OKB9 - Clarification

Hi,
In OKB9 for one cost element i defined valuation area is mandatory in account assignment detail.
By double clicking on detail per business area/valuation level i given valuation area wise cost centers.
In the initail screen we have field of cost center (next to business area check box) here also we gave the cost center.
Now my doubt is : For one cost element we specified cost center in the initial screen and also maintained valuation area wise cost center.
When system will consider the cost center maintained in the initial screen. If system is not able to identify the cost center in combination of valuation area.
Is it correct?
Regards,
Sankar

Hi Sankar,
This is correct.
In case system is not able to find any valuation specific cost center, then it will pick the cost center from the initial screen.
E.g.
Cost Cener on Initial Screen = ABC
Valuation Area 1000 = Cost Center XYZ
Valuation Area 2000 = Cost Center PQR
In above setting, for valuation area 100 it will pick XYZ and for 2000 it will pick PQR
For all other valuation area and blank valuation area, it will pick ABC
Regards,
Gaurav

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Q3. When I enabled real time apply does that mean, that I am not in 'MANAGED' mode anymore? Is there an un-managed mode also?
Q4. After the switchover, I have noticed that the MRP0 process is "APPLYING LOG" status to a sequence# which is not even the latest sequence# as per v$archived_log. By this I mean:-
SQL> SELECT PROCESS, STATUS, THREAD#, SEQUENCE#, BLOCK#, BLOCKS,FROM V$MANAGED_STANDBY;
MRP0 APPLYING_LOG 1 47 452 1024000
but :
SQL> select max(sequence#) from v$archived_log;
46
Why is that? Also I have noticed that one of the sequence#s is NOT applied but the later ones are:-
SQL> SELECT SEQUENCE#,APPLIED FROM V$ARCHIVED_LOG ORDER BY SEQUENCE#;
42 NO
43 YES
44 YES
45 YES
46 YES
What could be the possible reasons why sequence# 42 didn't get applied but the others did?
After reading several documents I am confused at this stage because I have read that you can setup standby databases using 'standby' logs but is there another method without using standby logs?
Q5. The log switch isn't happening automatically on the primary database where I could see the whole process happening on it own, such as generation of a new logfile, that being transported to the standby and then being applied on the standby.
Could this be due to inactivity on the primary database as I am not doing anything on it?
Sorry if I have missed out something guys but I tried to put in as much detail as I remember...
Thank you very much in advance.
Regards,
Bharath
Edited by: Bharath3 on Jan 22, 2010 2:13 AM

Parameters:
Missing on the Primary:
DB_UNIQUE_NAME=oradgp
LOG_ARCHIVE_CONFIG=DG_CONFIG=(oradgp, oradgs)
Missing on the Standby:
DB_UNIQUE_NAME=oradgs
LOG_ARCHIVE_CONFIG=DG_CONFIG=(oradgp, oradgs)
You said: Also added a tempfile though the temp tablespace was created per the restore via RMAN, I think the actual file (temp01.dbf) didn't get created, so I manually created the tempfile.
RMAN should have also added the temp file. Note that as of 11g RMAN duplicate for standby will also add the standby redo log files at the standby if they already existed on the Primary when you took the backup.
You said: ****However I noticed that in the alert log the standby was complaining about the online REDO log not being present****
That is just the weird error that the RDBMS returns when the database tries to find the online redo log files. You see that at the start of the MRP because it tries to open them and if it gets the error it will manually create them based on their file definition in the controlfile combined with LOG_FILE_NAME_CONVERT if they are in a different place from the Primary.
Your questions (Q1 answered above):
You said: Q2. Do you see me doing anything wrong in regards to naming the directory structures? Should I have renamed the dbname directory in the Oracle Home to oradgs rather than oradgp?
Up to you. Not a requirement.
You said: Q3. When I enabled real time apply does that mean, that I am not in 'MANAGED' mode anymore? Is there an un-managed mode also?
You are always in MANAGED mode when you use the RECOVER MANAGED STANDBY DATABASE command. If you use manual recovery "RECOVER STANDBY DATABASE" (NOT RECOMMENDED EVER ON A STANDBY DATABASE) then you are effectively in 'non-managed' mode although we do not call it that.
You said: Q4. After the switchover, I have noticed that the MRP0 process is "APPLYING LOG" status to a sequence# which is not even the latest sequence# as per v$archived_log. By this I mean:-
Log 46 (in your example) is the last FULL and ARCHIVED log hence that is the latest one to show up in V$ARCHIVED_LOG as that is a list of fully archived log files. Sequence 47 is the one that is current in the Primary online redo log and also current in the standby's standby redo log and as you are using real time apply that is the one it is applying.
You said: What could be the possible reasons why sequence# 42 didn't get applied but the others did?
42 was probably a gap. Select the FAL columns as well and it will proably say 'YES' for FAL. We do not update the Primary's controlfile everytime we resolve a gap. Try the same command on the standby and you will see that 42 was indeed applied. Redo can never be applied out of order so the max(sequence#) from v$archived_log where applied = 'YES' will tell you that every sequence before that number has to have been applied.
You said: After reading several documents I am confused at this stage because I have read that you can setup standby databases using 'standby' logs but is there another method without using standby logs?
Yes, If you do not have standby redo log files on the standby then we write directly to an archive log. Which means potential large data loss at failover and no real time apply. That was the old 9i method for ARCH. Don't do that. Always have standby redo logs (SRL)
You said: Q5. The log switch isn't happening automatically on the primary database where I could see the whole process happening on it own, such as generation of a new logfile, that being transported to the standby and then being applied on the standby.
Could this be due to inactivity on the primary database as I am not doing anything on it?
Log switches on the Primary happen when the current log gets full, a log switch has not happened for the number of seconds you specified in the ARCHIVE_LAG_TARGET parameter or you say ALTER SYSTEM SWITCH LOGFILE (or the other methods for switching log files. The heartbeat redo will eventually fill up an online log file but it is about 13 bytes so you do the math on how long that would take :^)
You are shipping redo with ASYNC so we send the redo as it is commited, there is no wait for the log switch. And we are in real time apply so there is no wait for the log switch to apply that redo. In theroy you could create an online log file large enough to hold an entire day's worth of redo and never switch for the whole day and the standby would still be caught up with the primary.

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