New build extension problems

Hi
New build property connected Telephone and Broadband by BT.
Engineer said that the internal phone extentions were also connected up.
Was not at home when engineer visited, extentions in the house are not working.
checked the the wiring on the extentions an noticed wires connected to krone block 2,4,5.
Is this the cause of the extentions not working?
Thanks in advance

BT Socket

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New build, same problems

Having moved into a new build in the Newport area ~4 weeks ago, and ordering our package with BT a week prior to that we are still awaiting an engineer visit to flick a switch. The 'engineer' was booked to turn up on the 8th so i took the day off to enable the visit. low and behold no one showed up and we had to chase BT to find out what had happened. Numerous phone calls have got us no where to date and it appears that Openreach are refusing to investigate. The service received so far from all parties has frankly been appalling and I cannot think of an example in the recent past which has left me feeling so frustrated and helpless. What can BT do about this and what is a 'normal' install time from placing the order? Surely this can't be expected.

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New Build Connection Problems

Hi,
Hoping someone can help me with their past experience or knowledge. I have been in my new build home for a couple of weeks now and am struggling to get a phone/fibre optic connection. Both BT and the OpenReach address checkers have absolutely no information regarding my address even though I have seen both of their vans working down our street (and I confirmed that they were working on the phone lines).
When talking to BT I was told I would need to pay for £130 for a line installation in order for them to tell us what services we could use?!! So potentially I would be out of pocket for nothing, perhaps even unusable broadband.
The street just down from mine is established and shows fibre optic available and taking orders, so I guess my question is who do I need to talk to in order for my new address to get registered too? I find it really weird that the process for new builds is so convoluted and people face massive delays getting connected...
Cheers.

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New build, serious problems.

MSI p67a gd65
msi twin frozr II 570
2500k
corsair hx750
8Gb ripjaw ram
that's all I have plugged into it right now outside of my case.
Just built my new sandy bridge system and when I tried to first power it on it came on for just a few seconds and then turned off. After that it just started looping on and off until I turned the psu off.
The problem seems to be intermittent because sometimes I'm able to boot into bios and other times it gives me some weird thing that says "efi shell version 2.00 [4.640]
Current running mode 1.1.2
map: cannot find required map name.
press esc in x seconds to skip startup.nsh, any other key to continue.
shell> _ "
this seems to happen ~every other restart and clearing cmos gets it to boot into bios again.
Getting 2 long and 1 short beeps I believe.
Edit: I seemed to have solved the chain rebooting issue because I had it resting on the anti-static bag but the issue with the bios not booting and going to that one error message continues to happen.

Try again with only one stick RAM in the blue primary dimm slot. Find a non conductive surface for the board to sit on. Untreated wood or even plain unprinted cardboard.
Reference; https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=131668.0

New build, boot problems, ready to give up.

Ok, I'll start off with the specs: MSI Neo4/SLI - 2 x MSI NX6800GT's - 2 x 512 Corsair XMSTwin PC3200 - 2 x 36.7 WD Raptors - AMD64 3800+
Ok, that's the basics (not going to list all the other crap) of the system. I just put it together yesterday. After the initial install of the OS (XP PRO) everything seemed to work just fine. I got up this morning and the machine wont boot. So I do another fresh install and got it back running. Thought I had some memory problem at first until I switched DIMM slots now that problem is fixed. My current problem is that eveytime I bootup I get the "Floppy not detected" error, then I get the option to press F1 or Del. If I press F1 to continue I get to the screen where it says "Verifiying DMI Pool" then it just sits there. I then have to press the "reset" button and when I get to the Floppy error screen I have to press F8 and then choose "Start Windows Normally". I have to do that everytime in order to get into windows.
I'm really frustrated:wall: here and am at the point of just giving up. I do not know what is causing this. If anyone here has any ideas I'd be endebted and very appreciative. Thank in advance.

Quote from: TheBigMan on 20-June-05, 07:18:22
So, in the first place do you have a floppy drive installed?? If you don't have it the disable it in BIOS, if you have then probably the cable of the floppy is reversed or the floppy is faulty, if it is reversed then reverse it rotating it 180 degrees, if it's faulty you know what to do.
Be well....
Nope, no floppy.

New Build having problems

K9A2 Platinum MB
AMD 4400+cpu
WD Sata 250G HD
Sapphire HD3650 512GPU
Everything put together. Tried to boot, hit delete to enter bios, nothing, just sits there. Tried resetting CMOS same results. Any ideas?

Now that my head is on a little straighter(the steam finally vacated), I'm guessing my PSU isn't nearly up to the task with only one 12v rail with 18a. Ya'll concur? Looking at http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817194010 or http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817812002 Comments? Suggestions? I want cheap(as in inexpensive not "catches fire and burns up everything") and reliable. Trying to do this build for as little as possible.

Problem with MSI 975x Platinum based new build

I am having what looks like a familiar issue with setting up a new build PC. Spec is as follows:
MSI 975x Platinum edition MOBO
Intel Core Duo 2 e6600 CPU
Western Digital Raptor 150GB S150 16mb 10000rpm SATA drive
Corsair Memory TWIN2X2048-6400 2x1GB 240-Pin DIMM XMS2-6400 CL5
SONY DVD-RW
The problem comes when trying to install Windows XP on the single SATA drive (I don't want a RAID array - mainly as I only have 1 hard drive!).
I press F6 as instructed to install the SATA drive - I have created a disk with the necessary driver files from the MSI website.
Based on other posts I have seen I have put all the files except "txtsetup.oem" in another folder on the floppy (either "\win_XP" or "\winXP"). However I still get the same error message:
"file \x32\jraid.sys caused an unexpected error (18) at line 2108 in d:\xpspl\base\boot\setup\oemdisk.c"
I am beginning to think I can't install XP to a SATA drive. Can anyone help with this? Is there an "official" driver floppy disk I can get from MSI in exactly the right format?
Alternatively is it worthwhile buying a small standard IDE drive and installing XP to that to get me going and then install the SATA drive once XP is going? Would it then be possible to shift XP onto the faster SATA drive?
Thanks

if you using 1 sata drive you dont set it up as a raid , in the sata options set it up as ide enhanced also in this mode no need for pressing f6 just make sure that the sata is set to 1st boot hdd , if you using 1 sata and 1 ide hdd and tring to isntall on the sata disconnect the ide hdd because it will mess with your drive letters in windows ... if you goin raid ( achi mode is only for sata 2 drives with NCQ = native command queing and your drives have to support this mode ) then in the sata drives portion set it to raid ( achi if your drives support it ) in the force part set it to force gen 1 ( for sata 1 drives ) force gen 2 ( for sata 2 drives ) then you will need to set up the raid config in the intel raid config ( its the next post screen telling you press CTRL+I ) set it up reboot reneter bios set hdd priority to intel raid 0 then intsall windows but press f6 ... yes i ran it 2 ways single sata drive and now raided 80's in raid 0 ( i dont have NCQ support yet )

Power on-off-on Problems with New Build Z68A-GD65(G3)

I'm hoping someone has seen these issues and can help me, although I realize this is a vague issue. I'm working on a new build. On power up everything looks good but then I get a power off and back on (like a reset). Sometimes it happens very quickly; other times it will stay on for roughly 5-10 minutes before the reset. I've checked all the connectors, case wires look ok, BIOS info looks correct.
The other issue is that when I tried to do the Win 7 install, it loads the files, goes to the "Starting Windows" screen, and freezes there (until the next power off problem shuts things down).
Any ideas on what to try to narrow things down? Seems like it almost has to be the power supply or motherboard?

Quote from: Henry on 28-October-11, 09:54:40
You have more than a Z68A-GD65(G3), please list he rest of your components. See my signature below for example of what to list.
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I've disconnected everything but the mouse, keyboard and monitor and still have the power resets.
Tried one memory module at a time... still fails.
Played with lower memory freq settings... still fails.
Finally pulled the MB out, bench tested it to rule out shorting in the case; tried it with and without other peripherals... still fails.
I think I'll RMA the MB, although I suppose it could be the psu (unlikely, I'd think).
I had two bad motherboards in my last build. I had hope that MSI would be better...

New Build / New Phone line Problems (Home Move)

Hello Forum
First post.
Been trying to arrange a home move for 2/3 weeks now (New Build). Was told to get the address registered with Royal Mail. Have done this. Address still not appearing with BT. Get told on the phone someone will ring me back from offline team within 24 / 48 hrs but they never do.
Anybody have any experience than this? Any help to get this sorted much appreciated.
regards
Chris

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New Build Problem - The Return

I have a new build and on boot I reach the stage
"Press F1 to Continue or Del to enter Setup"
but cant get further.............is my keyboard (ordinary PS/2 keyboard - tested working) not being recognised
for some reason?
D-Bracket diagnostic always stops at
"Initializing Floppy Drive Controller
This will initialize Floppy Drive & Controller"
but I don't have a Floppy Drive installed!!!
Many thanks for any help in advance.
MSI K8N Diamond nForce4 SLi (Socket 939) PCI-Ex Motherboard
AMD Athlon 64 3800+ Newcastle 130nm(Socket 939)
Corsair TWINX1024-3200C2 XPERT TwinX (2x512) 1GB Dual Channel Kit
Enermax EG485AX-VHB(W)SFMA 480W ATX Retail (PSU)
Maxtor DiamondMAX 10 300GB SATA 16MB Cache
MSI GeForce 6800 Ultra PCI-Express 256MB
Sony DRU-720A 16x Dual DVD-R Double Layer

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If it stucks on that one , doesn't that mean that it's the next one in the process that fails ?
Funny u should mention that, I was thinking about that a while back, particularly when setting up stickies. Saw nothing to support my logic & so went back to simlpler things like the meaning of life.
My Thoughts ended up as:-
1) but on the basis the system, on failing the stage, will be in various degrees of instability, it can't reliably be expected to feed back. Therefore 2)
2) Logically the system presets LED state for the next stage on completion of the previous stage. If the next stage fails the Led bracket is correct about the failing stage.

P35 Neo2-FIR New Build Problems

Hi there,
Just finished new build (specs below), but get the full row of red LEDs on power up. Cycles through this endlessly. Cleared CMOS to no effect.
No idea what BIOS I have as system has never been on.
Any ideas?
Antec P182
MSI P35 Neo2-FIR
Q9300
Corsair 2 x 2Gb XMS2 PC-6400
Gigabyte 9600GT 512Mb
Corsair HX520W PSU
TIA

The lights are not the final word as I have gotten that indication when my video card was not properly seated on an other board even tho it was supposed to mean processor failure for that board too. Maybe the vendor of the board can lend you an other cpu to flash bios. An other alternative would be to RMA for reflash if possible once you are sure it's the processor and the bios.
Presumably Balloonshark has the same processor. Good luck to both of you. Let us know how it works out.

Build Extension Configuration / Deployment Extension Configuration

Hello,
I've been following the tutorial to build a Deployment Plan Modifier here (https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dn268597%28v=vs.103%29.aspx), and I saw this post (http://blogs.msdn.com/b/ssdt/archive/2013/06/24/announcing-sql-server-data-tools-june-2013.aspx)
that describes the addition of Build Extension Configuration and Deployment Extension Configuration files to SSDT projects. I get the impression that maybe these files could be used to pass configuration information to a Deployment Plan Modifier, such
as to define a custom upgrade action on a table.
I cannot find any documentation that describes the purpose of Deployment Extension Configurations or how to create and use them (I have looked through SSDT documentation, blog posts etc.). Ideally, there should be documentation and a walk through available
on MSDN for this. Has anybody else used them? Can anybody give an example of how to use them or point me in the direction of some documentation?
Thanks
Lipod

Hi Lipod, your best place to get started with contributors is our
API tutorial (see Solution 2: Filtering at deployment time) and our
dacsamples project on Codeplex. These have more samples than the walkthrough and I think will be more useful in helping you get up and running.
However, having taken a look at those they still don't cover Deployment Extension Configuration files so I'll do my best to explain here. Note: the next paragraph will probably answer your needs, I'm writing more in case others want to know how these can
be used.
Configuration with Deployment Contributor Arguments
Deployment Contributor Arguments are key-value pairs that you would generally use to configure your contributor. A good example is the
test code here, that shows how to configure whether ONLINE and MAXDOP values should be set when creating indexes. This is generally how you pass in simple configuration information and what we use in the samples.
It's likely this will solve your requirements.
Configuration with Deployment Extension Configuration Files
Deployment Configuration Files define files that you'd like your contributor to process (note: this happens at build time), and possibly include in the dacpac for processing at the time your contributor runs. The best
example of why you'd use this is if you wanted to include reference data (e.g. data to fill in a ZipCode table) in the dacpac and then add this to the deployment plan.
To include these at build time you must define these in your .sqlproj file and also specify that your deployment contributor is required (e.g. include the <DeploymentContributors>...</DeploymentContributors> section per the
walkthrough).
You must also implement the
OnEstablishDeploymentConfiguration and
OnApplyDeploymentConfiguration methods.
OnEstablish... runs at build time (project build or when building using the public APIs, which you can use for testing). The important thing to note is we don't save everything into the dacpac by default - you need to "opt in" by either
copying an input file to the output "as is" or
creating a new output file and saving data there. A good example of why this happens is that our pre/post deployment contributors merge multiple files into one single predeploy.sql/postdeploy.sql file.
OnApply... runs at the start of the deployment process and gives you a chance to setup your contributor based on the config files in the dacpac. If you copied an input file/opened an output file it'll be in the dacpac, and now is your chance to get it out.
You can then use it later during the Execute phase.
If you're wondering "why not let me just read my files during OnExecute", really this comes down to a design decision based on ensuring deployment proceeds reliably and all resources are released correctly, with no conflicts on who has access
to a resource.
For the example of reference data, you would:
- Define the "DeployReferenceData" contributor in your project, and specify the deployment configuration files.
- The contributor would read reference data files during OnEstablish and state they should be saved in the dacpac.
- During build the OnEstablish method will be called (since you specified your contributor's name in the project properties) and the files are saved into the dacpac. It's a zip file, so you can verify that a folder containing the files exists inside the
dacpac.
- At deploy time, during OnApply it would read all reference data files out into memory / file storage if too large. It would also set up some kind of reference to their location or even a nice mapping table (table name -> Reference data).
- At deploy time, during OnExecute it would then add in DeploymentSteps that update the data in the tables using TSQL code. Note that this is another limitation of the current system - we don't suport a generic "Execute" method that could programmatically
be used to deploy a BCP file, for example. If this is something you need, please open a Connect ticket :-)
- At deploy time, all steps in the plan are executed. Assuming you programmed your TSQL code to use Merge statements or another idempotent process the update should go correctly. If you wrote "Insert" statements there's a good chance it would fail
on a 2nd deployment.
Conclusions
The key takeaways are that contributor arguments should solve most of your problems, but for advanced scenarios involving data that can't be defined in a key-value pair of strings then config files are a good alternative. They have some limitations
but provide great power to solve problems. Also the samples are a good place to start for all of this work.
If you have requests for additional samples in this area, or for improvements to the API layer, then open Connect bugs with a good scenario description and we will at least keep this as open issues to be tracked for possible future improvements.
Regards,
Kevin

New line at a new build

Hi
On the 18/2/14 I ordered a new line and bb package to my new build property. My current Infinity 2 services were terminated on the 28/2/14 and I was given the standard 4 week wait to be connected back up again but on standard ADSL broadband as Infinity didn’t come up on the system yet (which it now does btw).
Everything was setup for the 27th March, I took the day off as holiday and no engineer turned up even though I was sent numerous txts and emails saying they would. No one contacted me and I got no explanation why this occurred. I rang up the next day and was told about some Openreach work that hadn’t been completed. Another update today and its now scheduled for completion on the 15/16th April so I assume I might be able to reschedule then if its completed.
That will mean 8 weeks without a phone line or bb yet I am continually charged (like I’m still living at my old address) for services I can not use at all. On the 3/3/14 a full payment was made, then on the 21/3/14 another which had discounts for line rental (I make an annual payment) which came out in £1.98 credit, but the breakdown of the bill has a charge for £25 for Infinity 2 to begin with which I don’t even have. I would of thought that as I have no services what so ever I should only be given credit each month for the line rental I have already paid for.
If possible could some one please check my order as I would like a refund for what I cannot use and terminate any further payments until my services have been installed (which could be anyone’s guess knowing Openreach timescales). I have no use of BT WIFI or BT Sport and as nothing is within my range.
Regards
Chris

Hi
I am sorry to see you are having problems
I suggest you contact live chat at this link they should be able to help you
http://bt.custhelp.com/app/contact/c/2902/?s_intcid=con_intban_sanda_contact_us_chat_from_forums
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NO LINE!!! NO HELP! NO DUCTING NEW BUILD HOUSE

So here goes . , my ongoing unlimited stress with bt
27 july ordered bt
closest visit? 23 august!!!!! WHAT A JOKE
wait till 23th bt was suppose to turn up between 1-6pm noone turned up noone called to say they wasnt turn up.
called them up for them to tell me there was a fault in my line? i dont even have a line connected!!!
they also tell me i didnt need someone to come out because the work inside the house was complete and all they had to do with flick a so called switch in the exchange! but yet they booked a appointment and it took them over 4 weeks for them to notice this even after i told them it was a new build with all new fitted bt installed inside and going outside the house into the ground!more wasted time and hassle!
got told it will be connected within 24 hours and i have to wait till 8pm on the friday before calling back , so i ask what time does call centre close friday , get told 10pm ok i said if not connected by 8.01 i will call back after being hung up on and sent to 3 different people i got that so come 8pm friday no connection no line so i call bt back ( ON A MOBILE!!) and what the heck there closed FALSE INFORMATION AGAIN
come saturday i call them again to be passed from pillow to post spending over 3 hours on the phone to them!!!!!
i eventually get through to a manager who tells me the builders need to confirm they have installed the ''' duct'''' so called outside the house. this one manager was the one i spoke to on friday who said he would call me on satursday at 11am. which he never called, in fact he never bothered to call untill come near on 5pm after being on hold and on the phone for over 3 half hours he come through from someone transfereing him as he was the manager on call that day, little to say he was very shocked to have caught me yet again!!!!, where he then went into what his job was and it wasnt stretching to deal with me or my issue as he is very busy! being the manager of not doin the jobs he says i assume!!!!
right so heres a problem i can solve our builders are still building new propertys close to mine so i contact them and approach and they confirm all the work is done, so i relay this back to bt who tell me the order is now goin through and will up and running within 24 hours.
so i then have to wait untill tuesday because of the bank holiday , yet again more calling more transfering here there and everywhere hours and hours pass on the phone
i get back in touch with another manager who tells me that the line will be connected as soon as he has contacted open reach to get someone to turn the line on! wooohoo i think where getting some where
NOOOOO i then recieve another call telling me open reach cant do any work on the line or any work without the builders contacting them , eve though i have already confirmed it with all of them
come friday 31st september i receive a call saying the builders have confirmed the work and the work will be carried out and i should be connected very soon,
no connection as of monday so i call for a update...
get through to another person who has took all my details but has no idea what is going on and just telling me they understand how im feeling!!!!. who then passes me from manager to manager then to faults, then to accounting then finally to contracts! the guy didnt know who i was why i was put through but got through to open reach who told them the line would be connected working via wednesday ...
wednesday comes and yet again there is no connection no line NOTHING,
i call back up yet again ON A MOBILE to find now that no work will be done no work has been done!
they have no idea who called me to tell me the builders had confirmed it and no idea about the line other than it will not be connected without confirmation from the builders on ducting..
the finall words for the call was that i had to wait another '''24 HOURS''' For an update on open reach connecting the line , his words was just 24 hours for us to get the update and i promise you we will know more
someone is suppose to be calling me back from never land that never calls so i wont hold my breath.
i have NEVER in all my life been messed about by any company as bad as bt has let me down, i cannot trust anything im being told as they keep saying then taking it back and changing it, all i get is im so sorry i understand or, well i dont know why they have told you that or i cant see that or anything like that!..
im at the end of my wit patience and sanity, please if someone can get my line connected please help because im at a right loss with no phone and appointments and calls i need to make
thank you

Hi misscheryl1987,
Did you get my email on the 14th?
When I spoke with the engineers' department originally, they confirmed that work would start on the 28/09 but may take up to Monday 01/10 for the line to activate, depending on the amount of work required.
At the moment I am unable to get more updates but I will chase up on Monday when the department I need to speak to is open again.
Stephanie
Stephanie
BTCare Community Manager
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What to expect from a new build I'm planning

I have a basic "opinion" or "guess" question, please.
I'm planning a new build at some point and have to make a decision on when to take the financial plunge. In a few months, funds will be better, but I can manage the cost now if the speed improvements will be worth it. Speed improvements mean time which means money.
I'm running a small business producing videos for ourselves for business presentations (marketing and fund-raising) using Premiere Pro, outputting to FLV and DVD.
My content is pretty simple: video footage (talking head) from a camcorder, with two more tracks for titles and Photoshop images, with dip-to-black transitions. Soon I'll have my video guru provide some 3D animations that will also be included.
Until now, I've been capturing my footage into an interlaced project where I cut the raw footage into usable pieces. Then, I output those pieces to AVI, which I then run through a routine in Virtual Dub with presets my guru provided me with to take care of noise reduction and deinterlacing. Then, I import that resultant AVI (or set of AVIs) to a progressive project where I finish my editing and add the additional tracks with the titles, images and transitions.
Then, I output that to AVI, and convert those AVIs to FLV and/or use Encore to create DVD images.
The main concern I have is the very long wait times when I output to AVI from Premiere, process with Virtual Dub, and output to DVD image from Encore. (Of course, reduction in any wait time adds up, too.)
So, I have to try to guess at what kind of time I'll save when doing those tasks (and across overall working time) once I build the new machine. That will help me decide on whether to build the new machine now or later, based on the financial criteria.
I currently own an HP workstation, but it will not support the new Fermie CUDA cards. I want to use a GTX-470 (or -480). This is the pivotal issue that requires I build a new machine. Until then, I’m not using the CS5 MPE-CUDA features. What I don't know is how much time it will really save me on those major time-consuming tasks when I do make the jump.
One important consideration may lie in the fact that, accoring to my video guru, one of the advantages of the way Premiere CS5 plays well together with the approved CUDA cards is that it does GPU-based deinterlacing. He's suggesting this should may save me the time of having to do it in Virtual Dub phase (I'm not sure what he suggests about the noise reduction -- I think he may have commented that it may no longer be unnecessary, though to me it has seemd to make a huge improvement).
(Note: I see there are still some bugs in CS5 that hamper the benefits for now. For instance, I've read that there's an issue with CS5 whereby it takes a long time to export to AVI, and that there's a compromise with DV on an external monitor, but I don't know that those are issues in my decision since the former is going to exist regardless of whether I do the new build and the latter probably doesn't even apply to me.)
Here are my two system configurations, the "before and after," that I want to compare or, rather, to please ask for some guesses about as to potential time savings. Maybe I should call them the "Current" and "New build."
CURRENT:
- HP z400 machine -- mid-tower (no room for cooling a Fermie card)
- CPU: Xeon quad-core 4-thread
- RAM: 8MB DDR2
- GPU: nVidia FX-580 (obviously won't support new benefits of CS5 the way the GTX-470/480 in the new build will)
- DRIVES: one HD for OS/apps, one HD for swap, and three HDs in a RAID-5 array for data
NEW BUILD:
- high-end full-tower case with plenty of cooling support
- MOBO: ASUS P6X58D
- CPU: i7 930 (maybe OCd a bit, or maybe 980x)
- RAM: 12GB DDR3 triple-channel
- GPU: nVidia GTX-470 (or maybe 480)
- DRIVES: either same as current system, or maybe going to five drives in a RAID-3 array for data
I'd be hugely grateful for any guesses as to how much time in the major encoding tasks (and in overall work time) the new build is likely to save me.
Thanks so much!
Jay

Bill Gehrke wrote:
Jay, I wonder about this statement of yours "I currently own an HP workstation, but it will not support the new Fermie CUDA cards". How did you come to that conclusion?
Hi Bill,
Well, I make that assertion after a huge amount of time lost trying to make it work.
(See my posts July 16 and July 18th in this thread for the longer version of my excursion: http://forums.adobe.com/message/2945538#2945538)
The GTX-470 calls for at least 550W of power, The HP z400 workstation comes with 475W and it's a proprietary power supply. It won't take a standard ATX PSU -- the screw holes won't line up and even its pin-out for the system power plug is custom.
Undaunted, I bought a Corsair HX750W power supply and placed it outside of the machine on the floor, and used it solely to power the GPU.
I put the GTX-470 in and left the case cover off while familiarizing myself with Windows 7 for a couple days, but when I came into the office the third say the machine was locked up and the GPU was scorching hot. All fans on all components seemed to be working fine.
(I also noticed that the onboard sound never installed and there was no sound, and that the Sound, video and game controllers section in Device Manager only had four instances of "NVIDIA High Definition Audio." HP tech support was at a loss. My video guru says those drivers are probably normal from the GTX-470 card, but nobody could explain why the mother board considered that a replacement for the onboard sound. We don't know if that was a sign of imperfect compatibility between the GPU and mother board, which seems feasible since I had already learned -- the hard way after days of work -- that the mother board was at least a little custom in that the PSU was custom even at the system plug.)
So, when I had come that mornign and found the machine locked and the GPU super hot, I expermimented by cooling the machine down with a huge 12" external fan, then rebooted. For the next fifteen hours I waited to see if it would again heat up and lock up (or was it "lock up then heat up"?) and put more load on it by playing an AVI in WMP full-screen a number of times. For those fifteen hours the system ran fine and GPU stayed somewhere between cool and only very moderately warm.
Nobody has had a reason why it had ended up with the machine locked and the GTX-470 resulted scorching hot.
Bad GPU? Insufficient cooling? (Which maybe caused the system board to lock down the machine... which caused it to keep the GPU going with insufficient fan power???) Incompatibility between the GPU and system board? (Which had caused it to lock up the GPU in "on" mode and thus get scorching hot?)
And the consensus among those who thought it was a cooling issue was "almost" unanimous in saying that just running it with the case cover on would not be enough to keep the GPU reliably below the necessary cooling threshold, especially since I hadn't even begun to put a real load on it (I hadn't even installed Premiere on the machine yet).
And, it seemed evident to me that trying to creatively pack the machine with fans and cooling was just not realistic. If it is, I'd like to know, since that would be a lot cheaper than building a $5,000 machine. Here's a picture of the machine with the GTX-470 in it: www.silver100.com/x/z400_GTX-470.JPG.
Of course, all the cooling in the world still wouldn't help if the problem was compatibility with the system board.
You'll notice I got no responses at that other thread when I asked what the "guess" was as to the cause. So, I figured that -- short of it being a bad GPU -- building a new machine was the only way to fix it if it was a cooling problem and the only way to fix it if it was a compatibility problem.
I'm sure anxious to hear your thoughts.
Thanks so much!
Jay

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