Need to understand when redo log files content is wrote to datafiles
Hi all
I have a question about the time when redo log files are wrote to the datafiles
supposing that the database is in NOARCHIVELOG mode, and all redo log files are filled, the official oracle database documentation says that: *a filled redo log file is available
after the changes recorded in it have been written to the datafiles* witch mean that we just need to have all the redo log files filled to "*commit*" changes to the database
Thanks for help
Edited by: rachid on Sep 26, 2012 5:05 PM
rachid wrote:
the official oracle database documentation says that: a filled redo log file is available after the changes recorded in it have been written to the datafiles It helps if you include a URL to the page where you found this quote (if you were using the online html manuals).
The wording is poor and should be modified to something like:
<blockquote>
+"a filled online redo log file is available for re-use after all the data blocks that have been changed by change vectors recorded in the log file have been written to the data files"+
</blockquote>
Remember if a data block that is NOT an undo block has been changed by a transaction, then an UNDO block has been changed at the same time, and both change vectors will be in the redo log file. The redo log file cannot, therefore, be re-used until the data block and the associated UNDO block have been written to disc. The change to the data block can thus be rolled back (uncommitted changes can be written to data files) because the UNDO is also available on disc if needed.
If you find the manuals too fragmented to follow you may find that my book, Oracle Core, offers a narrative description that is easier to comprehend.
Regards
Jonathan Lewis
http://jonathanlewis.wordpress.com
Author: <b><em>Oracle Core</em></b>
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SQL>finally remove allowresetlogs_corruption=true parameter from pfile. -
Hi,
Can anyone tell me what's the real difference between a backup file and a redo log file/archived redo log file and the scenarios (examples) when each of them can be used (for example, "......") ? Both are used for database/instance recovery. I have read the concepts of there 2 terms, but I need some additional information about the difference.
Thanks!Roger25 wrote:
What i still don't understand is how redo mechanism works; I know, redo logs records changes made to the database and it's used to re-do informations in case of a system failure/crash, for example. Ok, let's say I have a huge update, but when the system crash has occured, the transaction is neither comitted, nor rolled back. Then, how this redo is useful? If a system crash occur, all those updates aren't rolled back automatically? So the database state is as before executing that huge update? So in this case, 'what to redo'?No, with the system's crash, the transaction never gets a chance to get committed (and even rolled back) because a commit is only supposed to happen if there is an explicit or implicit commit statement is issued. Now, for the redo , with the statement, a commit marker is entered at the end of the redo stream of that transaction denoting that it's finally over now and for the corresponding transaction, the status is cleared from the transaction table that's stored in the Undo segment in which the Undo information of that transaction is stored. If you have given a huge update, the redo would be very highly required as you should be knowing that it's not all the time that the dirty buffers that are written to the data files unlikely the redo log files which are written every 3 econds. This means, there is a very fair chance that many changes have yet not even propagated to the data files for which the change vectors are now already there in the redo log files. Now, for the sake of clarity, assume that this transaction was actually committed! So now, without those changes be applied to the data files how Oracle can actually show the committed reults when the database next time would be opened? For this purpose, the redo change vectors are required. And for the uncommitted transactions , the applcation of the redo change vectors would keep on updating the Checkpoint numbers of the data files and would eventually get them synched with the control file and redo log files, without which the database would never be opened.
HTH
Aman.... -
Redo log file corupted, database not getting open
I am Oracle Funda-1 student.
Have install standard Oracle 9I on Windows XP pro service pack 2.
I made some changes in sample table & given commit. So log buffer will flush to redo log file.
Then I open current redo log file from OS & selected all junk characters [select all] & deleted same. Save the file. Causing redo file size 0KB.
Then made more changes to table & issue commit. no errors ! every thing working file.
Even chked V$log & V$logfile.
Again I open current redo log file from OS & selected all junk characters [ select all ] & deleted same. Save the file. Causing redo file size 0KB.
Then issue manual log switch. Alter system switch logfile
I got disconnected from database & database was close.
When I reconnected & try to open database in normal mode. Gave error saying redolog_1.log is corrupted & needed for recovery.
Now not even allowing me clear redo group 1. with alter database clear logfile group 1. as database is not coming to open stage.
just able to mount the database. with error rdolog_1 corrupted.
Wasn't oracle suppose to be halted when very 1st time I corrupted redo log file.
Why it disconnected me & got close.
When then one use alter database clear logfile group 1.I may try this ALTER DATABASE OPEN RESETLOGS;
As no backup & not multiplex.
Still looking for explanation why database got close down instead of getting halt.
I have found one more status in V$log, which is not given in Oracle university book or online document.
INVALIDATED
Which come as a result when oracle unable to switch to next on line group due to non availability of next group redo log physical file.
SQL> select group#,members,status from V$log;
GROUP# MEMBERS STATUS
1 1 INVALIDATED
2 1 INACTIVE
4 1 UNUSED
As matter of fact, it's only portion of a big
document which happen to cover what you are testing
in detail.
I would invest time to read the document to
understand how things work instead of getting dirty
quick answers. -
What is the difference between undo tablespace and online redo log files.
what is the difference between undo tablespace and online redo log files. I am confused
as per my knowledge undo tablespace is used to store the undo information when a table is being updated so that, just incase we need to rollback a transaction we know what was present in the table earlier.
when a transaction fails the SMON performs the rollback of the data.
This undo data is stored in the undo tablespace and read consistency if any is enforced.
is my understanding till here correct?
Now, can this undo data/before image not be stored in the redo log buffer and online redolog files?
can redo-log files not store this information?
in fact, is it that when undo tablespaces exist in a database, the undo data/before image is stored in both the undo tablespace and also the redo log files?
kindly clarify my doubt.
thank you.This question has been asked many times before. The answer is always the same.
Yes, redo contains the before image of data (and the after-image). Therefore, it **COULD** be used to roll back a transaction.
BUT... Redo is written sequentially. Using it to rollback your transaction would involve reading through all the redo written by maybe thousands of other people. It would be painfully slow.
Your transaction is, however, directly linked to just the UNDO that it generates (which is JUST the before image of the data). So, your undo is your undo and doesn't share space with anyone else's undo. Therefore, using it to roll back YOUR transaction is fast.
The fact that undo is only the before image of the data also makes it faster than wading through a sea of before and AFTER images as you'd find in redo. About twice as fast, in fact, since there's half the data. Roughly.
Redo also gets written and flushed to disk whenever there's a commit, 3 seconds are up or too much (1MB, actually) redo gets generated between flushes caused by other factors. Your redo gets flushed when those things happen, even if you haven't actually committed your transaction. And redo logs recycle themselves, meaning that your redo -even if your transaction hasn't been committed yet- can be over-written by later transactions. Try rolling back when that's happened, if redo was the source of your rollback data!
Undo, however, cannot be over-written if the transaction has not been committed. Ever. If you don't commit for three years, there will be three years' undo stored in your database (assuming you had the space, of course!).
I could go on, but that will do. Redo is there fore RECOVERY, after catastrophe. Undo is there for read-consistency (and the occasional change of mind). Two different functions. Two different mechanisms. Each one highly tuned to doing what it does, why it does it, most efficiently and effectively. -
How to recover from one corrupted redo log file in NOARCHIVE mode?
Oracle 10.2.1.
The redo log file was corrupted and Oracle can't work.
When I use STARTUP mount, I got no error msg.
SQL> startup mount
ORACLE instance started.
Total System Global Area 1652555776 bytes
Fixed Size 1251680 bytes
Variable Size 301991584 bytes
Database Buffers 1342177280 bytes
Redo Buffers 7135232 bytes
Database mounted.
But I have some applications which are depended on Oracle can't be started.
So, I tried STARTUP open. But I got error msg.
SQL> startup open
ORACLE instance started.
Total System Global Area 1652555776 bytes
Fixed Size 1251680 bytes
Variable Size 301991584 bytes
Database Buffers 1342177280 bytes
Redo Buffers 7135232 bytes
Database mounted.
ORA-00368: checksum error in redo log block
ORA-00353: log corruption near block 497019 change 42069302 time 11/07/2007
23:43:09
ORA-00312: online log 4 thread 1:
'G:\ORACLE\PRODUCT\10.2.0\ORADATA\NMDATA\REDO04.LOG'
So, how can I restore and recover my database?
If use RMAN, how to do that?
Any help will be appreciated.
Thanks.Hi, Yingkuan,
Thanks for the helps.
Actually, I have 10 redo log files exists. All of them are here.
I tried your suggestion:
alter database clear unarchived logfile group 4;
The error msg I got is the same as before:
SQL> alter database clear unarchived logfile group 4;
alter database clear unarchived logfile group 4
ERROR at line 1:
ORA-01624: log 4 needed for crash recovery of instance nmdata (thread 1)
ORA-00312: online log 4 thread 1:
'G:\ORACLE\PRODUCT\10.2.0\ORADATA\NMDATA\REDO04.LOG'
Compared to losing all the data, it is OK for me lose some of them.
I have more than 1 TB data stored and 99.9% of them are raster images.
The loading of these data were the headache. If I can save them, I can bear the lost.
I want to grasp the last straw.
But I don't know how set the parameter: allowresetlogs_corruption
I got the error msg:
SQL> set allowresetlogs_corruption=true;
SP2-0735: unknown SET option beginning "_allow_res..."
I have run the command:
Recover database until cancel
Alter database open resetlogs
The error msg I got is the following:
SQL> recover database until cancel
ORA-00279: change 41902930 generated at 11/05/2007 22:01:48 needed for thread 1
ORA-00289: suggestion :
D:\ORACLE\PRODUCT\10.2.0\FLASH_RECOVERY_AREA\NMDATA\ARCHIVELOG\2007_11_09\O1_MF_
1_1274_%U_.ARC
ORA-00280: change 41902930 for thread 1 is in sequence #1274
Specify log: {<RET>=suggested | filename | AUTO | CANCEL}
cancel
ORA-01547: warning: RECOVER succeeded but OPEN RESETLOGS would get error below
ORA-01194: file 1 needs more recovery to be consistent
ORA-01110: data file 1: 'D:\ORACLE\PRODUCT\10.2.0\ORADATA\NMDATA\SYSTEM01.DBF'
ORA-01112: media recovery not started
SQL>
From the log file, I got the following:
ALTER DATABASE RECOVER database until cancel
Fri Nov 09 00:12:48 2007
Media Recovery Start
parallel recovery started with 2 processes
ORA-279 signalled during: ALTER DATABASE RECOVER database until cancel ...
Fri Nov 09 00:13:20 2007
ALTER DATABASE RECOVER CANCEL
Fri Nov 09 00:13:21 2007
ORA-1547 signalled during: ALTER DATABASE RECOVER CANCEL ...
Fri Nov 09 00:13:21 2007
ALTER DATABASE RECOVER CANCEL
ORA-1112 signalled during: ALTER DATABASE RECOVER CANCEL ...
Thank you very much. and I am looking forward to your followup input.
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