Open Hub Destination-Third Party Tool

dear all,
can any one guide me as to how data(master data in particular) from bw can be transferred to oracle data base using open hub destiantion.is rfc connection between bw and third part tool enough,do we have to maintain the same structure in third party tool before executing DTP and how can this be done??
i am now able to transfer data from bw into a flat file and also to data base (bw) and not aware of the this functionality-third party tool .any light thrown on this area is welcome and points will be awarded ,
thanks ,
sasidhar gunturu

Some light at the end of tunnel for sure...
Extraction to the third-party tool can be executed as follows:
       1.      You define an open hub destination with Third-Party Tool as the destination type.
       2.      You create an RFC destination for your third-party tool and enter it in the definition of the open hub destination.
       3.      You use API RSB_API_OHS_DEST_SETPARAMS to define the parameters for the third-party tool that are required for the extraction.
       4.      You either start extraction immediately or include it in a process chain. You can also start this process chain from the third-party tool using process chain API RSPC_API_CHAIN_START. The extraction process then writes the data to a database table in the BI system.
       5.      When the extraction process is finished, the system sends a notification to the third-party tool via API RSB_API_OHS_3RDPARTY_NOTIFY.
       6.      The extracted data is read by API RSB_API_OHS_DEST_READ_DATA.
       7.      The status of the extraction is transferred to the monitor by API RSB_API_OHS_REQUEST_SETSTATUS.
For more details click below -
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw2004s/helpdata/en/43/7a69d9f3897103e10000000a1553f7/content.htm
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Chetan
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Extraction to the third-party tool can be executed as follows:
       1.      You define an open hub destination with Third-Party Tool as the destination type.
       2.      You create an RFC destination for your third-party tool and enter it in the definition of the open hub destination.
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       5.      When the extraction process is finished, the system sends a notification to the third-party tool using API RSB_API_OHS_3RDPARTY_NOTIFY.
       6.      The extracted data is read by API RSB_API_OHS_DEST_READ_DATA.
       7.      The status of the extraction is transferred to the monitor by API RSB_API_OHS_REQUEST_SETSTATUS.

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The Third Party tool needs parameters or switches to work correctly. Think of the old DOS commanda the "/a" "/b" suffix.
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http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/ce/c2463c6796e61ce10000000a114084/frameset.htm
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/ce/c2463c6796e61ce10000000a114084/frameset.htm
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http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/ce/c2463c6796e61ce10000000a114084/frameset.htm
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dear all,
          can any one guide me as to how data(master data in particular) from bw can be transferred to oracle data base using open hub destiantion.is rfc connection between bw and third part tool enough,do we have to maintain the same structure in third party tool before executing DTP and how can this be done??
          i am now able to transfer data from bw into a flat file and also to data base (bw) and not aware of the this functionality-third party tool .any light thrown on this area is welcome and points will be awarded ,
thanks ,
sasidhar gunturu

Some light at the end of tunnel for sure...
Extraction to the third-party tool can be executed as follows:
       1.      You define an open hub destination with Third-Party Tool as the destination type.
       2.      You create an RFC destination for your third-party tool and enter it in the definition of the open hub destination.
       3.      You use API RSB_API_OHS_DEST_SETPARAMS to define the parameters for the third-party tool that are required for the extraction.
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For more details click below -
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw2004s/helpdata/en/43/7a69d9f3897103e10000000a1553f7/content.htm
Hope it Helps
Chetan
@CP..

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