Offline Vs detach

So I wanted to move the mdf and ldf for a specfic database to a new file location.
I detached the database and then tried to copy the mdf to the new location.
Access denied.
I am domain admin, SA and had run windows explorer "as administrator" while RDP'd to the sql server instance.
I then reattched the DB (keeping the original path info obviously) and then took the DB offline and then detached.
This time I was able to move the mdf to the new file location without permission issues. I then reattched the DB using the new file location.
So my question is, if detaching a database removes its registration with SQL Server, why was I not able to move the MDF?
What difference did taking it offline before the detach/attach make in this regard?

So my question is, if detaching a database removes its registration with SQL Server, why was I not able to move the MDF?
What difference did taking it offline before the detach/attach make in this regard?
As per what you say you were able to detach database but access denied message came while copying it  ?
Detaching a database removes it from the instance of SQL Server but leaves the database intact within its data files and transaction log files. These files can then be used to attach the database to any instance of SQL Server, including the server from which
the database was detached.
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    ---------------------------------------snap--------------------------------------------
    Useless to say that the database based on this ASM instance terminates with complaints about non-readable controlfiles and so on.
    It has been no problem to re-start the ASM- and DB-Instance after this happened. So no persistent damage was done, but I find it widely alarming. Has anybody an idea, or can explain, what Oracle does here?
    Thanks in advance,
    Martin Klier

    Hi,
    it seem we have found the solution of this problem, it has been a whole bunch of trouble:
    - First of all, the interconnect should never be a crossover cable. Oracle said so in the official RAC FAQ, and they describe as reason why not: "b) Instability. We have seen different problems e.g.. ORA-29740 at configurations using crossover cable, and other errors." I had known, but the errors just appeared weeks after the switchover to crossover cabling.
    - The ASM-used devices / raw devices MUST be owned by oracle:oinstall (or :dba depending on the setup), if they are owned by root:disk (with oracle as a memeber of disk) it complains - the ASM instance does exactly the error above.
    - Having this fixed, I always got an error ORA-27041 but without "Global Resource Directory partially frozen". The system worked fine, but on every start of ASM the error was logged. Solution: provide an ASM_DISKSTRING parameter, in order to prevent ASM trying to use other (maybe CRS-used) raw devices than its own.
    The stuff took away three weeks of my life and a bunch of hair :)
    Martin

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