Overheating Hard Drive

I have been using a dv6157ea laptop without problems for the last couple of years. But in the last week or so the computer began to randomly freeze on me. It would suddenly just lock up on me. At first I thought it may be a virus/malware problem and accordingly updated and scaned my system for same which through up nothing. Then I updated all drivers/windows updates with issue still pertaining. Next I tried calming down all wistles and bells in vista and turned off all unessary effects like aero. I also cut all unnessary startup programs turned off search funtion. Nothing helped, random freeze kept happening. There was no hard and fast rule to why it would freeze, weather I was playing music, surfing the internet playing games or just letting the computer sit idle. Then I tried a program to test the heat of the hard drive which trew up temptures of up to 65c This is not normal is it? and could this be the cause of the random freeze up?   

Hello yekimak
Try this > iStat pro widget to double check your iMac's temp!
With iStat pro my temp's are:
CPU.....................112' F
GPU.....................169' F
Ambient................88' F
Memory Control..124' F
HD Bay................119' F
Optical Drive.......108' F
ST3160023AS.....120' F
iStat pro will also tell you the fan speeds, mine are:
Optical Drive....999rpm
CPU Fan...........999rpm
HD Fan..........1220rpm
Here's what the iMac Spec's say for "Electrical and Environmental Requirements"
Meets ENERGY STAR requirements
Line voltage: 100-240V AC
Frequency: 50Hz to 60Hz, single phase
Maximum continuous power: 180W
Operating temperature: 50° to 95° F (10° to 35° C)
Storage temperature: -40° to 185° F (-40° to 85° C)
Relative humidity: 5% to 95% noncondensing
Maximum altitude: 10,000 feet
Temp's and fan speed will very depending on whats running and what your doing. OK, but 96' F seems to low to shut down the Mac unless it's the Ambient or room temp sensor I underlined above.
1. Is it that hot in the room?
2. Are all three fans running?
3. Is there something covering the air intake grills on the botton or the exaust vents upper back of the iMac?
Let me know what turns up?
Dennis
17" iMac Intel Core Duo - 2GB Ram -   Mac OS X (10.4.10)   - Maxtor 300GB FireWire - Creative Inspire 2.1 - 2G Nano

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