NetBeans or Eclipse

Hi All,
Sorry for my English.....
I want to write a Java application program that interacts with the user via GUI components and will have graphics (2D and maybe 3D - with Java3D of course) and maybe samll database. I wonder what is the best
and robust environment for Java application programming - NetBeans or Eclipse?
Thank you in advance

This type of question is asked daily on here and the answer is always the same.
If you already know NetBeans then stick with NetBeans. If you know Eclipse then use Eclipse. If you know not much about either then use the one whose name you like better. If all else fails throw darts at a board with their names on it and see which one wins.

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atomodachi wrote:
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