Operative indictors in WBS element

Hi Gurus,
The Operative indicator Account assignment has its check box by default flagged whereas other two boxes are unflagged. I want the Planning element to be flagged in all the WBS created and Acct. assignment box unflagged. How to achieve this ?
Regards,
Vinodh

Hi,
goto OPSA transaction for project profile.
click on control tab, in basic data subscreen
there is check box "All acct asst elem" i think that check box must have ticked, that's why all wbs elements are shown as account assignment element.
if you don't want that remove tick. & save.
now goto cj20n create project structure with wbs elements, now you will find wbs elements are w/o acct asst elem.
if you want to view all wbs element as planning element means all are ticked for planning element.This can be possible through substitution (tcode OPSN) by defining prerequisite & substitutions.
sandeep

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As i know following things not possible in std. sap ps. Still i would like to know is there any possibility to acheive same in std. sap ps.
1) I have created one std. project template, which is made for standardise Projects. Here we can copy same template for operative Projects. But my client having a requirement like they wanted to just copy a Single Std. WBS Element of any level from that std. project template to create operative project...can is it possible in std. sap ps.
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I am considering the use of Standard WBS elements however one of the limitations that I have identified is that it is not possible to enter the any default settlement parameters into the WBS elements.
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Hi Hermant,
Thanks for your ongoing input. I am still not sure my original message was clear.
The key point is that I am talking about using a range of operative structures as templates. "lets just say the first 200 operative structures will be designated as templates." These operative structures to be used as templates, contain different settlement parameters for each WBS element.
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of the value you just place your cursor over that field > Press F1>
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Hi
Is it really a standard SAP behaviour which will allows only billing WBS element to be account assigned to a sales order line item? There must be some setting in sales item category or document type or requirement class. Anybody has any idea?
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How to activate WBS element in sales order?
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Statistical WBS Element in Sales Order

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I tried to post a sales order with a statistical WBS element but the system shows me an error saying I can't open it because the WBS is statistical (Message CJ070).
Could it be a problem of Controlling Area or Operating Cornern?
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are u posting to some other cost object also. normally they wud have to be posted to a COPA also with the cost element being 11 category.
the wbs will receive the statistical posting, so there needs to be a real object also.
see whether the real object is getting derived.
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Open a Sales Order on statistical WBS element. How?

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I tried to open a sales order on a statistical WBS element but the system shows me an error saying I can't open it because the WBS is statistical.
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WBS Elements

What are wbs elements in SAP. What is the different b/w internal orders and wbs elements.

hi
WBS is nothing but Work Breakdown Structure. It is mainly used in Project System (PS) module. Tcode : CJ20N
For any project defined we must have atleast one WBS. Within this WBS we can have networks. Networks are nothing but the series of activities. Material are used to perform the activities.
To explain in detail just consider one example:
Govt of india wants to have Roads to be build through out the india. So Project can be defined in sap as "Connectivity".
WBS can be roads within different states like Roads for Gujarat, Karnataka etc.. i.e. WBS Gujarat, WBS Karnataka etc.
We can define different networks for these WBS like Road Between Ahmedabad to Surat or Between Bangalore to Belgham.
For this network we can have many activities like Land selection, Land Preparation, Road Building, Final finishing etc etc.
Hemal's example was a good example. Project Systems comes into play only when the industry's business is based on projects like... Construction companies, Engineer to Order scenarios. You may not see anyone using PS module for retail business. As Hemal explained in that example, you have a main project which is broken down into WBS elements. You can use the TC CJ20N to create the project and the WBS elements. Each WBS may have mutiple Networks associated and each Network may have multiple Network Activities as explained in the example by Hemal.
On the Sales Order, if your client is implementing PS module, you may have to attach the Sales Order to the WBS element it belongs to. WBS element is nothing but a bucket where all the activities belonging to that particular part of the project are captured. In the example, WBS Gujurat will tell you how many Sales Orders were created for the Gujurat sector, howmuch was spent on raw materials, what's the currect stock ([roject stock) available. How many Production Orders have been confirmed and howmany of them are getting confrmed in the future. How many invoices have been generated or how much revenue has been generated for that particular sector. How many deliveries have been made, what deliverables are still not accomplished.
So as you can see, PS is the center stage for all the modules that are being implemented like FI/CO, SD, MM, PP in this example. You can have cost centers and work centers defined. You can also have profit centers assigned at the plant level and get reports on varius selection criteria.
In a complete cycle of PS, like in reality, you initiate a project, you confirm/release the WBS/activities as per requirement, you execute the project and you close it.
One cannot initiate an activity unless it has been released by the project manager. Everything is accountable here and every dime is counted and at the end you know howmuch did you spend or make on each sector (WBS). Dont get confused with the term sector here... I am using it just for the explaination purposes.
In one typical example, the company I was working with until not too long ago, had Deliveries from the Project (TC: CNS0). We never used VL01N. We used CNS0 to create a delivery and then used VL02N for confirming the picking quantity for the already created delivery document.
I hope this should help you at least a bit. I'm not a PS consultant so I may not know a whole lot but trying going to CJ20N and you will see a lot yourself.
PS concultants are one of the highest paid consultants. Their supply is less and so is the demand. They are expected to understand real world business processes very well and they are generally the center stage of a project.
for furthur notes
http://help.sap.com/erp2005_ehp_03/helpdata/EN/4c/225e1d46e611d189470000e829fbbd/frameset.htm
http://help.sap.com/erp2005_ehp_03/helpdata/EN/4c/225d5a46e611d189470000e829fbbd/frameset.htm
http://help.sap.com/erp2005_ehp_03/helpdata/EN/4c/225e2a46e611d189470000e829fbbd/frameset.htm
for Internal oerder
Purpose
Internal orders are normally used to plan, collect, and settle the costs of internal jobs and tasks. The SAP system enables you to monitor your internal orders throughout their entire life-cycle; from initial creation, through the planning and posting of all the actual costs, to the final settlement and archiving:
Implementation Considerations
Order management within a company usually differentiates between sales-oriented orders, and internal orders. Sales-oriented orders (production or sales orders) are intended mainly for the logistical control of input factors and sales activities. Internal orders are categorized as either:
Orders used only for monitoring objects in Cost Accounting (such as, advertising or trade fair orders)
Productive orders that are value-added, that is, orders that can be capitalized (such as in-house construction of an assembly line).
Internal order management is the most detailed operational level of cost and activity accounting. It can be used for:
Cost monitoring, for example, where costs need to be looked at from object-related aspects, unlike in Cost Element Accounting or Cost Center Accounting
Assisting decision-making, when you need to decide between in-house production and external procurement
An enterprises internal orders can be used for different controlling purposes. For more information, see Classified by Controlling Objectives .
Features
You can use master data to assign certain characteristics to your internal orders, which enables you to control which business transactions can be used with the internal order.
Internal order planning enables you to roughly estimate the costs of a job before the order starts and to make an exact calculation at a later date. You can choose between various planning approaches to compare the effectiveness of different methods.
You can assign and manage budgets for internal orders.
You apply the actual costs incurred by a job to your internal orders using actual postings. In Financial Accounting, you can assign primary cost postings (such as the procurement of external activities and external deliveries) directly to internal orders.
In period-end closing you can use various different allocation methods (for example, overhead costing) to allocate costs between different areas of Cost Accounting.
Order settlement enables you to transfer the costs incurred by an order to the appropriate receivers.
The information system for internal orders enables you to track planned and assigned costs on your orders in each stage of the order life-cycle.
You can archive internal orders that you no longer require. See Archiving.
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http://help.sap.com/printdocu/core/Print46c/en/data/pdf/COOMOPA/COOMOPA.pdf
http://help.sap.com/erp2005_ehp_03/helpdata/EN/cd/238f38661fca77e10000009b38f842/frameset.htm
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Hi Experts,
Is there any way we can check that to which all WBS element an investment profile is attached?
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If an inv. profile (or other customizing settings) is used somewhere, it must not be deleted in the customizing table, otherwise it cause database inconsistency.
To forbid the user to maintain this field at wbs, you can use the
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WBS element and Cost Center

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As far as I know, when the a/c assignment category is P in a PO, the costs are assessed on the cost object WBS element and when the a/c assignment category is K in a PO, the costs are assessed on the cost object cost center. But, as I drill down a WBS element, I find Requesting and responsible cost center.
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Please help in clearing my concepts.
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You assign the account assignment to WBS element based on the OPERATIVE INDICATOR...
By this you specify the attributes of a WBS element and determine which tasks the WBS element can carry out in the project...
Please check the LInk given for futher explainations:
[WBS ELEMENT|http://help.sap.com/erp2005_ehp_04/helpdata/EN/4c/225e2a46e611d189470000e829fbbd/frameset.htm]
check the table given at the bottom...
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Need some KT from you all regarding Statistical WBS Elements.My queries are
1.Can a statistical WBS element be budgeted? If yes how are the Budget distributed to those below.
2..If a level 2 WBS is marked statistical and it has 3 WBS under it which are Acc asignment element then how is the budget distributed.
3.can you provide some good example of the use of Statistical WBS element?
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Hi Shourya,
1. As mentioned above Statistical WBS can be budgeted like any operative project and the budget can further be divided into lower level WBS elements and Availaility Control can be activated on these.
2. Again as stated above the budget distribution is normal. For ex- If a level 2 WBS is statistical and level 2's underneath that are real WBS.
3. We can use the Statistical WBS for capital projects. For ex- We can assign a Statistical WBS in Master record of AUC for Availability control of budget for Capital spending. And then when we create a PO with Account Assignment category A with same AUC, budget control (Availability control) is activated through the statistical WBS.
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