick reply!
We have MRP:Create Time fence = Yes
We want time fence except for firm orders. My understanding from reading the documentation is Firm orders are those MRP will not touch. There is no mention of extending the PTF. Basically in our business we are trying to peg a PO to a WIP. Is there another way of achieving this?
Once again thanks and I will do some tests by setting MRP:Create Time fence = No

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Hi,
We have a business requirement where we have Firm Purchase Orders and WIP jobs outside the planning time fence (PTF). We then have new demand for the item coming from SO. When we run MRP, the system is extending the planning time fence up to the Need by date of the latest PO so this means there will be no stock to cover the new demand and we are in backorder!
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Can the above requirement be achieved with ASCP?
thanks

Hi
I guess planning is creating time fence on its own called the natrual time fence. It would take the firm supply and create a timefence based on its date until creating new pl order within that period.
Please set profile MRP:Create Time fence to No and recheck
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Hi,
Would you like to tell me your Excel version number (Go to Account>About Excel). I tested in my version :15.0.4569.1504 and the Date and Time Picker Control 6.0 still could be used.
Then,>> My PC is 64 bit. I believe my version of Office is also 64 bit.<< Office 2013 32 bit also could be installed in 64bit operation system. We could check it with Account>About Excel.
Next, as you said >>After I exited 'Design Mode,' it started working again. I tested it, along with my 'Clear Form' button multiple times. It seemed to be working fine. I closed the document and reopened it. Enabled Macros.
When I tried to use it after reopen, it doesn't work again.<<
I recommend we recreate a new blank Excel file and insert the Date and Time Picker Control 6.0 to test.
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https://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/office/en-US/36f83f24-cd76-4f8e-aa7b-5f166666e7d3/excel-2013-popup-calendar
https://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/91cf3127-70fe-4726-8a27-31b8964430c5/registering-mscomct2ocx-in-64-bit-windows-7?forum=sbappdev
If it works well, I suppose this issue is related to macros. I recommend you post the question to MSDN forum to debug them:
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Hi,
Would you like to tell me your Excel version number (Go to Account>About Excel). I tested in my version :15.0.4569.1504 and the Date and Time Picker Control 6.0 still could be used.
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When I tried to use it after reopen, it doesn't work again.<<
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https://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/office/en-US/36f83f24-cd76-4f8e-aa7b-5f166666e7d3/excel-2013-popup-calendar
https://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/91cf3127-70fe-4726-8a27-31b8964430c5/registering-mscomct2ocx-in-64-bit-windows-7?forum=sbappdev
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Hi gurus,
My business scenario is to firm my planning shop flloor during 60 days.
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I have a question about the firmming logic of planning time fence, based on the test of mine, the firmming date will consider the available date.
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It depends on the MRP type selected. and the Firming type maintained in the MRP type.
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Procurement proposals within the planning time fence are not firmed automatically. All procurement proposals required to cover the requirements are moved to the end of the planning time fence.
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No procurement proposals are created automatically within the planning time fence; that is, the shortage situation is not adjusted within the planning time fence.
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But when i change the lot size to =ZC(3 Months lot size) keeping the rest all same as above.
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>
Praveen Arvapalli wrote:
> Hi,
>
> MRP type=P3, Planning time fence=28 days, lot sizs=EX and all 28 days are working days.
>
> so today =05/112009 and i check the MD04 End of planning time fence is 03/12/2009
>
> But when i change the lot size to =ZC(3 Months lot size) keeping the rest all same as above.
>
> and when i check MD04 The planning time fence moved to 01/01/2010
>
> What should be done to keep the planning time fence as 03/12/2009 and i don not want to change either MRP Type or lot size
>
>
>
> Regards
> Praveen
Praveen,
I think your Lotsize Indicator is based on Planning Calendar. Please check the period definations of the planning calendar assigned to the material in the MRP2 view.
Regards,
Prasobh

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If the supply proposals are not firmed, then the next MRP run at plant level will clear all the planned orders / purchase requisitions which are not needed.
Planning mode with 1 should be more than enough to take care of that.
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