One queue or multiple queues?

          Hi all,
          I have a JMS-based app that performs a few business functions, and each business
          function is handled by a single MDB. These MDBs see moderate traffic volumes
          (<5000 msg/day), and my question is this:
          Is it better to leave this design as-is, or is it better to merge these MDBs
          and their
          corresponding queues and use JMS selector to decide what biz function to perform?
          -j

Performance-wise it is better to use multiple queues, but
          your message rate is likely too low for this to make
          a difference.
          There is another advantage to using multiple queues:
          they make it easier for system administrators to
          see the statistics for different business processes, and
          possible to manage each differently.
          John wrote:
          > Hi all,
          >
          > I have a JMS-based app that performs a few business functions, and each business
          > function is handled by a single MDB. These MDBs see moderate traffic volumes
          > (<5000 msg/day), and my question is this:
          >
          > Is it better to leave this design as-is, or is it better to merge these MDBs
          > and their
          > corresponding queues and use JMS selector to decide what biz function to perform?
          >
          > -j

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Interesting. Did not know you could do that. +5 Chris!
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Recently I have successfully shared data of 2D array among different vis in a project, using circular buffer.
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          greg
          "Chris" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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          >
          > Here is what I am trying to do
          >
          > I have written one MDB that I want to use for multiple queues. I have seen
          posting
          > mentioning that code a new weblogic-ejb-jar.xml to define other queues as
          the
          > solution.
          >
          > Is there any other work around?
          >
          > I want to add queues in future as and when needed. I don't want to modify
          the
          > already deployed jar to replace it with new weblogic-ejb-jar.xml everytime
          I have
          > to add another queue for the message-driven-bean. Is is possible to use
          some kind
          > of reference tag and just put weblogic-ejb-jar.xml in a new jar file and
          deply
          > that every time I have a new queue to use for this MDB ( I don't think so,
          but
          > again ???).
          >
          > Any help would be greatly appreciated.
          >
          > Chris

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