OAUG Responds to Oracle's Proposal

An Open Letter to Mark Jarvis and Ron Wohl
Mark, Ron
Thank you for setting out your proposal to the OAUG on AppsNet. It was useful to see it in writing, although, as you mentioned, it is largely similar to what was proposed and presented to our membership a year ago. As we had a teleconference a few hours before publication it would have been useful to have been given some advance notice of your plan to publish.
However as this has occurred I would like to clear up some errors and omissions in the document.
1. You state that the OAUG would select 100% of the user papers. You omit to mention that would represent 25% of the total conference content, and that 75% would therefore not be user papers (as explained to us in the conference call at 9am PST yesterday, Wednesday 23 May).
2. You state that no proposals were ever put forward by the OAUG board. In the 23 May conference call, just hours before your AppsNet posting, we had proposed that if you were able to support a Fall North American OAUG conference, we would be willing to collaborate with you in line with your proposals for the Spring in North America as well as in Europe and Asia Pacific.
3. You state that you would be required to take 200 developers out of development for a week of OAUG, and before you know it we would have 400 Oracle employees engaged in each conference. Perhaps you had forgotten that a few hours earlier we had indicated that the level of support that we were requesting for the Fall conference was development staff to cover 55 sessions. Given that the next two Fall OAUG events are on the West Coast, even with travel and preparation time this represents about 120 people days, rather than the 2800 employee weeks that you refer to.
4. Twice you state that there are going to be seven conferences in the next twelve months, and refer to four OAUG conferences. When you asked on the conference call if we would participate with you in Europe, we said yes, we would. When you asked where our venue was for Europe next year, we told you that in light of the current situation we had released it. When we discussed Asia Pacific we told you that we intended to hold our conference in Sydney, but that we did not believe that it would affect your conference in Singapore which is several months and several thousand miles away. We agreed that we would be willing to discuss the model in Asia Pacific with you, as you had indicated the possibility of an alternative style event. We were not clear how that would work. In addition, given our willingness to discuss the North American model, you were well aware that seven conferences in the next twelve months was most unlikely.
5. You stated that for the past five years a majority of Oracle employees attending and staffing OAUG conferences were required to pay full attendance. I dont propose to count, but for the record, approximately sixty were free, any Oracle presenters above the sixty were free, and the conference workers paid a reduced rate to cover the costs involved, such as food. Any others who decided to attend did indeed have to pay.
It is hard for us to understand why it has been so difficult to bring this issue to closure. The OAUG Board understands that once Oracle had committed to its AppsWorld events for Spring 2001 that you were too busy to meet with us to discuss a longer term resolution, for example when we proposed a meeting with you in January. It was unfortunate that you were unable to meet the target date of meeting in March after your conference. We were pleased that we finally met on 30 April, and that we appeared to be making some progress in identifying issues and seeking to resolve them. It was disappointing that you had to postpone the agreed follow up meeting from the first week in May to 23 May, and that only then were you able to inform us that you had a deadline for just a week later.
We had sought to avoid going into details on the discussions in public, as we felt that might jeopardise progress. I am not clear what your purpose was in doing so. We continue to be disappointed by Oracles inability to compromise, and that after all of this time, this proposal so closely resembles the original proposal made last year. I would like to make quite clear what the OAUG has offered, and the flexibility that we have shown in being willing to move from the existing, successful model, to try to accommodate your valid needs to reach a wider audience.
The OAUG has proposed that :
7 The OAUG would be willing to collaborate with Oracle on their AppsWorld events in North America, if in return Oracle would participate in the OAUGs independent Fall North American conference to the extent of approximately sixty development staff.
7 The OAUG, in line with the majority of feedback received from European users, would be willing to collaborate with Oracle on their AppsWorld event in Europe.
7 The OAUG, after the Sydney Asia Pacific event which we have committed to in 2001, would be willing to collaborate with Oracle in their AppsWorld event in Asia Pacific, subject to clarification as to the form of that event.
I believe that is a more than reasonable proposal.
Given that Oracle decided to move these discussions into the public arena, that they did so in such an extensive way just a few hours after a discussion with the OAUG, and without giving any advance warning, I am forced to wonder whether Oracle are really negotiating in good faith in this matter
The OAUG has always stood for the independent voice of the user community. We have received consistent and clear feedback from our members that they wish have a forum for education and feedback which is, and can clearly be seen to be, independent from the Oracle message. We recognise Oracles marketing needs, and believe that our proposed compromise meets those needs, and the stated needs of existing users. If Oracle really had the interests of the users at heart it would not behave in this way. However such behaviour by Oracle only goes to reinforce the importance and value of a truly independent users group.
Jeremy Young
OAUG President
null

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OAUG Responds to Oracle Proposal

An Open Letter to Mark Jarvis and Ron Wohl
Mark, Ron
Thank you for setting out your proposal to the OAUG on AppsNet. It was useful to see it in writing, although, as you mentioned, it is largely similar to what was proposed and presented to our membership a year ago. As we had a teleconference a few hours before publication it would have been useful to have been given some advance notice of your plan to publish.
However as this has occurred I would like to clear up some errors and omissions in the document.
1. You state that the OAUG would select 100% of the user papers. You omit to mention that would represent 25% of the total conference content, and that 75% would therefore not be user papers (as explained to us in the conference call at 9am PST yesterday, Wednesday 23 May).
2. You state that no proposals were ever put forward by the OAUG board. In the 23 May conference call, just hours before your AppsNet posting, we had proposed that if you were able to support a Fall North American OAUG conference, we would be willing to collaborate with you in line with your proposals for the Spring in North America as well as in Europe and Asia Pacific.
3. You state that you would be required to take 200 developers out of development for a week of OAUG, and before you know it we would have 400 Oracle employees engaged in each conference. Perhaps you had forgotten that a few hours earlier we had indicated that the level of support that we were requesting for the Fall conference was development staff to cover 55 sessions. Given that the next two Fall OAUG events are on the West Coast, even with travel and preparation time this represents about 120 people days, rather than the 2800 employee weeks that you refer to.
4. Twice you state that there are going to be seven conferences in the next twelve months, and refer to four OAUG conferences. When you asked on the conference call if we would participate with you in Europe, we said yes, we would. When you asked where our venue was for Europe next year, we told you that in light of the current situation we had released it. When we discussed Asia Pacific we told you that we intended to hold our conference in Sydney, but that we did not believe that it would affect your conference in Singapore which is several months and several thousand miles away. We agreed that we would be willing to discuss the model in Asia Pacific with you, as you had indicated the possibility of an alternative style event. We were not clear how that would work. In addition, given our willingness to discuss the North American model, you were well aware that seven conferences in the next twelve months was most unlikely.
5. You stated that for the past five years a majority of Oracle employees attending and staffing OAUG conferences were required to pay full attendance. I dont propose to count, but for the record, approximately sixty were free, any Oracle presenters above the sixty were free, and the conference workers paid a reduced rate to cover the costs involved, such as food. Any others who decided to attend did indeed have to pay.
It is hard for us to understand why it has been so difficult to bring this issue to closure. The OAUG Board understands that once Oracle had committed to its AppsWorld events for Spring 2001 that you were too busy to meet with us to discuss a longer term resolution, for example when we proposed a meeting with you in January. It was unfortunate that you were unable to meet the target date of meeting in March after your conference. We were pleased that we finally met on 30 April, and that we appeared to be making some progress in identifying issues and seeking to resolve them. It was disappointing that you had to postpone the agreed follow up meeting from the first week in May to 23 May, and that only then were you able to inform us that you had a deadline for just a week later.
We had sought to avoid going into details on the discussions in public, as we felt that might jeopardise progress. I am not clear what your purpose was in doing so. We continue to be disappointed by Oracles inability to compromise, and that after all of this time, this proposal so closely resembles the original proposal made last year. I would like to make quite clear what the OAUG has offered, and the flexibility that we have shown in being willing to move from the existing, successful model, to try to accommodate your valid needs to reach a wider audience.
The OAUG has proposed that :
7 The OAUG would be willing to collaborate with Oracle on their AppsWorld events in North America, if in return Oracle would participate in the OAUGs independent Fall North American conference to the extent of approximately sixty development staff.
7 The OAUG, in line with the majority of feedback received from European users, would be willing to collaborate with Oracle on their AppsWorld event in Europe.
7 The OAUG, after the Sydney Asia Pacific event which we have committed to in 2001, would be willing to collaborate with Oracle in their AppsWorld event in Asia Pacific, subject to clarification as to the form of that event.
I believe that is a more than reasonable proposal.
Given that Oracle decided to move these discussions into the public arena, that they did so in such an extensive way just a few hours after a discussion with the OAUG, and without giving any advance warning, I am forced to wonder whether Oracle are really negotiating in good faith in this matter
The OAUG has always stood for the independent voice of the user community. We have received consistent and clear feedback from our members that they wish have a forum for education and feedback which is, and can clearly be seen to be, independent from the Oracle message. We recognise Oracles marketing needs, and believe that our proposed compromise meets those needs, and the stated needs of existing users. If Oracle really had the interests of the users at heart it would not behave in this way. However such behaviour by Oracle only goes to reinforce the importance and value of a truly independent users group.
Jeremy Young
OAUG President
null

An Open Letter to Mark Jarvis and Ron Wohl
Mark, Ron
Thank you for setting out your proposal to the OAUG on AppsNet. It was useful to see it in writing, although, as you mentioned, it is largely similar to what was proposed and presented to our membership a year ago. As we had a teleconference a few hours before publication it would have been useful to have been given some advance notice of your plan to publish.
However as this has occurred I would like to clear up some errors and omissions in the document.
1. You state that the OAUG would select 100% of the user papers. You omit to mention that would represent 25% of the total conference content, and that 75% would therefore not be user papers (as explained to us in the conference call at 9am PST yesterday, Wednesday 23 May).
2. You state that no proposals were ever put forward by the OAUG board. In the 23 May conference call, just hours before your AppsNet posting, we had proposed that if you were able to support a Fall North American OAUG conference, we would be willing to collaborate with you in line with your proposals for the Spring in North America as well as in Europe and Asia Pacific.
3. You state that you would be required to take 200 developers out of development for a week of OAUG, and before you know it we would have 400 Oracle employees engaged in each conference. Perhaps you had forgotten that a few hours earlier we had indicated that the level of support that we were requesting for the Fall conference was development staff to cover 55 sessions. Given that the next two Fall OAUG events are on the West Coast, even with travel and preparation time this represents about 120 people days, rather than the 2800 employee weeks that you refer to.
4. Twice you state that there are going to be seven conferences in the next twelve months, and refer to four OAUG conferences. When you asked on the conference call if we would participate with you in Europe, we said yes, we would. When you asked where our venue was for Europe next year, we told you that in light of the current situation we had released it. When we discussed Asia Pacific we told you that we intended to hold our conference in Sydney, but that we did not believe that it would affect your conference in Singapore which is several months and several thousand miles away. We agreed that we would be willing to discuss the model in Asia Pacific with you, as you had indicated the possibility of an alternative style event. We were not clear how that would work. In addition, given our willingness to discuss the North American model, you were well aware that seven conferences in the next twelve months was most unlikely.
5. You stated that for the past five years a majority of Oracle employees attending and staffing OAUG conferences were required to pay full attendance. I dont propose to count, but for the record, approximately sixty were free, any Oracle presenters above the sixty were free, and the conference workers paid a reduced rate to cover the costs involved, such as food. Any others who decided to attend did indeed have to pay.
It is hard for us to understand why it has been so difficult to bring this issue to closure. The OAUG Board understands that once Oracle had committed to its AppsWorld events for Spring 2001 that you were too busy to meet with us to discuss a longer term resolution, for example when we proposed a meeting with you in January. It was unfortunate that you were unable to meet the target date of meeting in March after your conference. We were pleased that we finally met on 30 April, and that we appeared to be making some progress in identifying issues and seeking to resolve them. It was disappointing that you had to postpone the agreed follow up meeting from the first week in May to 23 May, and that only then were you able to inform us that you had a deadline for just a week later.
We had sought to avoid going into details on the discussions in public, as we felt that might jeopardise progress. I am not clear what your purpose was in doing so. We continue to be disappointed by Oracles inability to compromise, and that after all of this time, this proposal so closely resembles the original proposal made last year. I would like to make quite clear what the OAUG has offered, and the flexibility that we have shown in being willing to move from the existing, successful model, to try to accommodate your valid needs to reach a wider audience.
The OAUG has proposed that :
7 The OAUG would be willing to collaborate with Oracle on their AppsWorld events in North America, if in return Oracle would participate in the OAUGs independent Fall North American conference to the extent of approximately sixty development staff.
7 The OAUG, in line with the majority of feedback received from European users, would be willing to collaborate with Oracle on their AppsWorld event in Europe.
7 The OAUG, after the Sydney Asia Pacific event which we have committed to in 2001, would be willing to collaborate with Oracle in their AppsWorld event in Asia Pacific, subject to clarification as to the form of that event.
I believe that is a more than reasonable proposal.
Given that Oracle decided to move these discussions into the public arena, that they did so in such an extensive way just a few hours after a discussion with the OAUG, and without giving any advance warning, I am forced to wonder whether Oracle are really negotiating in good faith in this matter
The OAUG has always stood for the independent voice of the user community. We have received consistent and clear feedback from our members that they wish have a forum for education and feedback which is, and can clearly be seen to be, independent from the Oracle message. We recognise Oracles marketing needs, and believe that our proposed compromise meets those needs, and the stated needs of existing users. If Oracle really had the interests of the users at heart it would not behave in this way. However such behaviour by Oracle only goes to reinforce the importance and value of a truly independent users group.
Jeremy Young
OAUG President
null

Agent issue:Oracle keeps proposing enlarging the memory of the java stack

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Oracle proposed the sol- "Oracle keeps proposing enlarging the memory of the java stack " The sol worked for few days and again facing the same issue. One of the
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MDB not responding after Oracle AQ restart

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The bean works as expected until I stop and then start the database AQ (i.e. disable enqueue and dequeue via the management console or PL/SQL). Once the queue has been restarted the bean no longer receives any messages from the AQs. If I subsequently restart the container the MDB starts to process the messages from the queue.
I have deployed this application using two environments (Windows 2000) and Sun Solaris 64 [both running version 10g 9.0.4 of the OC4J container and a 9.2.0.4 database) ] however the application behaves exactly the same on either platform.
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I seem to able to get to it. FYI, I culled this from that doc:
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connection-factory-location=
"java:comp/resource/cartojms1/TopicConnectionFactories/aqTcf"
destination-location=
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Graphing engine is not responding. in OBIEE 11.1.1.6

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I did install OBIEE 11.1.1.6 and publised my earlier 'RPD & Catalog' (of version 11.1.1.5).
On dashboard, some of the graphs are not visible and having the following error message:
Graphing engine is not responding.
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[2012-04-18T16:42:57.000+05:30] [OBIPS] [WARNING:16] [] [saw.views.dashboard] [ecid: e954e2debf424ae0:-5b4b1342:136bffa36fe:-8000-000000000000b6ad,0:1] [tid: 4264] 11g xml data incompatibility: object queryitem1 at /shared/Uptime Clock Monthly requires upgrade. Admin needs to rerun upgrade, or remove the object, or fix the object's xml manually. If problem persists, please contact technical support.[[
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Dhar,
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[2012-04-19T15:26:00.000+05:30] [OBIPS] [ERROR:16] [] [saw.rpc.mis.read] [ecid: e954e2debf424ae0:-5b4b1342:136bffa36fe:-8000-0000000000011b26,0:1:7] [tid: 3996] RPCServer returned a error: Error while executing DVTChartRpcCall.processMessage
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Line:472
Location:
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Hi All,
When i select Currency column in my report graph displaying bellow error.otherwise it is working fine.
I selected data format is currency and symbol is $.
Graphing engine is not responding.
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Installing oracle 10g on windows vista business

will i be able to install oracle 10g on Windows Vista business? Please respond me.

Oracle 10.2.0.3 is certified on Vista
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XML support in Oracle 8i

Hi,
I have a requirement of storing XML documents in the Oracle
database. As Oracle claims support for XML in Oracle 8i, I would
be thankful if the following questions could be answered.
There will be around 15000 or more XML documents generated
annually, each of around 200 pages . Various views of the same
XML instance will be shown to different customers depending on
their preferences. All views will be generated dynamically and
the results will be sent as HTML pages to the client or XML
instances which will then be manipulated and shown as required
on the clients machine.
Please bear with me in case a few questions are naive
Questions :
1) Does Oracle 8i propose to have XML as a new datatype
2) Does a document descriptor mean the mapping of the XML
elements to certain columns in an Oracle table? Does it have
anything to do with the DTD? Will an XML instance be mapped to a
single table only or across multiple tables in a master-detail
relationship as the heirarchy in the instance gets too complex ?
3) How will the ConText cartridge be able to identify XML
documents? How will the queries be written to enable 'element-
level' searching?
4)What is iFS , especially in relation to XML storage?
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Kedar Sadekar (guest) wrote:
: 1) Does Oracle 8i propose to have XML as a new datatype
Not at this time.
: 2) Does a document descriptor mean the mapping of the XML
: elements to certain columns in an Oracle table? Does it have
: anything to do with the DTD? Will an XML instance be mapped to
:a single table only or across multiple tables in a master-detail
: relationship as the heirarchy in the instance gets too complex?
A Document Descriptor is basicly a mapping between a DTD and the
tables and columns in the RDBMS. More that one table can be
mapped to.
: 3) How will the ConText cartridge be able to identify XML
: documents? How will the queries be written to enable 'element-
: level' searching?
Context, now interMedia Text, does not 'identify' XML documents
per se, but can index colums with imbedded XML and search the
contents between specified tags.
: 4)What is iFS , especially in relation to XML storage?
Check out http://www.oracle.com/xml/documents/xml_twp/ for a
complete description.
Oracle XML Team
http://technet.oracle.com
Oracle Technology Network
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Can we *_PLEASE_* have a .sig for Oracle forums?

I have requested this before and I will go on doing so (every year, I suppose)
until the people at Oracle listen.
Why - OH WHY* can we not have a 5 line .sig for our posts to this forum?
I am blue in the face from trying to tell people to put
Software - DB Server version - OS (+ version)
Hardware - CPU config - Disk config
into their posts re. Oracle databases and running/tuning queries &c.
Please support my campaign - SOS - (Start Our .Sig!!!) NOW*
Paul...

Paulie wrote:
>
Paulie wrote:
Please include all of the following information with database queries.
Software - OS (+ version), Server,
Hardware - CPU + Disk configuration.
In order to adequately respond, you really should be collecting an RDA <g>. A Recursive Decision Algorithm? Or
a Relational Distributed Architecture? Possibly
a Random Duplicate Allocation?
I think you probably mean a Requirement Development Analysis?
No. I mean the Remote Diagnostic Agent output. The one that you are asked to submit with an Oracle Support technical Service Request.
Surely you are aware of the Support requirement for that information.
>
At the very least you should get both client Maybe I'm just incredibly naive - I start by assuming
that the client can connect with the server... having
said that, I appreciate that there can be compatibility
issues.
I ain't talking about compatibilty. Having a 'I gonna be an Oracle guru'-type tell you that he's installed the Oracle client on XP Home and has no idea what a firewall is can be useful troubleshooting infomation.
And then there is the "I can't get Forms 4.0 to connect to my 11g database" challenge.
>
and server OS (including family, edition, version I'll go with this.
and patch level ), Patch level? I don't think the .sig should be longer than
the post - If the debate starts to have to get to the level
of patch level, then it's gone way beyond the scope
of a .sig.
The vast majority* of problems IMHO aren't related
to patches, but are (normally) far simpler than that!
Knowing whether the user is at 10.2.0.1 or 10.2.0.4 is not important to you? Knowing whether the user is running Windows XP Pro SP2 or SP3 is not important? WHether the database is on XP Home or Vista Bliss and Pleasure Edtion could be as uninterestinng as whether the user has updated to the latest WIndows Defender.
>
>
Oracle product (you are assuming database, but ...)Well, database would be my interest area, and I normally only post
to those fora!
And the rest of us are schmucks? <g>
>
Memory config might be more important than disk, especially
if looking at Java issues, and that includes any OEM issues.Well, yes, obviously RAM would come into the equation - I would
have thought that would be under the rubric of Hardware.
SGA and PGA are memory configurations. In Linux and Unix, the SHMEM and SEM parameters are memory config. Last time I looked they were not part of hardware.
Knowing whether the user has 1G of RAM and the hardware steaks 512M of that for video could also be useful. But is that hardware or software? The typical newb gonna tell you "but my machine has 1GB RAM".
>
You may want to simpily by setting up a blog with your rant (a bit
like mine at http://hansforbrich.blogspot.com/2008/07/
why-do-they-always-ask-for-version.html) and just linking your sig to the blog.The problem with links is that those who don't bother to read
forum guidelines are even less likely to bother to go further and
follow a link before posting - though I will, myself, certainly be
casting an eye over yours from time to time.
The problem with ranting in .sigs is that people will ignore that.
If you look very carefully, 99% of the problems in the forums come from people who don't read AT ALL. It doesn't matter whether you use a .sig (I used 'em foir years in CDOS) or provide a link.
Seems like many of those who have trouble and turn to the forums go deaf, dumb, blind and schtoopyd, just when the most important tools they need are reading and thinking.
>
Rgs.
Paul...Do takie my response with a grain of salt. It has more to do with Devil's Advocate and what feels like twenty-umpteen-two years of responding to Oracle questions. And using .sigs even back in my Compuserve days ealy to mid 90s.
/Hans
(aka Fuzzy Greybeard)

Oracle Lite / Jdeveloper 3.1 / oljdbc40 URGENT

Hello,
I am trying to demonstrate that it's possible to develop with jdeveloper 3.1, using Oracle Lite.
But when I try to open a connection with the POLite sample base (using the business components projet wizard), after having configured jdeveloper for Oracle Lite as mentioned in the release notes (libraries), I allways get the following message:
"oljdbc40 not found in java.library.path"
I tried to copy oljdbc40.dll to "jdk_root"\jre\bin and "jdk_root"\bin;
I have installed the patch 400214.
Why can't I get success to this connection?
French Oracle support proposed me to download Jdeveloper 3.1, what I did with a lot of patience (very difficult to access have the connections).
All what I have tried (I hane spent some full days now on it) didn't lead to any result... An other remark: the problem seems to be identical on Windows NT and windows 98.
Could anyone help me now, if possible urgently, because I have now to present something working to the other members of this project team.
I thank the person who will get me out of this blocking problem very warmly in advance, and hope there is a working solution for that... Sincerely. Alain T.S.

I'm getting EXACTLY the same problem.
Installation order was :
JDeveloper 3.0
Oracle 8I Lite
Jdeveloper 3.1
Please assit
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by alaints (Alain Ter Sakarian):
Hello,
I am trying to demonstrate that it's possible to develop with jdeveloper 3.1, using Oracle Lite.
But when I try to open a connection with the POLite sample base (using the business components projet wizard), after having configured jdeveloper for Oracle Lite as mentioned in the release notes (libraries), I allways get the following message:
"oljdbc40 not found in java.library.path"
I tried to copy oljdbc40.dll to "jdk_root"\jre\bin and "jdk_root"\bin;
I have installed the patch 400214.
Why can't I get success to this connection?
French Oracle support proposed me to download Jdeveloper 3.1, what I did with a lot of patience (very difficult to access have the connections).
All what I have tried (I hane spent some full days now on it) didn't lead to any result... An other remark: the problem seems to be identical on Windows NT and windows 98.
Could anyone help me now, if possible urgently, because I have now to present something working to the other members of this project team.
I thank the person who will get me out of this blocking problem very warmly in advance, and hope there is a working solution for that... Sincerely. Alain T.S. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
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NEWS: Oracle to open-source TopLink in Eclipse

TopLink Forum users,
Oracle has proposed the creation of the Eclipse Persistence Platform project in Eclipse to deliver a comprehensive persistence platform. Oracle will lead this open source project and will contribute the source and test cases of its successful Oracle TopLink product to provide a starting point for the project.
Oracle will continue to deliver its award winning Oracle TopLink product, offer support, and enhance its capabilities to meet the needs of customers. Oracle TopLink will be built on the Eclipse Persistence Platform and will extend it with advanced integration into the Oracle Application Server.
Read the Press Release and the FAQ for more information.
I thought it would be best to also announce it here on this forum so that any additional questions or concerns not addressed by the FAQ can be discussed.
Doug

Does this mean that the Eclipse foundation will have
a say in the future roadmap of Oracle Toplink or will
Oracle continue to drive the roadmap ?The road map will be a developed in public as is done on all open source projects with input from the community. Typically the project team will come up with a road map that they put out for review and it's refined based on feedback. This is what we've been doing on the Eclipse Dali JPA Tools project.
--Shaun

Regarding graph in obiee 11g

Hi All,
i have some reports that has graph. in that graphs some graph is coming and some is not coming
and giving error shown below.
Graphing engine is not responding.
A fatal error occurred while processing the request. The server responded with: oracle.bi.nanserver.fwk.exception.BISvsException: java.lang.NumberFormatException: For input string: "05:30".
i have checked the services all are up and running.
please help me to solve the problem.

Issue was, Font been defined as 7.5 (may be font size decimal not supported ).the problem solved

Getting error in graph

I am working with a multi Subject Area data set. I wanted to add a conditional format to a graph I built but the graph is returning an error.
From the Edit Graph page.
1) Edit Graph Properties
2) Style Tab
3) Style and Conditional Formating link
4) Conditional Formating tab
5) Adding a condition for the Y axis value
example: Value < 120 then Green color.
6) ok back out to main graph page.
Error Message Displayed:
Graphing engine is not responding.
A fatal error occurred while processing the request. The server responded with: oracle.bi.nanserver.fwk.exception.BISvsException: java.lang.String cannot be cast to java.lang.Double.
any one help out on this..
Thanks in advance
Siva.

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OBIEE 11g (11.1.1.6) Agent Error : Error Codes: AGEGTYVF

Hi Team,
I have migrated an application from OBIEE 10g (10.1.3.4)
I am facing an error in some of the iBots (Agents) migrated to 11g. Is it related to any Oracle Bug??
I am using 11.1.1.6.0 in a Windows Server 2008 R2 Standard machine.
Here is the error detail:
Eventually succeeded, but encountered and resolved errors...
Number of skipped recipients: 1 of 2
[nQSError: 77006] Oracle BI Presentation Server Error: A fatal error occurred while processing the request. The server responded with: A fatal error occurred while processing the request. The server responded with: oracle.xdo.template.fo.area.TableArea cannot be cast to oracle.xdo.template.fo.area.TableBody.
Error Codes: AGEGTYVF
Location: saw.rpc.mis.read, saw.subsystem.portal.pdf, saw.delivers.rpc.getDeviceContent, saw.rpc.server.responder, saw.rpc.server, saw.rpc.server.handleConnection, saw.rpc.server.dispatch, saw.threadpool.socketrpcserver, saw.threads
Error Codes: AGEGTYVF
AgentID: /users/administrator/Agents/Daily Reports
...Trying Agent Get Response Content loop again.... Sleeping for 8 seconds.[nQSError: 77006] Oracle BI Presentation Server Error: A fatal error occurred while processing the request. The server responded with: A fatal error occurred while processing the request. The server responded with: oracle.xdo.template.fo.area.TableArea cannot be cast to oracle.xdo.template.fo.area.TableBody.
Error Codes: AGEGTYVF
Location: saw.rpc.mis.read, saw.subsystem.portal.pdf, saw.delivers.rpc.getDeviceContent, saw.rpc.server.responder, saw.rpc.server, saw.rpc.server.handleConnection, saw.rpc.server.dispatch, saw.threadpool.socketrpcserver, saw.threads
Error Codes: AGEGTYVF
AgentID: /users/administrator/Agents/Daily Reports
...Trying Agent Get Response Content loop again.... Sleeping for 4 seconds.[nQSError: 77006] Oracle BI Presentation Server Error: A fatal error occurred while processing the request. The server responded with: A fatal error occurred while processing the request. The server responded with: oracle.xdo.template.fo.area.TableArea cannot be cast to oracle.xdo.template.fo.area.TableBody.
Error Codes: AGEGTYVF
Location: saw.rpc.mis.read, saw.subsystem.portal.pdf, saw.delivers.rpc.getDeviceContent, saw.rpc.server.responder, saw.rpc.server, saw.rpc.server.handleConnection, saw.rpc.server.dispatch, saw.threadpool.socketrpcserver, saw.threads
Error Codes: AGEGTYVF
AgentID: /users/administrator/Agents/Daily Reports
Exceeded number of request retries for method GetResponseContent.
-Pratim

Hi,
What resolution you had applied to resolve this issue?
Please share resolution with me as i am also facing. the agent is working file if select Excel,html etc.. the error with if i select PDF format.
Thank you,

Apex use in the enterprise?

Any Apex experts care to respond to the list of advantages / disadvantages that we have come up with - while doing due diligence for potential rollout of Apex as a development platform for the enterprise?
Many thanks in advance.
Please note that we know little to nothing about Apex. But we do know the database. I have read other threads in this forum where it is mentioned that all database utilites (dbms_*) are available to be used in apex - and this is a major plus point - agreed. Do know that metalink is apex based.
Would love to have oracle apex developers respond.
Oracle Application Express Architecture - Due Diligence
Advantages
(1)     RAD development for data centric Web applications.
(2)     Out of box support for some HTML page templates. For example, sort, search, save data to CSV, ...
(3)     Reduce required skill sets for PL/SQL developers on web application development.
(4)     Performance boost on a small scale non-enterprise Web applications.
(5)     Single vendor within integrated Oracle administration environment.
(6)     Out of box charting and reporting supports.
Disadvantages
(1)     Application operates within Oracle instance which imposes considerable resource overheads due to HTTP session tracking and JVM environment.
(2)     APEX supports through discussion forum not a formal support channel.
(3)     This two tier non-SOA data centric configuration requires high end machines to power up Oracle instances for mission critical applications. N-tier SOA architecture can easily scale up and scale out by using economic efficient hardware.
(4)     A non-traditional security configuration requires either database accounts or APEX accounts.
(5)     It requires very specific skill sets if future application enhancements does not fall into out of box APEX templates.
(6)     Single Sign On (SSO) requires add-on SDK which makes it quite difficult and sometimes impossible to integrate with other applications.
(7)     It operates under Oracle HTTP server with J2EE environment. This requires a different technology expertise for performance tuning.
(8)     APEX application is vendor specific and offers no portability at all.
Summary
(1)     APEX is targeted to replace MS Access like applications to provide better security, scalability and stability.
(2)     APEX is well suited for web RAD development by DBAs.
(3)     APEX is suited for data centric application such as maintain some database records….
(4)     APEX is not suited for provisioning services.
(5)     APEX is not suited for high volume transaction Web applications.
(6)     APEX is not suited for any applications required LDAP typed security or SSO.
(7)     APEX does not provide any portability outside of Oracle.

I think you need to review some of these comments..
Any Apex experts care to respond to the list of
advantages / disadvantages that we have come up with
- while doing due diligence for potential rollout of
Apex as a development platform for the enterprise?
Many thanks in advance.
Please note that we know little to nothing about
Apex. But we do know the database. I have read other
threads in this forum where it is mentioned that all
database utilites (dbms_*) are available to be used
in apex - and this is a major plus point - agreed. Do
know that metalink is apex based.
Would love to have oracle apex developers respond.
Oracle Application Express Architecture - Due
Diligence
Advantages
(1)     RAD development for data centric Web
applications.
(2)     Out of box support for some HTML page templates.
For example, sort, search, save data to CSV, ...
(3)     Reduce required skill sets for PL/SQL developers
on web application development.
(4)     Performance boost on a small scale non-enterprise
Web applications.
(5)     Single vendor within integrated Oracle
administration environment.
(6)     Out of box charting and reporting supports.
Disadvantages
(1)     Application operates within Oracle instance which
imposes considerable resource overheads due to HTTP
session tracking and JVM environment.What exactly is the point in this comment? APEX applications run in the database, they do NOT rely on the JVM...
(2)     APEX supports through discussion forum not a
formal support channel.APEX DOES get support from the standard Oracle tech support. However, I would think it is faster to post a message HERE and get a response from the actual developers of the product than having to go through channels..
(3)     This two tier non-SOA data centric configuration
requires high end machines to power up Oracle
instances for mission critical applications. N-tier
SOA architecture can easily scale up and scale out by
using economic efficient hardware.However hearty a db server you have now should suffice for using APEX. YOu are in reality running SQL statements against the database.
(4)     A non-traditional security configuration requires
either database accounts or APEX accounts.NOT TRUE. Please review documents again.. YOu can BUILD internal security in application, or rely on LDAP or Single Sign on from Oracle..
(5)     It requires very specific skill sets if future
application enhancements does not fall into out of
box APEX templates.HTML and CSS development skills. If you develop web sites, you should be comfortable with this..
(6)     Single Sign On (SSO) requires add-on SDK which
makes it quite difficult and sometimes impossible to
integrate with other applications.Wrong here again. Please refer to documentation.
(7)     It operates under Oracle HTTP server with J2EE
environment. This requires a different technology
expertise for performance tuning.Sorry, what again?
(8)     APEX application is vendor specific and offers no
portability at all.Unlike ASP or ASP.NET from M$? Or what vendor independent products are you thinking of? Pearl? Ruby on Rails? APEX RUNS in the database, so you'd think it just MIGHT be specific to an Oracle database and Oracle product..
>
>
Summary
(1)     APEX is targeted to replace MS Access like
applications to provide better security, scalability
and stability.More than that actually..
(2)     APEX is well suited for web RAD development by
DBAs.NOT Even close.. Developers DO use it.. DBA's support the database end..
(3)     APEX is suited for data centric application such
as maintain some database records….Not even going to try and get into this.. Data centric applications? What would a non data centric application be again?
(4)     APEX is not suited for provisioning services.Explain this one, please..
(5)     APEX is not suited for high volume transaction
Web applications.Hmm, you mean like Oracle Metalink? Or Ask Tom? These ARE high traffic sites, and gooly gee, they ARE built using APEX..
(6)     APEX is not suited for any applications required
LDAP typed security or SSO.Wrong here, please read the documentation.
(7)     APEX does not provide any portability outside of
Oracle.And how could it, it is based in the database.....
Shesh, does that mean because I can't use a fishing pole to catch deer it has no purpose?
Tony Miller
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