Multiple MIDI Command Playlists

I'm looking to control my guitar effects, audio back tracks, and eventually lights with logic pro. I've seen how to write midi data and automate it, but that is just for one song. How would I have access to multiple files/songs of midi automation in a live setup. On triggering end, I would have a midi foot switch with about 3 buttons and program them 1: previous song 2: play song 3: next song. But how would I set that up in Logic to be able to use a midi controller to scroll through multiple Midi automation files? Is there a way to make a playlist of midi/audio tracks in one logic file?
Message was edited by: Nick727

well, ive done that already.. But you see, Im setting up a internet radio station using automator to change playlists automaticly.. So I want a few different party shuffle playlists already set up so i can just trigger those at a sheduled time.
Maybe there is a way to switch the party shuffle input playlist within automator??

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Edited by: Tekker on Nov 21, 2010 5:45 PM

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-tkr

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