P965 Neo-F & ATI 4870 or 4850

I have a P965 Neo-F Mobo, and am looking at installing either an ATI 4870 or ATI 4850 graphics card. Will either of these card work OK? I read that the 4870 needs 2 x 6pin connectors (not sure about the 4850) - does the board have these features?

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I have a P965 Neo-F Mobo, and am looking at installing either an ATI 4870 or ATI 4850 graphics card. Will either of these card work OK?
Should works.
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I read that the 4870 needs 2 x 6pin connectors (not sure about the 4850) - does the board have these features?
Those are power cable connectors, mainboard has nothing to do with that. It depend of your PSU used.

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MSI P965 Neo-F and a other problem!

Hi alls!
I have a problem with my MSI P965 Neo-F.In fact when i push the power button i have to wait 5-6 secondes for my pc turn on...
I have the same problem that Er.nest:https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=107722.0 (problem number 5)
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ok v1.10 .. so we have same version now.. (maybe it will help us to find somthing helpful)
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Hello, I'm facing a very strange problem. I'm using a p965 neo-f board, with a dual pentium 2.80GHz, a 250gb sata wd disk, 2x512mb corsair ram, ati radeon x1300, psu tagan 480w, ide dvdrw bios w7235ims v1.5. I build the system myself and installed windows xp x64 pro. Everything went ok and the system was stable. Some day there was a current breakdown and when i powered on the pc during the post it hanged at ide detecting disks. I've entered bios setup, save and exit rebooted and went back to windows. At the past 2 years i suffered a couple current breakdowns leading to the above problem that i'm solving it as i said before. I must say that the computer belongs to my sister and i'm her technician . During last week my sister decided to move the pc to another room. They connected the computer, powered it on and the same thing. During post it hangs on detecting disks. I took the computer at home changed the sata to the jmicron slot, and booted to windows. The problem is that the ethernet controller doesn't work. So i reinstalled all the mobo drivers, no luck. I did a bios update to version 1.90. The result was with sata connected to the jmicron, the ethernet controller is not working. I changed the sata to sata 6 and everything worked ok. Today I've opened the pc again to check it out and the same thing, post hangs at ide detection. I don't know what to do anymore. maybe the intel controller is messing up with the jmicron? or the bios is not suitable? should i downgrade to other bios versions? Any help will be appreciated. Thanks

Thanks for the reply, I thought about those things myself and I'll try them. Here is another weird one. Connecting the hard drive to sata2 slot everything worked well for a day.
Today I powered the pc in the morning and it recognized the disk. I Did some work and I checked the shutdown and the rebooting. Everything looked as It should be. So I went to the beach, and when I came back, I started the pc--->> the same thing happened!!!
Should I try another bios version? or It is just a waste of time?

P965 Neo 7325 BIOS update issue

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Quote from: Steveng729 on 22-February-11, 10:11:46
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http://www.msi.com/product/mb/P965-Neo.html#/?div=Detail
• Supports four unbuffered DIMM of 1.8 Volt DDRII DRAM
• Supports up to 8GB memory size (DDRII 533/667).
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I hope this gives someone enough info to help! If you need anything else I can post it when I get home.
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I can say I have not updated the BIOS from whatever was delivered in the box. If it helps I have this info:
Phoenix - AwardBIOS v6.00PG
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In your case it should say: "W7235IMS V1.??"
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When you mention, real temp running at 83C, may i know where you're monitoring from?
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http://www.techpowerup.com/realtemp/
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I would suggest you to monitor the temp in bios either under hardware monitor or health status
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Quote from: RemusM on 12-June-14, 17:51:30
The P965 Neo motherboard is 8 years old, so don't expect miracles. .... You need to format the USB stick in the proper way. You may use this utility to do it: hxxp://www.prime-expert.com/flashboot/ Also, it's a good idea to use the first (USB0) connector (controlled by Intel ICH8) for the USB flash drive. Good luck.
Thank You for your fast response, RemusM!
I'm not looking for a miracle. I'm just looking for a mobo that does what it is supposed to do: Allow me to boot from a USB flash drive (I don't think that is too much to ask for even from a board that was made in 2006)!
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Photoshop CS3 allows me to enable Open GL but CS4 does not Brand new MacPro with ATI 4870 card

Hi,
I just bought a brand new 8 core Mac Pro and have both the ATI 4870 graphics card and the Nvidia GT 120 card. Pshop CS3 allows me to "enable openGL" in the prefs and utiizes it when doing 3d stuff... however, CS4 has it dimmed in the prefs, thereby not allowing me to check it (it is dimmed and unchecked I should say) and when I do 3d stuff a dialog box saying
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yeah, short term test deems keeping both cards in.
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well you could just try raising your fsb to 333Mhz and see what happens. done it with mine no problems at all no other tweeking either. lots n lots of people have done the same without a problem.
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I read here on these boards that an ATI 4870 would work in an early model (in my case, 2006) Intel Mac Pro.
I jumped in hastily and bought the Asus branded card: EAH4870
I connected it, and nothing... did not work.
I do not think it is a Mac version of this card, perhaps intended to be used in a windows machine.
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- Are there Mac drivers for this card? I can't find anything anywhere
- Basically, can I get this card to work, or do I need to PAY the extra $$$$ just to have a "Mac" version of this.
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I do not have dual boot, and no windows machines to "flash" or rework this card.
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It is not a Mac version. It does not have the required EFI boot ROM needed to work on the Mac. Video drivers are contained in OS X. Either you have to have the card flashed (this is illegal) or buy a Mac version of the card.
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I need an i/o-shield for MSI P965 Neo-F V2 motherboard.
I live in Finland, I've asked from local stores but nobody sells them separately.
Anybody knows where to acquire one? (it can be from another motherboard too, if it's exactly like the one that comes with Neo-F V2).
Any help would be greatly appreciated, thank you.

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Edit: I found it! Here's a link with illustrations of various Intel I/O shields: http://www.intel.com/support/motherboards/desktop/sb/cs-009031.htm
Here's the link with the I/O shields for purchase: http://shop.intel.com/shop/category.asp?category%5Fid=94
Here's the link for different delivery locations: http://shop.intel.com/shop/countryselector.asp

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I hope someone can help....
I bought this motherboard along with all the other items required to build a new system as follows:
MSI P965 Neo-f motherboard (Bios v1.5)
Intel Core 2 Duo E6600
2gb (2 x 1gb) OCZ PC-6400 (800) Memory
2 x 200gb Hitachi Hard Drives (to be run in Raid 0)
Sony/Nec Optiarc DVD-Writer
Liteon DVD-Rom
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Innovision 7300GT Graphics
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The question is how? All other systems I have built allowed you to set SATA raid up in the Bios, then you would be presented with the setup utility whilst booting to allow you to set the Raid options.
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BUT STILL NO RAID OPTIONS
Do I need to install the Intel Matrix Storage when I've installed Vista, as I've tried so many times without success (it keeps saying the system doesn't meet the requirements) that I've given up with that one but I don't no if I need it or not????
Hope someone can help and come up with an idiots guide on setting up Raid on this motherboard, as I need to get this computer to its owner on Monday......
Cheers

Quote from: rushal on 27-May-07, 06:42:57
Does anyone wanna buy a brand new P965 Neo-f (without raid?)
Why would I want a board without raid?
Add-on raid controllers vary in price. This one is cheap: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16815104219

Can I add a second ATI 4870 to my 2009 Mac Pro?

1. Can I add a second ATI 4870 to my 2009 Mac Pro? Sorry if posted already, I searched and Googled and could not find it.
2. What is the general consensus on the EVGA GTX285? Will this out perform the 4870?
I read somewhere that the ATI needs additional power from the power supply and the GTX does not? Is this true? If this is the case are there extra power supply connectors for an additional 4870 (hence my first question).
The GTX has dual DVI out connector and this is my preferred solution to get 2 x 30" Cinema Displays.
Thanks in advance,
MIke
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1. Can I add a second ATI 4870 to my 2009 Mac Pro? Sorry if posted already, I searched and Googled and could not find it.
No. Each ATI 4870 needs two auxiliary power connectors. There are only two in the Mac Pro.
I read somewhere that the ATI needs additional power from the power supply and the GTX does not? Is this true?
No. Both use two per card.
If this is the case are there extra power supply connectors for an additional 4870 (hence my first question).
No.
The GTX has dual DVI out connector and this is my preferred solution to get 2 x 30" Cinema Displays.
You can use an adapter to connect a second 30" to the Mini DisplayPort
<http://store.apple.com/us/product/MB571Z/A?fnode=MTY1NDA5OQ&mco=MjkyNjI0Mg>
(The latest adapters have new firmware, and shouldn't have problems.)
If you only need two displays, stick with one graphics card.

ATI 4870 DVI-VGA not working. Help?

Howdy folks,
I was using an ATI 4870 with two DVI ports and one S-Video port on a Mac Pro 3,1 (I think) running osx 10.5 with two monitors
When we retired that computer I harvested the 4870 card to replace a GT 120 on a Mac Pro 4,1 running osx 10.8. It has been feeding two monitors without issue, one DVI and the other DVI-HDMI.
However, I cannot seem to get it to recognize any VGA monitor or projector using any of three different connectors. Nor can I seem to get any signal out of the S-Video port.
My goal is to run a VGA projector with the Mac Pro 4,1, a projector with VGA, S-Video, and RCA inputs.
As I said, I have tried three different DVI to VGA connectors. Two of these are very similar with 29 pins on the DVI connector. These did absolutely nothing. The third has only 17 pins, and while it had no result with projector, when connected to a VGA monitor the computer would recognize that a second monitor was attached, but no signal seemed to be carried to that monitor. The osx settings showed options for two monitors, but no image appeared on that second monitor.
One of the two DVI to VGA connectors I had successfully used on the previous Mac Pro 3,1 computer, but I cannot remember if it was with the 4870 or the graphics card we used before upgrading.
A Macbook using a MiniDVI to VGA connector feeds a signal to the projector without issue.
If this community can offer any help or guidance, I would be very grateful.
Best wishes-

The signals used for VGA are generated directly by the DVIO-I port on the graphics card, and are supplied in the bar at the right end, the four pins around it, and one pin from the top row of the grid (salmon/pink in the diagram above). A VGA adapter has no active components in it -- it just picks up those five signals and presents them on the proper VGA pins. The bar is used as the common return.
A failure is to produce a signal is not likely to be a failure in the adapter, but a failure on the graphics card.
DVI-I (Digital AND Analog) has the bar and the four pins around it present.
DVI-D (Digital only) has no bar, and the pins around it are not populated.
Diagram courtesy of Wikipedia.

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