New Mega 865 Problems

Really need some help here, something is going horribly wrong.
Right heres the spec:
Brand new Mega 865 Deluxe version
a 512MB module of Geil PC3500 Golden Dragon Ram
P4 3Ghz Northwood 800FSB
Nvidia Geforce 4 Ti4600
Western Digital IDE 8MB Cache 160Gig Hard Drive: set to Master
Nec 8x DVD Double Layer Dual R/RW IDE BLACK Burner OEM: set to Master
I'm trying to install Windows XP Home onto it, I have two legit versions, one with SP1 and one with SP2 and neither of which are working correctly.
The version with only SP1 on it says the partition on the harddrive isn't XP compatible please delete and create a new one (so I do) when I do this I get same message over and over again, never ending cycyle.
The version with SP2 installs only to hard drive fine after a full NTFS format but it gets to the stage where it restarts your PC at the end of the installation where it stays in dos. What it should do is load up into the GUI final part of the installation, it doesn't get this far. Instead i get the message "Disk bot failure, insert system disk and press enter."
As for updating the bios, the whole process seemed really complecated when you can't get into windows to do it through MSI's utility and don't have a floppy disk drive because you have the deluxe version. Also I'm not even sure I can update the bios without windows even installed, I made an emulated boot cd with the dos flashing utility and new beta bios on but that isn't working either.
I have tried changing around jumper settings and bios settings including boot device prioritys etc but it's not getting me anywhere. I had heard good things about this shuttle and don't really want to have to return it but this forum is pretty much my last resort.
Any help apprechiated, thanks.

I guess rkoppen is right (although I've never dealt with XP home edit, and in my "vanilla" XP pro setup the card reader did not interfere)
On previous OS-es supporting NTFS there always was a chance to select additional 'stroage" devices where to install the system into.
Other thought - when setup proposes to delete/reformat existing partitions, it usually shows the available size (at least that is/was so with NT4 and Win2k, and XP Pro) Is the indicated size anywhere in the neighborhood of the HDD capacity you have? (probably not, if you try to "reformat" an empty card reader )

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I am using MEGA 865 + P4 Prescott 3.2E + XP SP2. When I browse internet or browse my computer, the windows always close down. And I found some infomation in the XP Event viewer with event ID 1002. (The shell was stopped and then restarted. By default, the shell is explorer.exe).
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And sometimes the pc reboot
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Everything was working fine up until a couple days ago.
I had WinXP pro installed and it was okay except for a minor (but weird) problem. I would try to shut off the computer but it would never completely shutdown. It would shut down then immeduately restart. It wasn't a problem since the computer was on most of the time anyway.
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MEGA 865 Big Display problem

Hi,
i get my new MEGA 865 last Week, but i have a big Problem with it, every time i unplug and plug the Power Cable, the Display on the front is off.
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The information came from MSI Tech support.
I also cannot believe that they sell a Multimedia PC with the MSI Media Suite package that just doesn't work. Any updates? No. Nothing. The MSI Media Suite is meant to be one of the reasons for it costing more than the other MEGA's.
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Obviously PC Alert4 is proving the exception here. It seems to me (I have no confirmation) that PC Alert as supplied on the CD, has API's / DLL's added to take care of the LCD display, and these have not been checked/thought of in a subsequent "standard" version.
I am also interested in seeing how I could control / program the LCD display. I seem to remember someone saying that WinXP Media Center can also change the LCD Display, this hints at either a special driver or an API in XP to get to its settings. I'll try dig a little deeper when I have a spare moment unless anyone already knows the answer.

Building mega 865 pro pc...

hey..
i've just bought my brand new mega 865 pro and havn't got a clue what to put inside it..
i think i'll go for the pentium 4 3.0ghz.. but after that, i'm not sure what is compatible with it..
need 512mb ram.. basic stuff (what's compatible??)
don't need a gfx card or sound card..
would need about a 200gig hd.. (should i get SATA?.. what's the difference?)
my biggest worry is the dvd-rw and tv card as i heard many are not compatible...
i would like a basic tv card that can take advantage of all of the built in msi features.. can anybody recommend one?
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all help appreciated,
scrappy.

you can't use high density ram in the 865 PRO - it wont boot.
SATA is the way of the future, might as well go for it. the only real difference at this stage is that the SATA cable is smaller, thinner and better for air flow. (I removed my extra IDE cable as I'm using SATA)
You shouldnt have any problems with DVD-RW.
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Mega 865 probs with 3.3v ...

uhm well ive got a brand new mega 865 and i thought kewl :P i mean it looks sweet and i like the hifi stuff etc etc
well so i started it up and the first day was fine.. second day it suddenly shutdown and stuff.. wel after taking out the power cable and leaving the pc for a while, it worked again and when i looked @ pcalert4 it said that my 3.3v was getting up to 3.9v etc.. and thats the reason why it was crashing..
now my question is obviously how do i stop ik crashing..
- is it because the power supply is 2 weak? (i dont think so seeing that msi delivers the power supply with the mega barebone)
- is it the psu ? coz i read about some1 having the same problem with the 3.3v and a mega barebone...
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p4 3.2ghz
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6800 LE
winxp sp1
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application hang of shareaza, msi pc alert, no really system applications
If your system is hanging while you are running, turn off PC Alert.
PC Alert Abuse:stop:
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When I boot now, I don't get anything on the screen and I get a series of beeps.
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I suppose there have been enough accounts about dead mobos due to Live Update failures, for MSI to take a notice of that...
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Restart Problem Fix for Mega 865

Just letting people know how I fixed my Mega 865 restart problems
my quick story
I built my 865 with 512RAM and installed XP MCE2005. The next day I installed a 1 GIG RAM chip and the system would not boot into XP. It would get to the windows boot screen and crash when loading the hard drive drivers.... or somewhere around there. couldnt even get into safe mode. I removed the Radeon 9800 and it booted. oh no could it be the AGP Card?
well I put it back in and tried every thing,
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reset BIOS
reset to Safe Settings BIOS
reset to Optimal BIOS
repair XP recovery console, fix MBR ...etc
then I the BIOS I tried dropping the AGP Aperature size from 64MB down to 8MB. It fixed the problem.
I'm guessing the issue is really one of power. the PSU is only 230w and with the extra ram stick, it had problems putting out enough power.
so I dropped the agp aperature down to 8MB (shouldnt matter as the card has 128MB and hopefully shouldnt need system RAM)
I also turned off the serial port (set it to disabled - who uses the serial port anyway)
and disabled the modem and network card (dont need the modem and I'm using the wireless card instead of the ethernet one)
hopefully turn these things off will prevent furthur power issues when running games and stuff.

the prescott core P4s are hot enough as it is, without squeezing a 3.2ghz in there, along with a hot GPU
i would recommend the northwood core P4, as they run cooler and are just as good as prescott P4s as tests have shown
and i would also advise you to search through this forum for topics about mega 180 heat issues; the issues will apply to all mega series, just seems to cause more of a problem with the 180, but most ideas will apply to 865
first thing to check is airflow, make sure that there are no cable looms in front of heatsink, obstructing airflow to the fan. bear in mind too that by default, the fan is already blowing hot air off the AGP card onto the heatsink (yes, poor design by MSI but it can be resolved apparently by "reversing" fan airflow).

Mega 865 wireless network problem.

Hi all,
New here and seeking a solution to a specific prob.
Have built a system from with a MSI Mega 865 Delux. P4 Chip, ATI all in wonder graphics/TV card, Maxstor 160 GB hDD.
System is specifically as a home entertainment/ video capture and record.
Problem with wireless networking.
I have a wireless network with three PCs all with USR wireless cards and a usr 8054 router which actually does little but extend the rance of the network, Internet connection is through host computer on a single channel ISDN line.
When I connect to the network with my Mega 865 (XP TO XP) the connection is massivly slow, in fact pages on the net refuse to load it is that slow.
The 865 is causing the host compiter to drop its connection to the router for about 50 % of the time, I can see its icon flashing red as the connection is dropped and returning to green as it reconnects.
It sounds like an incompatibility issue some where but I can't find anyone else with the same problems.
Any ideas anyone?
Thanks, Epirb.

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PS didn't I read somewhere else on this forum that SP2 is a bad idea with this machine?
To my knowledge, the SP2 caused trouble for Mega 865 if a certain type of P4 CPU was installed (Prescott?)
That was so because this sort of CPU requires some "alternative" microcode to be loaded into it upon startup.
One published workaround was to replace certain file in the SP2 package with its predecessor from SP1,
another (more solid, IMHO) - to upgrade the BIOS of PC so this revised microcode is loaded with BIOS. At this point in time, I believe, the revised Mega 865 BIOS is available as an official release.
You are right, the issue is only with certain processors; see also (this includes the m-soft workaround too)
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;885626
This revised bios is not available IMHO, one of our forum collegues managed to get a beta version of a new bios, which does the trick. If you need it give us a shout.
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MEGA 865 CD playback problem (in HiFi mode)

Hi, fellow MEGA PC owners
I have a problem with playing my CDs on MEGA 865 in HiFi mode. It recognizes the CD, plays the first track or two, then stops playing, displays SEARCHING message for a ten seconds or so and then switches to NODISC. When I press Eject button on the box or remote, it switches back to SEARCHING and shows the number of tracks on CD.
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MSI MEGA 865, P4 3.0 GHz Northwood, 1 Gb PC3200 RAM, NEC 2500A DVD burner.

Hey JavaDuke!
I've got the exact same problem with my Mega180, also running a NEC 2500A! And it is starting to get very annoying...
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"E:\ is not accessible.
The request could not be performed because of an I/O device error."
This happened with another SD card i have also.
1 of them is 256mb
the other 512mb
same issue with both cards.
anyone had any thing like this happen?
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Thank You . Sys Spec listed below if it help any.
Mega 865
Operating System   Microsoft Windows XP Professional
OS Service Pack   Service Pack 2
Motherboard
CPU Type   Intel Pentium 4HT, 3000 MHz (3.75 x 800)
Motherboard Chipset   Intel Springdale-G i865G
System Memory   1015 MB DUAL CHANNEL (DDR SDRAM) PC400
BIOS Type   Award (02/25/04)
Display
Video Adapter   Intel(R) 82865G Graphics Controller (96 MB)
3D Accelerator   Intel Extreme Graphics 2
Monitor   Sony SDM-HS73 LCD 17"
Multimedia
Audio Adapter   Intel 82801EB ICH5 - AC'97 Audio Controller
Storage
Disk Drive   Maxtor 6Y160M0 (160 GB, 7200 RPM, Serial-ATA/150)
Disk Drive   OEI-USB CompactFlash USB Device
Disk Drive   OEI-USB SM/MS/SD USB Device
Optical Drive   SONY DVD RW DW-D18A
Input
Keyboard   Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural PS/2 Keyboard
Mouse   HID-compliant mouse
Network
Primary IP Address   192.168.1.101
Primary MAC Address   00-0C-76-70-9C-12
Network Adapter   Broadcom 440x 10/100 Integrated Controller
Network Adapter   IEEE 802.11b MiniPCI Wireless Network Adapter (192.168.1.101)
Modem   Actiontec MDC AC'97 Modem v2132A
Peripherals
Printer   \\COMPUTER\hp deskjet 3500 series
USB Device   Motorola MPx220 Smartphone
USB Device   USB Human Interface Device
USB Device   USB Mass Storage Device

seems that the card reader wouldn't read SD cards, but was ok with MMC. i have replaced her combo drive with another Mitsumi one, and now both SD and MMC cards work fine. gonna try the faulty combo drive in my computer later, but i suspect it is a faulty card reader
EDIT: looks like i jumped the gun a bit - mum says the new drive is now doing the same thing trying her old one in this computer and so far all looks ok.
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