Nested CSS boxes

Trying to get the hang of this CSS positioning thing...
Need to have a large centered box (main div) with several (2
to 4) small boxes within it. Essentially, the only text in the
first box (main div) is a H2.
I want the "big" box to have a height that will adjust to the
content of the smaller boxes within it. The small boxes will have
several to many lines of text or table data. The content will be
php-extracted from a mysql database, so it will vary in nbr of rows
returned.
Using DW MX 2004. I have the "main1" div, then used the DW
"Draw Layer" for a couple of the boxes. You'll see the in-line CSS
that was created with that... once I figure everything out I'll
move all CSS to the external sheet. Right now it's either in the
page head or in-line with the divs.
My problem is: the main div (Manage Content) is not adjusting
in height to be a background for the divs within it. I read several
suggestions about setting the properties of html and body to 100%
height (that's why it's in the CSS in the head). I thought that if
I postioned the main div as relative, then I can position the
nested divs as absolute off of the main? Doesn't seem to be the
right answer.
Test page:
Test page of
bad divs
Thanks in advance for helping!

You do NOT want to use Layers for this. Since absolutely
positioned page
elements are removed from the normal flow of the page, they
cannot cause
containers to expand. That's why using layers as a page
layout method is so
seriously flawed.
The term "CSS positioning" does not refer to just using
layers. It refers
to the use of CSS to place elements on the page with margins,
paddings,
floats, and occasionally, with positioning, but only
occasionally.
This may help you understand positioning a bit -
There are 4 different types of positioning:
Absolute
Relative
Fixed
Static
Here is a brief explanation of each kind of positioning (with
regard to
placement of elements on the page only)....
Position:absolute (or A/P elements)
This does several things -
1. It 'removes' the element from the flow of the code on
the page so that
it can no longer influence the size or position of any other
page element
(except for those contained within it, of course).
2. The absolutely positioned element takes its position from
the position of
its closest PARENT *positioned* element - in the
absence of any explicitly
positioned parent, this will default to the <body> tag,
which is always
positioned
at 0,0 in the browser viewport.
This means that it doesn't matter where in the HTML code the
layer's code
appears (between <body> and </body>), its
location on the screen will not
change (this assumes that you have not positioned the A/P
element within
a table or another A/P element, of course).
Furthermore, the space in
which
this element would have appeared were it not positioned
is not preserved
on the screen. In other words, absolutely positioned elements
don't take
up any space on the page. In fact, they FLOAT over the page.
Position:relative (or R/P elements)
In contrast to absolute positioning, a relatively positioned
page element is
*not* removed from the flow of the code on the page, so
it will use the
spot
where it would have appeared based on its position in
the code as its
zero point reference. If you then supply top, right,
bottom, or left
positions
to the style for this element, those values will be
used as offsets from
its
zero point.
This means that it DOES matter where in the code the
relatively positioned
element appears (, as it will be positioned in that location
(factoring in
the offsets) on the screen (this is true for any placement in
the code).
Furthermore, the space where this element would have
appeared is
preserved in the display, and can therefore affect the
placement of
succeeding elements. This means that the taller a relatively
positioned element is, the more space it forces on the page.
Position:static
As with relative position, static positions also "go with
the flow". An
element with a static position cannot have values for
offsets (top, right,
left, bottom) or if it has them, they will be ignored. Unless
explicitly
positioned, all div elements default to static positioning.
Position:fixed
A page element with this style will not scroll as the page
content scrolls.
Support for this in elements other than page backgrounds is
quirky
There are several other things you need to know:
1. ANY page element can be positioned - paragraphs, tables,
images, lists,
etc.
2. The <div> tag is a BLOCK level tag. This means that
if it is not
positioned or explicitly styled otherwise, a) it will always
begin on a new
line on the screen, and b) it will always force content to a
new line below
it, and c) it will always take up the entire width of its
container (i.e.,
width:100%).
3. The placement of A/P elements *can* affect the BEHAVIOR of
other
elements
on the page. For example, a 'layer' placed over a hyperlink
will mask that
hyperlink.
You can see a good example of the essential difference
between absolute and
relative positioning here -
http://www.great-web-sights.com/g_layersdemo.asp
You can see a good demonstration of why using layers for a
page layout tool
is dangerous here -
http://www.great-web-sights.com/g_layer-overlap.asp
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"JillTW" <[email protected]> wrote in
message
news:[email protected]...
> Trying to get the hang of this CSS positioning thing...
>
> Need to have a large centered box (main div) with
several (2 to 4) small
> boxes
> within it. Essentially, the only text in the first box
(main div) is a H2.
>
> I want the "big" box to have a height that will adjust
to the content of
> the
> smaller boxes within it. The small boxes will have
several to many lines
> of
> text or table data. The content will be php-extracted
from a mysql
> database, so
> it will vary in nbr of rows returned.
>
> Using DW MX 2004. I have the "main1" div, then used the
DW "Draw Layer"
> for a
> couple of the boxes. You'll see the in-line CSS that was
created with
> that...
> once I figure everything out I'll move all CSS to the
external sheet.
> Right now
> it's either in the page head or in-line with the divs.
>
> My problem is: the main div (Manage Content) is not
adjusting in height to
> be
> a background for the divs within it. I read several
suggestions about
> setting
> the properties of html and body to 100% height (that's
why it's in the CSS
> in
> the head). I thought that if I postioned the main div as
relative, then I
> can
> position the nested divs as absolute off of the main?
Doesn't seem to be
> the
> right answer.
>
> Test page:
>
>
http://www.susanchambersdance.com/cms/test_div.php
>
> Thanks in advance for helping!
>

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