Netbeans vs. Eclipse in terms of Support Base

I was hoping to get some opinions from veterans and newbies alike regarding their experiences in terms of support for the two major IDE's: Netbeans and Eclipse. I have started with Netbeans, almost at random, simply because I didn't know which one to pick. After a month or so I find I quite like the interface, and building GUIs is a snap, but I have an extremely hard time getting newbie support for it. There is NO user forum at the netbeans site so new users must subscribe to a mailing list for help. The mailing list is fairly chatty. Busy even. But I personally have had a hard time getting any help from it.
I have no experience with Eclipse but I am willing to switch to it and learn it instead if it has a better support base for new users. However, I took a look at the eclipse site and didn't see much in the way of a forum there either. Do folks here have any opinions or insights they can share? I'd love to read them. Thanks!

ChuckBing wrote:
I believe Eclipse has less support than does NB; other opinions may be different.Which may just mean it doesn't need the level of support NB does :)disclaimer: I don't like either. IntelliJ forever (or VI,depending on context) O:=)
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Sorry for my English.....
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