Msi Neo2 Kingston HyperX PC3200 BH5 Any Good ?

Hi Guys
Anyone using 2x256mb Kingston HyperX Pc3200 Bh5 on the neo2?
curious at what fsb/timings u can run.
and if 3.1-> V would help.
thinking of buying a pair but would be great seeing some results first.
thx in advance.

nice thread crap...
i ordered the exact ram you are talking about, and it is a STEAL at its current price at outpost.com. ill be receiving my sticks tomorrow, so ill have to wait and see what they can do over the weekend.
however, its been shown that BH-5 memory performs at its best at 3V+, and this board can only do 2.85v. so, it remains to be see what can be achieved. i hope a BIOS update will bump up the voltage.
go ahead and get it. its a great deal at that price.

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Interestingly enough I have exactly the opposit issue.
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I updated to 3.2 and now it only detects 1/2 my memory. I tried all the slot swaping same issue.
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Of course when first building new system I stuck both modules into dimms 1&2 for dual channel. Didn't work, dlink LED says bad memory or user installed error. I pull out the second stick and it then posts fine with 1 stick in dimm1. Install windows, etc and come back to the dual channel problem. Tried runnings sticks in: dimm1&2, dimm3&4, dimm1&3 none worked, all had same error as before and no post.
So I make note of which stick is which, we will say stick A is the one system booted fine with to begin with in dimm1....I tried taking it out and putting stick B in the same exact dimm1, and I got memory error on dlink. Tried running stick B in dimm3 and memory error again. Again tried dimm1&2, 3&4, 1&3 switching sticks A and B so that I hit every possible combination.
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I already know these run at 2.5-3-3-8 timings instead of advertised 2-3-2-6, but changing the timings has had no affect on stick B working in this computer. Neither has the voltage.
I just want dual channel, ddr400 speed, whatever latencies, and 1T. I don't see how it could be the cpu's memory controller, or the motherboard since one stick works fine in slots the other *MATCHED* stick doesn't! Time to overnight advance RMA me a new pair.

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Hello.
I have a MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum board (BIOS 1.3) with AMD 64 3000+ 939 CPU.
I am trying to run this with 2 Kingston HyperX PC3200 512MB memory (KHX3200ULK2/1G). This is the latest "Ultra-low Latency" memory from Kingston.
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(I also get errors if I run this memory on "Auto" setting in BIOS)
I CAN run 2 sticks of Crucial PC3200 512MB (regular, not Ballistix) at standard settings in dual-channel with no errors.
Has anyone got this memory to work on this board in dual-channel mode? If so, how? At what timings?
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In the meantime...
Try loosening up the memory timings first, start with 2-2-2-8 thru 2-2-2-11
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Why would the timings work when in single channel mode, but not in dual channel, when the Crucial memory works fine in dual channel at the same timings used in single channel?
On a side note, the Kingston pair was purchased together in a matched set, while the 2 Crucial sticks (actually the memory from my system) were bought seperately over a month apart.
The timings that RZT tried are the exact ones Kingston specifies for that model, there should be NO reason whatsoever they wouldn't work at those timings, dual or single channel.
Please correct me if I am wrong...
First of all, I said "in the meantime," meaning until someone else came up with a better answer. If I have problems with memory, regardless of what the manufacturer says' I hunt for a sweetspot (if there is one).
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Why would the timings work when in single channel mode, but not in dual channel, when the Crucial memory works fine in dual channel at the same timings used in single channel?
That's like trying to compare apples to oranges. Two different manufacturers and likely different chips onboard, not to mention likely different PCB design.
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That is why you might see very similar systems, and one works with the same ram, and the other doesn't. It's called parametric differences. In short, one stick my be at the upper end of the spec and the other stick may be at the lower end. Then, throw in the motherboard, and the CPU, (now with the onboard memory controller) while we're at it, and you have a real touchy situation. There is little room for lower quality. That is why matched pairs exist. Doesn't mean it's mandatory, however.
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On a side note, the Kingston pair was purchased together in a matched set, while the 2 Crucial sticks (actually the memory from my system) were bought seperately over a month apart.
I take it you know this person, otherwise this is not making sense or you are a pretty slick hijacker
Matched set can still be flawed, I get em from the best once in a while. It may not be the RAM at all. Only way to tell for sure is to try it on another identical system or try another pair that passes muster in another identical system. All this speculating is useless unless you've exhausted all possibilities.
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The timings that RZT tried are the exact ones Kingston specifies for that model, there should be NO reason whatsoever they wouldn't work at those timings, dual or single channel.
Please correct me if I am wrong...
Not wrong, maybe a little overoptimistic. Some situations warrant different measures. It's not that black and white, nor is it written in stone. At this point it only indicates there is indeed a problem, where it lies, would be better off using a dartboard to guess at this point.

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Hi,
The MSI Neo2-FR manual on page 2-16 list the pin assignments for the front panel switches and LEDs.
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MOVED: help/suggestions: MSI NF980-G65 + Kingston HyperX 1600

This topic has been moved to Overclockers & Modding Corner.
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=136364.0

Quote from: ericmac017 on 11-March-10, 10:26:59
Hey everyone, so I have a NF980-G65 mobo with the kingston hyperx mem (KHX1600C8D3K2/4GX) and I'm trying to find stable clocks for the ram. Also I'm runnin an AMD Phenom II 955 @ 3.8ghz. Anyways take a look at my picture here..
My question is, are my timings acceptable here for stability purposes? I read in another forum that the Phenom II's run better with lower "tighter" timings. However as you can see in my pic I have a LinX stress test results showing it passed all 20 loops with ALL memory selected @ timings of 8-8-8-24 @ 1.67V. If I pass this test, does this mean I'm very stable? Also, if someone else has this mobo with this ram, have you overclocked any higher? Thanks everyone
Too much voltage brother
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My question is, are my timings acceptable here for stability purposes? I read in another forum that the Phenom II's run better with lower "tighter" timings. However as you can see in my pic I have a LinX stress test results showing it passed all 20 loops with ALL memory selected @ timings of 8-8-8-24 @ 1.67V. If I pass this test, does this mean I'm very stable? Also, if someone else has this mobo with this ram, have you overclocked any higher? Thanks everyone

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Too much voltage brother
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Remember Cool 1st...OC Later.

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Nope.. And I hardly believe it's a software issue. Will try a fresh install of XP today, nut the reason of such strange behaviour escapes me :] Cmon people, any ideas ?
If you problem isn't related to software, then the only other thing that comes to mind is that overclocking is the culprit. I'm not overclocking anything (except my 3d card, and that only slightly) and have no such problems with my K8N Neo2. You describe a strange problem, certainly, and in my own experience such behaviors--system runs great in some normal situtations but in others it doesn't--have always been related to overclocking of some kind. If you aren't overclocking anything then it's probably software induced. Good luck!

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