Non-leading ledger depreciation area posting depreciation expense at current exchange rate - need to be historical

Hi all,
We are facing an issue where we have a depreciation area "02" posting to our non-leading ledger. It is set to post depreciation only.
I noticed the depreciation expense is hitting the non-leading ledger and translating (CAD) into group currency (USD) at the current exchange rate. But in the leading ledger, the rate is historical.
How can we have the non-leading ledger post at historical exchange rates for depreciation postings?
thx..

Hi Jay,
Check the exchange rate type & translation date maintained for the non leading ledger in OB22.
Regards,
Mukthar

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