New From Template Changes Relative Links to Local Root?

Thank you for taking the time to read and understand my plight with Dreamweaver CS3 for Mac. I apologize for the lengthy question, but in the effort to provide detail I shall go. First the background:
I'm updating, editing, and appending an existing site that was previously created with Dreamweaver.
I'm new to Dreamweaver but have a pretty good understanding of things
I created a new site on the local drive on my MacBook Pro and then downloaded the entire site via FTP (live site: domain.com)
I then replicated the site and exact file structure using FTP to a staging server (staging.domain.com)
There are three existing .dwt templates. I've successfully updated the template file and auto updated all other pages that were based on this template.
But my problem comes from creating new pages FROM the template. It appears that while the .dwt template file shows relative links (../xxxx) in the code, when create a new file from the template the url of these links is replaced by the path to the file on my local drive... I want non of this (.../xxxx) is fine.
What is happening is that a javascript drop down menu is disappearing when I create new from template. I am assuming it's because of the path changes.
This is the ORIGINAL (good) code from the .dwt:

<tr>
     <td height="31">
          <table width="718" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0">
               <tr>
                    <td width="24"><img src="../images/L-Header-Corner.gif" width="30" height="50" border="0"></td>
                    <td width="342" style="background-image: url(../images/Header-BG.gif);"><img src="../images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="337" height="1" border="0"> </td>
But when I create a NEW page from the above template the code is changed to the local path:

<tr>
     <td height="31">
          <table width="718" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0">
               <tr>
                    <td width="24"><img src="file:///Grasshopper/Users/allan/Documents/clients/site/site staging master/images/L-Header-Corner.gif" width="30" height="50" border="0"></td>
                    <td width="342" style="background-image: url(file:///Grasshopper/Users/allan/Documents/clients/site/site staging master/images/Header-BG.gif);"><img src="file:///Grasshopper/Users/allan/Documents/clients/site/site staging master/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="337" height="1" border="0"> </td>
To be sure all links in the template file are changed too.
This is the .dwt file itself
This is a random page created from the above template.
And this page was created by simply altering the .dwt template file linked above and then SAVING AS. You can see the relative links remained and the navigation bar looks and operates as normal.
To provide easier visual reference I offer the following:
This is the .dwt file when opened in dreamweaver:
Note the black area where the javascript drop down menu is in the top navigation when the page is correct:
But when I create a NEW page from template this is what I get in the top navigation bar:
And then this is what it looks like when posted:
Ultimately what I'm trying to do is:
1) work on site files on my local drive
2) sync the local drive with staging.domain.com so my client can proof and approve
3) sync to the actual live site at domain.com
I assume I could simply do this by changing the ftp info and given the site structure and all files are same and ideally all links are relative this should be accomplished easily.
Though perhaps my problem stems from the fact my local site is buried several layers deep on my local drive Local Drive/Users/Me/Clients/Client.... etc... but I haven't checked this yet.

Great... Thanks for your patience....
Here are links to all questioned files on the staging server:
This is the .dwt file itself
This is a random page created from the above template that shows the image/navigation incorrect.
And this page was created by simply altering the .dwt template file linked above and then SAVING AS. You can see the relative links remained and the navigation bar looks and operates as normal. (obviously the wrong thing to do.
And this page is one that was created prior to my working on the site and was based on the subpage template and displays correctly.
Now bear with me here as I notice this behavour too.
In the code snipped taken directly from the DW .dwt template (linked above)
<td width="24"><img src="../images/L-Header-Corner.gif" width="30" height="50" border="0"></td>
                    <td width="342" style="background-image: url(../images/Header-BG.gif);"><img src="../images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="337" height="1" border="0"> </td>
you'll notice there are two images L-Header-Corner.gif and one that is Header.BG.gif.
The difference here is that the BG gif has a style attributed to it "Background-Image) which is followed by some strange code that says (url)../
Opening that file Background Image and it's a tiny slice of what I think is part of the entire missing gray bar:
In a page that displays correctly the code looks like this:
<td width="24"><img src="../images/L-Header-Corner.gif" width="30" height="50" border="0"></td>
                    <td width="342" style="background-image: url(../images/Header-BG.gif);"><img src="../images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="337" height="1" border="0"> </td>
And in a page that is displaying incorrectly the code appears like this:
<td width="24"><img src="../images/L-Header-Corner.gif" width="30" height="50" border="0"></td>
                    <td width="342" style="background-image: url(file:///Grasshopper/Users/allan/Documents/clients/koolfog/koolfog website staging/images/Header-BG.gif);"><img src="../images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="337" height="1" border="0"> </td>
So you can see that the link in this case (with the URL and style) has actually been converted to a site (my hard drive) relative link when saving.
So the pressing question stands: Why doesn't dreamweaver convert that URL link when saving a page created from a template back to the same directory?
Also, it appears that in that .DWT all the links have the leading periods and therefore are document relative... since I didn't set this up, how do you think this happened?

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> I have lots of sites & templates, yet EVERY site and
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> pages.
> This just started, very strange. All help is needed!!
>

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> Usually, (the way I am used to building sites), is I
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"DJ Website Designer" <[email protected]>
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>
quote:
Originally posted by:
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> the
> purpose and process entirely.-- Alan Adobe Community
Expert, dreamweaver
>
http://www.adobe.com/communities/experts/
Maybe we should start here
> then...
> Usually, (the way I am used to building sites), is I
create a page I like,
> then
> whenever I I want to create a new page, based on that
design I open that
> page
> and do Save As a different file name. Then, since the
template regions,
> i.e.;
> the navigation or footer, or anything that might have to
be altered later
> and
> global changes applied are already on that copied page,
I can change one
> or the
> other and all the changes are applied to all pages which
share the
> navigation
> or footer, etc. The alternative to the Save As method,
is that I choose
> create
> new from template, but then I typically have to change
more stuff. So,
> for
> example the site in question here:
http://towtruckswreckerscarriers.com
I
> have
> several pages which may be duplicated time and time
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> be
>
http://towtruckswreckerscarriers.com/wrecker-new-tow-truck-2007-red-ford-f550-su
> percab-xlt-7EA86941.html Obviously if I am creating gobs
of these pages,
> if I
> make any changes to the main navigation or any other
elements which are
> global,
> I would like these changes to appply to all these pages
as well. SO...
> Not
> having ESP to DW's designer's philisophy (and Help Pages
certainly don't
> convey
> it), that's what I thought the purpose of using DW
templates was. To
> eliminate
> the need of opening each and every page and updating
site features over
> and
> over, then re-uploading (putting), pages on my host
server. I do have a
> folder
> in my directory named templates, with a file index.dwt
(I have tried
> making
> changes to that page and uploading - I mean putting, but
it changes
> nothing).
> So, in my case how would I save a page to be used over
an over again,
> which I
> could make multiple copies of and yet still change stuff
on those pages
> (like
> images, text, Title, metas) PLUS have the ability to
make a change to site
> navigation, etc and see it populate all the pages I have
already created?
>
>

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OK I have a master template file. Let's say it is named
a.dwt. I used a.dwt to create another template (b.dwt) that had
more content on it than a.dwt. I would use b.dwt to create a group
of similar looking pages which still had all the elements of a.dwt
but also the additional content of b.dwt.
Now if I make a change to the a.dwt template, all pages
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create the b.dwt by going to file->new->page from
template->and then save it as a .dwt OR maybe it's not possible
to have a secondary template that gets updated when the first
template gets updated thus causing all pages from the secondary
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and b.dwt instead of just making the change on a.dwt and that
change flowing into b.dwt and its spawned pages.

>I think what possibly happened is that I opened a.dwt and
then made the
> addition of the form element to a.dwt but then simply
saved as b.dwt
> instead of
> FILE | New From Template
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> There will be about 15 pages that will look the same
(have the
> same form) except that at the top it will say "Send mail
to Person X"
> where
> Person X will change.
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method of
sending form data is notioriously unreliable, you know? It
depends on a)
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and b) your
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and c) your
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public locations
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>I think what possibly happened is that I opened a.dwt and
then made the
> addition of the form element to a.dwt but then simply
saved as b.dwt
> instead of
> FILE | New From Template
>
> Thus when I made changes to a.dwt, they did not
propagate to pages created
> from b.dwt
>
> I am asking you what I should do. Should I create a new
page from a.dwt
> and
> then paste in the form code (which is the additional
code that
> differentiates
> it from a.dwt)? There will be about 15 pages that will
look the same
> (have the
> same form) except that at the top it will say "Send mail
to Person X"
> where
> Person X will change.
>
> Or should I nest the templates by doing your steps:
> 1. Create a.dwt.
> 2. Spawn a child from a.dwt with FILE | New From
Template..., and select
> a.dwt
> 3. Edit this child, as needed, and then SAVE IT AS A
TEMPLATE, e.g., FILE
> |
> Save as Template....
>
> I do not understand how there will be a complex
maintenance price. The
> behavior that I would be looking for is that if I had to
make an addition
> or
> edit of the navigation using a.dwt, the change would
carry over to the
> b.dwt
> template and it's pages.
>
> I am kind of leaning towards copying the code that is
already present for
> the
> forms spawned from b.dwt and then pasting it into a
brand new page that is
> spawned from a.dwt but I don't know if that's the best
way to do it or if
> there
> would be consequences.
>

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Re-navigating to the site and image folders in the site
definitions.
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TIA,
Beth

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On 12/29/06 3:03 PM, in article
[email protected], "Murray
*ACE*" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Can you show me the template file involved?
This is one of several templates, all of which now
demonstrate the same
behavior:
<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0
Transitional//EN"
http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">
<html
xmlns="
http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
<head> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type"
content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1" />  <title>Template</title>

<link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css"
href="../CSS/main.css"> <script
type="text/javascript"
src="../js/p7_eqCols2_10.js"></script>    </head> <body
onLoad="P7_equalCols2(1,'sidebar','P','content','P')">
<div id="wrapper">
[HTML snipped]
</div> </body> </html>
And below is the problem area of the document I just now
created from this
template:
<link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css"
href="file:///BRASH/Users/bethrosengard/Documents/%20BR%20DOCUMENTS/Steph/CS
S/main.css"> <script type="text/javascript"
src="file:///BRASH/Users/bethrosengard/Documents/%20BR%20DOCUMENTS/Steph/js/
p7_eqCols2_10.js"></script>
I hope this goes through in HTML or you¹re going to have
a hell of a time
sorting it out :-).
Thanks,
Beth
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<HTML>
<HEAD>
<TITLE>Re: DW 8 mangling doc from
template</TITLE>
</HEAD>
<BODY>
<FONT FACE=3D"Arial"><SPAN
STYLE=3D'font-size:12.0px'>On 12/29/06 3:03 PM, in a=
rticle [email protected], "Murray
*ACE*" <foru=
[email protected]> wrote:<BR>
<BR>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#000098">> Can you show me the
template file involved?<BR>
</FONT><BR>
This is one of several templates, all of which now
demonstrate the same beh=
avior:<BR>
<BR>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#800000"><!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC
"-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 =
Transitional//EN" "<a href=3D"
http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1=
-transitional.dtd">
http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd</=
a>">
<html xmlns=3D"
http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
<head>
<meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type"
content=3D"text/html; chars=
et=3DISO-8859-1" />

<title>Template</title>

<link rel=3D"stylesheet"
type=3D"text/css" href=3D"..=
/CSS/main.css">
<script type=3D"text/javascript"
src=3D"../js/p7_eqCols2_10.j=
s"></script>



</head>
<body
onLoad=3D"P7_equalCols2(1,'sidebar','P','content','P')"&gt=
<div id=3D"wrapper">
<BR>
[HTML snipped]<BR>
<BR>
</div>
</body>
</html><BR>
</FONT><BR>
And below is the problem area of the document I just now
created from this =
template:<BR>
<BR>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#800000"><link
rel=3D"stylesheet" type=3D"text/c=
ss"
href=3D"file:///BRASH/Users/bethrosengard/Documents/%20BR%20DOCU=
MENTS/Steph/CSS/main.css">
<script type=3D"text/javascript"
src=3D"file:///BRASH/Users/b=
ethrosengard/Documents/%20BR%20DOCUMENTS/Steph/js/p7_eqCols2_10.js">=
</script><BR>
<BR>
</FONT>I hope this goes through in HTML or
you’re going to have a hel=
l of a time sorting it out :-).<BR>
<BR>
Thanks,<BR>
<BR>
Beth</SPAN></FONT>
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