Oracle RDB vs Oracle XXg

Hi!
I need information about differences and similarity of Oracle RDB for VMS Platforms and Oracle DB versions for Unix, Linux, Win32,....
Or more concrete if I take one Oracle Certified DBA for 10g, how is he/she "near" to be certified for Oracle RDB?
Differences in architecture? As seen from "inside Oracle".
Thanks in advance!

Oracle (the database) and RDB are completely, totally different products. They are both relational databases, but that's where the similarities end.
Oracle (the database) was developed by Oracle (the company).
RDB, on the other hand, was a relational database that was developed by Digital Equipment (DEC) and purchased by Oracle (the company). Oracle (the company) incorporated some of the features that RDB had into Oracle (the database), but almost exclusively as functional rewrites.
Oracle (the database) and RDB are roughly as similar as Oracle (the database) and any other relational database product-- SQL Server, DB2, etc. There are some high level similarities, of course, but huge differences as well.
Justin

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Oracle Rdb Driver 3.1.0.0 problem

I am trying to convert an MsAccess application to use an MsAccess front end and an Oracle Rdb back end.
I've created the test database under VMS and can successfully link to the Oracle Rdb tables from MSAccess 2000. One of the main reasons for converting to Oracle Rdb is to be able to store large word documents in the database. I was able to do that using Oracle rdb Driver v 3.00.02.06. I recently converted to Oracle Rdb Driver version 3.1.0.0 and can no longer access the Blob field containing the Word document. MsAccess now sees this field as type Binary and I keep getting an invalid field type error. (with 3.00.02.06 this field was seen by MsAccess as an Ole Object and the getchunk and appendchunk functions for getting and saving a blob worked reasonably well).
Is this a bug in 3.1.0.0 or is there some way to get MsAccess to recognize this Binary field type?

I suspect you'll need to contact Oracle support on this. There aren't, to my knowledge, any RDB folks around here.
Justin
Distributed Database Consulting, Inc.
http://www.ddbcinc.com/askDDBC

Differences between Oracle and Oracle Rdb.

My background is mainly VMS, and so I have grown up (since 1984) with DEC Rdb (now Oracle Rdb). I am starting to get into Oracle, and therefore, starting to learn the subtle differences. With this in mind could someone educate me as to the default transaction type when using SQLPLUS (using interactive SQL it's READ WRITE). What is the initialization file called for SQLPLUS, and are there equivalents to the logical names SQLINI, SQL$DATABASE, SQL$EDIT, etc.
If there is someone out there with experience of both, may be you could ease my pain by posting your pearls of wisdom, or tips, here to help me along the way.

OK, I'll try a few, having moved from VAX/Rdb to Oracle 10 years ago.
Oracle's default transaction state is read-write, isolation level READ COMITTED. This means you generally don't need to do a "SET TRANSACTION" at the start of a transaction, and certainly don't need to keep doing commit;set transaction to see the latest values.
In read-write transactions Oracle does not lock rows on read to maintain consistency in the way Rdb used to. Usually people use SELECT ... FOR UPDATE, or update directly (without a separate select) rather than using isolation SERIALIZABLE, which is the equivalent of Rdb's default.
A script login.sql is executed at the start of a SQLPLUS session. On Unix, it looks for this in the current directory, and the home directory.
On UNIX, SQL$DATABASE becomes "export TWO_TASK=dbname"
On Windows, SQL$DATABASE becomes "set LOCAL=dbname"
I strongly recommend Tom Kyte's Expert one-on-one Oracle book to help your transition, and his web site asktom.oracle.com
Good luck, and welcome.

Oracle ODBC driver for Rdb

Where is the download???????

You probably want to contact Oracle support for that. I don't recall ever seeing RDB-related downloads on OTN.
Justin

Oracle Rdb JDBC: Insufficient global memory

Environment:
IA64 OpenVMS 8.3
Java RTE version 1.5
Oracle RDB version 7.2-2
SQL/services version 7.3
JDBC server for RDB version 7.3
JDBC-Thin driver version 7.3
The problem:
we have a JDBC dispatcher with 20 executor processes.
We have a client application that performs connect/disconnect to the database before/after each sql select statement.
Sometimes the query doesn't terminate successfully and we get the following error in
the JDBC log file:
RDB$CLIENT_ID_0000038D C00000000*T 201010-21 12:19:13.409 : [email protected] msg : INIT_V713 send>>>>>>>>>>>>> System Error : Insufficient global memory
any help?

I would start with RDB administration/configuration documents. It's a DBMS server issue,
not JDBC. Though it may or may not help, in principal, if yo can keep and re-use connections
instead of repeatedly opening and closing, it is usually faster and less burdensome on the DBMS...

Connect to Oracle Rdb Using Enterprise Manager

How can I create a connection to an Rdb Database using the Enterprise Manager or by editing tnsnames.ora? What is the correct syntax for the tns entries?

Download and install 9i client for Linux (you will need linux_base package for linux compatibility).
Following links may help you:
http://ezine.daemonnews.org/200402/oracle.html
http://tomclegg.net/oracle9i-bsd5
http://www.freebsd.org.ru/software/linux-oracle.html
Then install php with "--with-oci8=$ORACLE_HOME" option.

What means Rdb in "Oracle ODBC Driver for Rdb" ...

... I assume data basse but what about the upper R ? ^^
thanks

oh ok thanks, for OpenVMS platforms only and R as "relational" oki doki
I'm surprise that, when I'm looking for the oracle odbc driver 8, I find almost only result for Rdb, is it not compatible with a windows standard edition as 2000, xp ...

Oracle RDB driver for java

hello.
i connect to my oracle driver using this
Class.forName("oracle.jdbc.driver.OracleDriver");
but now i have to use oracle RDB and i want to ask how that is done?
do i have to download another jar for that?
and how is the connection string done?
thanks

nope.
you're getting me all wrong
i already have ojdbc14.jar and i already connected to oracle 9iHow did you do that without knowing the connection string?
the problem is with oracle RDB jdbc
that's another different matter.What? I don't understand.
oracle rdb runs under open vms and you have to
install some other things before the rdb jar itself.I don't know about running Oracle on OpenVMS. Sorry.
and i also need the connections tring for the class.How did you "connect" without it?
I gave you a link to the docs, which should tell you what the connection string syntax is. It'll look something like this:
jdbc:oracle:thin:@host:1521:database%

Using OCI with Oracle RDB V7.0.3

We will shortly be upgrading our RDB installation under OpenVMS (Alpha) to version 7.0.3 of RDB, running on version 7.2 OpenVMS.
Q1) Will it be possible to use the 'Oracle Call Interface' or OCI with this version of RDB. If so, what extra software components, if any, will be required.
Q2) We would also like to use Designer/2000, Developer/2000 and Discoverer/2000. Is this possible with this version of RDB and, if so, what extra software components are required.
Many thanks
null

Hi Shivek,
An excellent solution for this is provided in the metalink Note:455905.1.
Let me know if you have more questions.
Thanks
Vishnu

RDB, Oracle 9i and Materialised Views

Hi all,
I have a RDB 7.1.5.9.1 and an Oracle 9.0.1.4.0 database and the data from the RDB has to be available for queries in Oracle Discoverer. There is a 1Gb (fixed) line between the databases. I have created a database link and that is working fine.
The RDB is used 24h a day and it is very important that there are no performance problems. I do not think that a 1-on-1 recreation of the data model of the RDB in the Oracle database (with the use of the database link) is the answer. The advantage is of course that the data is always up to date, but when multiple queries are started in Oracle Discoverer I think we have a problem. And the users are used to the fact that the data is not refreshed during the day, so that isnât an issue.
So I was thinking of using Materialised Views. Because RDB doesnât understand Materialised View Logs I can only do a complete refresh of these Materialised Views in Oracle. I can spread the time in which these are refreshed, but I only got about 1 hour (from 7 AM to 8 AM) to refresh about 1200Mb (that is not a lot), but in the future there will be an increase in the amount that has te be refrshed.
Does anybody know what a complete refresh will do to the performance of the RDB?
And what happens if someone is querying on a Materialised View during a refresh?
Of course, any other ideas are more then welcome. I am also considering the use of triggers in the RDB to INSERT-UPDATE-DELETE the data in Oracle and the use of LogMinor, although this last option is a tricky one because the Redo-statements contain rowidâs except from the INSERT statements.
Thanks!

in oracle9i database you can create materialized views with logs option but it works only under certain conditions. there is another option in oracle9i database of materialized views in which you can use time refresh.you specify time period after which your database refrsh automatically.
Yes freshing of materialized view cause performance cost on the server but it is only for time based refresh.as well as concern to the queries their is no problem with them when m-vies is in refresh state.oracle's own infrastructure can handel it.

Getting Oracle RDB 7 database into 10g howto

Hello,
We have an old database in Oracle RDB 7 on an older OpenVMS system that we would like to somehow import into a new Oracle 10g database running under Unix. I'm familiar with OpenVMS and Unix, Oracle 8i and later, but don't have much of a clue about Oracle RDB, which seems a complete different product.
So far I found out that export and import in Oracle RDB are completely different from Oracle 10g in terms of compatibility and unction. Perhaps there is some way to use RMU/Extract under RDB? Can the complete database be saved in e.g. text delimited or other suitable formats? Whatever I do however must not change anything on the original RDB database.
Thanks in advance for any advice and help!
Best regards,
Markus Waldorf

(I have never worked on RDB but) I just carried out a brief search on internet regarding Oracle RDB 7 and it seems it can be exported using ODBC (however, the options are limited).
I would advise you to get in touch with Oracle support or Oracle RDB provider. May be they can help you out with this.

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