Network install of ODAC

(cross-post on ODT forum)
Is there any way to install ODAC to a network drive, so that no files reside on the user PC? We are testing Vista on our user PCs, adn woudl like to be able to put ODAC and teh Oracle client on a network drive.
I have tried using the ODAC 11g beta install but this crashes out of the install if I specify a newtork drive as location.
I have tried intslaling the 10g Vista client + 10g ODAC locally, then copying files to network and chaning registry settings. Although ODP assembly loads, it fails on connect with generic Oracle Connection error.
I have spent several days trying to get this to work.
Does anyone have any experience of doing this?
Thanks
Eric

Yes, we do this, albeit with XP rather than Vista. Our 'install' involves granting access to the oracle folder on the network drive, with a drive mapping, and running a .reg (registry entry) file. The registry entries are similar to what you would find with a standard local install, but with the file locations at x:\Oracle\... It's possible that we add the network folder\bin to the path, but I'm not an admin anymore and I don't remember if we do this or not.
Loading the dlls off the network tends to make startup slower but makes administration vastly more simple.
The reg file looks like this;
REGEDIT4
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\ORACLE]
"inst_loc"="C:\\Program Files\\Oracle\\Inventory"
"ORACLE_HOME"="x:\\oracle_920"
"ORACLE_HOME_NAME"="OraHome92"
"API"="x:\\oracle_920\\dbs"
"ORACLE_GROUP_NAME"="Oracle - OraHome92"
"NLS_LANG"="NA"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\ORACLE\ALL_HOMES]
"HOME_COUNTER"="1"
"DEFAULT_HOME"="OraHome92"
"LAST_HOME"="0"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\ORACLE\ALL_HOMES\ID0]
"NAME"="OraHome92"
"PATH"="x:\\oracle_920"
"NLS_LANG"="NA"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\ORACLE\HOME0]
"ID"="0"
"ORACLE_GROUP_NAME"="Oracle - OraHome92"
"ORACLE_HOME_NAME"="OraHome92"
"ORACLE_HOME"="x:\\oracle_920"
"NLS_LANG"="ENGLISH_UNITED KINGDOM.WE8MSWIN1252"
"ORACLE_BUNDLE_NAME"="Enterprise"
"SQLPATH"="x:\\oracle_920\\dbs"
"ORACLE_HOME_KEY"="Software\\ORACLE\\HOME0"

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Thank you in advance.

Me again. Problem solved! Small HP tool for installing network printers did the work. Now I just have to find solution for Image Zone software and it's error.
One note about that HP software. If you can, provide driver file for printer and prepare it before you start setup software. Installation process is faster and very easy.

Microsft Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit and 32bit Retail with WinNt, WinPE, WinMCE networking install no notification

I have not been given any explanations for my multiple electronic communication device retail purchase problems. When ever I purchase a retail smartphone or retail notebook computer they do not have actual installed operating systems as advertised. The android
operating systems are Developer SDK. The operating system on my Virgin Mobile Samsung Galaxy Ring is Android Jelly Bean 4.2.1 purchased this year is part of a Developer SDK. I purchased a Samsung i7 Chronos win8 64 bit notebook at Best Buy last year and it
was configured as a Network Server Client in User Mode through the American Mega Trends Aptio Bios Setup Utility that had been customized to bypass regular Configuration files and install a custom operating systems on Network Volumes instead of the actual
partitioned hard drive. I ended up with WinPE boot in to WinNT and WinMCE in an OEM Networking client server platform partial operating virtual operating systems that I have been allowed a user profile with permissions in the Administrators Group. I am not
even the administrator of my own personal computer. Someone I do not know has hijacked the highest Administrative Authority at retail purchase and open up a number of profiles to the general public through the server client software. They have automated and
live access to the operating systems power up or power down. I do not even think the notebook is ever powered down even though the power and activity lights are out. It is like someone has taken the windows operating system I was suppose to get at retail and
swop it for partial virtual operating systems interface to network client software through serveers. I took the SamSung Chronos back to Best Buy and exchanged it for an Asus G75VX i7 Win8 64 bit gaming notebook with 3GB Nvidia Graphic's chip and 8GB memory
with 1TB hard drive 3D ready and it was configured the same way as the Samsung. I took it back and returned it to Best Buy and exchanged it for another brand new in the unopen box Asus G75VX i7 win8 64bit notebook. I took it back for Best Buy to take a look
at it because it was also configured the same way. Then I sent it to the Asus Service Center two times and it was returned to me both times configured the same way. Before I sent it back to Asus the two times I went to Fry's and purchased Windows 7 Home Premium
32 and 64bit operating systems on DVD and the notebook configured the software the same way. After install of win7 32 or 64bit the installed operating systems did not recognize the Window's 7 Home Premium 32 and 64bit retail DVD as the same version of operating
system. I took a look at the installation files on the retail disk and the configuration installed on the computer came from the software disk and the rest through background network servers but there is something in the AMI Aptio Bios that voids any of the
regular Configuration Files. My computer does not even recognize the configuration file in the normal sense on the retail disk. All of the system file extensions have been altered and been added to creating almost unlimited file extensions like the system
ran on Text. I paid $975.00 for the Samsung Chronos, $1375.00 for the two Asus G75VX's, $216.00 for the win7 DVD, $120.00 or more for insured postage on the to trips to the Asus Service Center not counting Asus prepayment of postage because I had to reship
the notebook in order to get it to me. I have spent about $150.00 or more on software for disk management, anti virus, internet security etc. The retail purchase were modified on return purchases. Since 2007 I have gone through about seven smart phone brand
new, About four of five regular internet phones and about eight notebook computers with three being used and five being brand new.
I still do not have an actual operating system installed on the actual retail hard drive and my notebook is not repaired. I have operating systems installed on Network Disk Volumes that are installed on a GPT Server Partition. The configuration visually
alters from background activities. All of my information is made public through the Virtual Public Shared C: drive.
I am legally disable and a pro se litigator in the United States Federal Courts. Since 2007 I have litigated in three civil actions in the United States District Courts and in one all the way to the United States Supreme Court. I am currently still litigating
in one as a legal interpreter and have done all of the legal work in that action since 2011. I have a civil litigation history in the United States District Courts dating back 28 years.
Having all of my communication devices hacked and the legal and personal information publicly shared through three federal civil actions and through public entity department and agencies is a gross violation of United States Constitution Article IV Citizenship
rights. A gross violation of the Bill of Rights First Amendment Rights to Petition the court for Redress of Grievances and Bill of Rights Fourth Amendment Privacy Rights and Bill of Rights Fourteenth Amendment Equal Protection and Due Process rights. It is
a gross violation of the Federal Communications Act FCC Rule 255 person's with disabilities access to electronics's telephone communication equipment and software since my smart phones and notebook computers were configured with networking, management and
telephone hardware and software. It is a gross violation of Title II of the American with Disabilities Act of 1990 as amended in rights of person's with disabilities. It is a gross violation of the Rehabilitation Act of 1973 as amended on the rehabilitation
rights of persons with disabilities. It is a gross violation of Title VI of the Civil Rights act of 1964 Civil Rights and it is a gross violation of litigation privacy rights within all of the federal court rules such as the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure,
Federal Rules of Evidence, Federal Appellate Court Rules, Local Court Rules and United States Supreme Court Rules and the United States Federal Pacer Electronic Court Account and Filing System. It is also a gross violation of state law that has to comply
with federal law. There exists no question in law of the violations because I have furnished the computer registry files, Receipts and servicing records to Microsoft, Asus and others but nobody know how to solve the problem but the Win7 retail disks identical
to mine disappeared from retail store shelves. What is WNT_6.1H_64_MCE?oes anybody in the Microsoft and Asus community have any explanations for the total disregard for United States federal law and customer retail purchase rights? I went to Fry's and Best
Buy and took a look at a number of notebook computer files and configuration and a number of them were like mine. The thing that irritates me the most about the configuration if it is public is that it is not passive. A profile folder has been configured for
me that alters the configuration of what I purchased to violate my constitutional rights. They even alter the hardware and software settings to Legacy that ran on computers from ten fifteen years ago and force it on me at modern day electronics prices. That
is not right.

Where no law is involved in denials and restrictions in constitutional rights it is impossible for it to be legal.
J.P.

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