Multi - cam editing

When choosing camera angles in the multi-camera monitor you have to hit play first. Some instructions tell you to hit the record button instead. what is the difference?

Kevin Monahan wrote:
Cosmosnarf wrote:
You're banned from talking about this? What does that mean? Making too many waves? maybe they shoud fix it instead of banning people who complain?
But does the play button fix this issue Instead of using the record button to make your camera angle changes?
Yes, you don't want to get DMH79 started with this. However, he's not banned, but he did rant in a thread he created and that caused us to lock that post. Then he started a new post on the very same topic, so we locked that one too. He's very passionate about multicamera, and if you are too, I'd make the same suggestion: create a feature request: http://www.adobe.com/go/wish
Basically, you have to tap the 0 key (Record On/Off toggle) if you do not want Premiere Pro to create a new cut back to CAM 1 when pressing the Space Bar (Play/Stop). To me, it's not a huge deal. I'm already used to it (me, a former FCP instructor and on the FCP team at Apple).
That's how our multicamera monitor works right now, and is just different than FCP. I'm fairly certain the workflow won't be changed between now and our next version, so make your request now.
I can confirm that the toggle works in OS X 10.6, OS X 10.7, and OS X 10.8, so I find it a bit odd that some have reported that with certain versions of OS X, the Record On/Off toggle doesn't work. If the "0" key won't toggle for you, please make a bug report: http://www.adobe.com/go/wish
Hi Kevin!
You are great as always. Sincerely. And thank you for your attention and help. And I promise not to get "started" on this again
You said: "Basically, you have to tap the 0 key (Record On/Off toggle) if you do not want Premiere Pro to create a new cut back to CAM 1 when pressing the Space Bar (Play/Stop)."
That is correct. However, toggling off the record actually is the culprit of the extra/unintended cut and angle change. If it wasn't, I would definitely adapt and work with that. But wherever you toggle off the record is where the infamous unintended cut/angle change is made. I thought maybe it was just me but I had someone test on a PC and it did it there too. I promise not to rant. This is just new information that I felt makes the answer to that thread inaccurate. Yes, technically that "answer" makes it so the stop and pause don't cause the cuts/angle change. BUT wherever you previously toggled off the record you'll have that cut/angle change so there's no way around the issue. With no way around, it can't be called a workaround.
I guess you could call ExactImage's solution above the only "workaround" and just never use the live switching feature. Bummer.
Knowing its not gonna be fixed anytime soon is good to know but sad to hear. Thanks Kevin for that info.
Cosmosnarf, please fill out a "bug"...er, I mean "feature request" (cough, cough) as suggested to have the record toggle not make cuts when stopping.

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Hi, Thanx in advance for your help.
We did a multi-camera shoot of a band. We ran through the set twice with 4 cameras, thats a total of 8 tracks. The 2nd run through for the stationary camera on the drummer can be dropped to reduce the count to 7. Hopefully the timing on the first and second set will the same. It should be close as these guys are tight.
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Ok I'm new...so bear with me.
I am editing a basic interview shot on two cameras and cutting away to some still images.
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I am editing a basic interview shot on two cameras and cutting away to some still images.
The rushes are 4 lots of film about 10 mins in length.
I inputted the footage from the two cameras and created a new sequence for each using the multi camera audio synchronisation method (which worked great).
So how do I go about creating my edit? Something tells me I'm going about it in the wrong way.
Do I need to create my edit using single camera shots and then create multi camera sequences for each individual clip? It seems so laborious as its all already synced up for two cameras.
humm, sounds like your 4 lots do not overlap in time, and that there is space between each lot. So would that be 4 multi-camera sequences with the two cameras?
If so, why even multicamera edit that? and just set up to Video tracks, sync the audio and opacity keyframe between the two tracks.
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No audio in multi-cam edit

I finally managed a near perfect sync of my 3 sources and am ready to do the multi-cam edit thing. Except, when I bring the source sequence into the multi-cam sequence and enable the source sequence for multi-cam, there's no audio when i go play it or edit in multi-cam.
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I am at present trying out Premeire CC, my workflow is usually a minimum of a 2 camera shoot for weddings, what I am trying todo in CC is to try and sync all the clips together for a multi cam sequence ready to edit.
I have followed various options fropm Adobe TV and some you tube videos with no luck.
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