Panther install without admin account?

eeeeek, I've installed 10.3 and didn't click the button 'allow user to administer this computer'.... which of course means I can't install anything or modify folders or anything
-is there a quick fix for this?

thanks Sue, that was a helpful comment!

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ZEN Agent install without admin rights

Hi all,
Sorry to re-visit something I've seen a number of posts on, but I can't
seem to get things to work as I've been lead to believe they should. We
have a handful of systems that do not have any instance of the ZEN agent
installed, a mix of NT and XP (odd, I know). We are attempting to create
an automated process that will establish whether the agent is on the
system and if it is not, install it. Seems pretty straight forward and
I've been referencing the following suggestions. There are a number of
posts in the forums as well, but these were the most relevant.
http://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/trench/3490.html
http://support.novell.com/cgi-bin/se...?/10085696.htm
http://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/trench/3383.html
http://support.novell.com/cgi-bin/se...?/10073212.htm
The problem is, despite what these instructions say, we cannot install the
agent without having local admin rights. All the batch files are in
place, and work, but ultimately the install fails. I've seen work arounds
for any OS later than NT, but its important that every system have the
agent.
I've tried almost everything suggested in the links above but I am
primarily pursuing the batch file approach as detailed in...
http://support.novell.com/cgi-bin/se...?/10085696.htm
At what point are rights elevated such that the install can complete in an
NT environment?
I am sure I'm forgetting some relevant details, so humor me please.
Thanks in advance.
Mike

I forgot that RunAs does not come with NT. ( It's available as an add-on,
but even that needs admin rights to install.)
Try PSExec from http://www.sysinternals.com, but I believe that will not
work either, but worth a shot.
Another outside shot is to push the "AlwaysInstallElevated" MSI installer
registry keys via a batch file.
Unfortunately, I doubt your logged on user has the rights to do this
either..............
You may be stuck manually visiting and installing manually.
Craig Wilson
Novell Product Support Forum Sysop
Master CNE, MCSE 2003, CCNA
Editor - http://www.ithowto.com
(Seeking Full-Time Expert? Drop me a note :> )
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> There's no domain to work with. The only admin account available is on
> the local PC. I've seen options using Runas or even CPAU.exe but neither
> are available with Windows NT.
>
> We are copying the relevant files to a directory on the PC before
> beginning the install. To this point, network access has not been an
> issue.
>
> The batch file dictates the install run in the background so I don't see
> it happening, but the problem seems to come down to not having
> administrative rights on the PC. If I launch the .MSI manually it gives
> me an error referencing rights. If I'm logged on as an administrator the
> install completes exactly as it should.
>
> Thanks for the reply. I look forward to any suggestions you may have.
>
>
>> There are lots of scripts, but you need to have some ID that is a local
>> admin. ( If the PC is on a Domain, then a Domain Admin account works
>> great.)
>> Additionally, network access may be lost when running this script, so
>> copying the agent local before the install may help.
>>
>> Where do you hit a snag? Starting the install as the alernate user?
>> Finding an Admin account? Determining if the agent is installed?
>>
>> --
>> Craig Wilson
>> Novell Product Support Forum Sysop
>> Master CNE, MCSE 2003, CCNA
>>
>> Editor - http://www.ithowto.com
>>
>> (Seeking Full-Time Expert? Drop me a note :> )
>>
>>
>> <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>> > Hi all,
>> >
>> > Sorry to re-visit something I've seen a number of posts on, but I can't
>> > seem to get things to work as I've been lead to believe they should.
> We
>> > have a handful of systems that do not have any instance of the ZEN
> agent
>> > installed, a mix of NT and XP (odd, I know). We are attempting to
> create
>> > an automated process that will establish whether the agent is on the
>> > system and if it is not, install it. Seems pretty straight forward and
>> > I've been referencing the following suggestions. There are a number of
>> > posts in the forums as well, but these were the most relevant.
>> >
>> > http://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/trench/3490.html
>> > http://support.novell.com/cgi-bin/se...?/10085696.htm
>> > http://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/trench/3383.html
>> > http://support.novell.com/cgi-bin/se...?/10073212.htm
>> >
>> > The problem is, despite what these instructions say, we cannot install
> the
>> > agent without having local admin rights. All the batch files are in
>> > place, and work, but ultimately the install fails. I've seen work
> arounds
>> > for any OS later than NT, but its important that every system have the
>> > agent.
>> >
>> > I've tried almost everything suggested in the links above but I am
>> > primarily pursuing the batch file approach as detailed in...
>> > http://support.novell.com/cgi-bin/se...?/10085696.htm
>> >
>> > At what point are rights elevated such that the install can complete
> in an
>> > NT environment?
>> >
>> > I am sure I'm forgetting some relevant details, so humor me please.
>> > Thanks in advance.
>> >
>> > Mike
>>
>>
>

Macports/digiKam - install in ADMIN-account or as USER ?

Hi,
for all my main apps, I want to switch over to open source / cross-platform. With the discontinuation of iPhoto, I think this would be a good moment to do this for my photo app, since one has to switch anyway. I chose digiKam. To install it on a Mac, one has to first install Macports, which I have absolutely no experience with (I'm NOT a developer, but I thought you guys might know best).
To save me some trial and error:
My main user account is (of course ) a NON-ADMIN account. When installing Macports / digiKam, is this best done:
from within the account of the user who later wants to use digiKam?
from within an ADMIN-ACCOUNT, and then ALL USERS can later use digiKam in their respective accounts?
or maybe it doesn't matter ...
I still like OSX, but it's always good to have options ...
Cheers.

Why do you want to do this? Anything you get from MacPorts is going to be kludgy tool developed for Linux. They almost always have to be installed as the root user.
i strongly urge you to reconsider this plan. The new Photos is a nice app. Why not use it?

Downloading and installing on admin account vs standard account

What is the difference for downloading and installing files when:
logged in on an admin account
logged in on a standard account (using the admin details when prompted)
I ask this, because when I am in my standard account, the downloaded files and installed applications are owned by the standard account. Does this affect how the files run on other standard accounts?

In other words, is it better to do all downloading and installing whilst logged into the admin account? The Ownership & Permissions is stopping me from doing this when logged in on my standard account. There are many other standard accounts, and I am concerned that my standard account will not be equal. This is because of the permissions issues outlined previously.
P.S. Sorry for the multiple posts. I can't find a way to edit the original post.

Using Oracle after install without Admin rights -- Possible?

We are upgrading our company to Windows 7. Clearly, the best practice is to remove admin rights from users. I see lots of posts on inability to install Oracle without admin rights. That makes sense. Once installed though, we are hitting errors simply running Oracle without admin rights. Is there a change in our install methodology that would allow us to run Oracle without Admin rights? Any thoughts would be appreciated. We are having to run wide open right now.
Thanks,
Dave

974992 wrote:
We are upgrading our company to Windows 7. Clearly, the best practice is to remove admin rights from users. I see lots of posts on inability to install Oracle without admin rights. That makes sense. Once installed though, we are hitting errors simply running Oracle without admin rights. Is there a change in our install methodology that would allow us to run Oracle without Admin rights? Any thoughts would be appreciated. We are having to run wide open right now.
Thanks,
Davemaybe a bit more detail. It sounds like you are talking about end-user machines, in which case I would only expect the oracle client software to be installed. What exact errors are you getting?

12c install on Windows without admin account?

Is it possible to grant a non-administrator group member account explicit permissions to be able to install the software without adding the user to the local (or domain) administrators group?
I'm stumbling into the issue described in other installation discussions where I get an error:
SEVERE: [FATAL] [INS-30131] The initial setup that is required to run the installation program validation was not successful.
CAUSE: Access to the temp directory was not successful.
ACTION: Ensure that the current user has the necessary permissions to access the temp directory.
So I can ask my helpdesk to allow me to create/enable the admin share, but I'm concerned that this will get me only as far as the next error message.
In general, our company policy is to enforce separation of duties and deny explicit admin permissions, so I would like to identify the explicit requirements for installation to work
(that said, I need to get the software installed, so if it's not documented anywhere, I'll probably just ask for admin privs).

Have you tried skipping the 'Install public JRE' step, it's should only
be this step that requires admin privileges.
We will verify the behaviour and fix it if it's not the case.
If skipping the jre step doesn't help, you can do the following:
*Unzip 'win_ia32_jrockit150_03_sdk_no_jre.zip' and
'win_ia32_jrockit150_03_jre.zip' from the installer exe
('jrockit-25.2.0-jdk1.5.0_03-win-ia32.exe'), put them for instance in
c:\tmp.
*Unzip 'win_ia32_jrockit150_03_sdk_no_jre.zip' into c:\jrockit (or some
other directory of your choice).
*Unzip 'win_ia32_jrockit150_03_jre.zip' into c:\jrockit\jre
Klara Ward
JRockit QA

Installing without admin rights on Win7

I am trying to get a definitive answer to whether Adobe Creative Cloud can be installed and used by someone who does not have administrator rights to their Windows 7 PC. In our company, we restrict user rights and users cannot "elevate" their rights to install software. Normally, we package ALL software and deploy it by Microsoft SCCM, which overcomes any admin problems automatically. We could presumably do that to install the initial cloud download manager application. But it is not clear whether that will then be able to install the specific applications the user requires when logged in using their (user mode) account. Does the creative cloud installer run as a background service - that could be set to run with an administrator service account? Can one user with access to the cloud downloa da traditional installer package which could then e passed to SCCM for deployment to other colleagues? Is there any official suggestion from Adobe how companies that enforce lock-down of user rights can use the Cloud?
Thanks!
Anthony

Hi Anthony,
I know that installation at least requires admin rights and most likely first launch with some of the apps. I believe its possible to run most of the apps from a limited user once installed. This is true for all Adobe products not just Cloud products. I believe we are working on options for deployment for Creative Cloud Team which would support technologies such as SCCM, so even if this option is not available for cloud currently, it may be something that is available in the future.
-Dave

Clean Install without apple account password?

I have a 2011 Macbook Pro. I am trying to sell it and want to do a clean reinstall of OSX. I have erased the drive as per instructed on the apple website and then followed the instructions for the reinstall of OS X. In the process it asked me for a password for the app store.
My question is this: Will that password and account information be attached to the clean install? If so, how can I reinstall without attaching my account to it? I do not have any disks from which to install.
Thanks for your help.

Hi jaredspaulding,
I understand that you want to sell your Mac and would like some information about how to best prepare for this. Here is an article that will help you:
What to do before selling or giving away your Mac - Apple Support
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201065
Take care, and thanks for visiting the Apple Support Communities.
Cheers,
Braden

Can't install without Admin login and password

I have no idea where this comment should be posted...that is a clear indication that your "HELP" has failed this user. BTW, were the previous hopeless, distraught comments helpful to me? They made me feel I am Not alone in my utter disbelief at the run around you engineer into your """"support"""". Why do the people who you get on the phone after 20-40 min at 1-800-833-6687 even bother to lead you down a path that they are going to address your issue, when in fact they send you back to the website, or the forums. Which is worse. I can't say. I was sent 4 times in a complete circle.
My issue is probably DOA in your rule book as I am trying to re-install an ADOBE PRODUCT that you DO NOT SUPPORT.....It does not matter that the question I am asking has nothing to do with the product. The product is still working fine, that is why I want to install it on my current computer, When I put the disk in, I am prompted to enter the system administrators name and password. UNFORTUNATELY, I have lost track of this info and need to know how I can install this software even though I don't have this info. Many phone calls and emails later, and a lot of stress, I am no closer to knowing if this is even possible. I've been sent to the FORUMS and you know what that means. Looking forward to hearing from you.

Hi, ArtLion,
I am moving your question to the Downloading, Installing & Setup forum. They are much more likely to have an answer for you.
Kirsti
Community Help & Learning team

Installing Elements 6 (non Admin account)

I have been reading the posts in the forum regarding Elements as this is software which I am considering for purchase with Barbara Brundage's book. I have recently switched to a mac which I love and don't want to introduce problems which I might be able to avoid by asking first. Permissions etc are new to me as my experience with Windows was just to run as Admin something I don't want to do in Leopard.
I posted in one thread http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=8912633#8912633
My initial concerns came from user reviews about the actual install which has now had more light shed on it as I run as a Standard user on my Mac. I have an Admin account created n day one but only use this to do my updates and install iWorks plus the new iLife when it arrives. Day to day I am a standard user but after reading the post I have linked I am now unsure if I could use Elements as a standard user even if I did the install from my Admin account.
I prefer to be a standard use on the Mac therefore would appreciate advice if it is possible to use Elements as myself or do I have to create another account (Admin user) which doesn't have all my photos etc in order to run Elements smoothly?
I am also considering Aperture but think I still need Elements for extra tools. Hopefully someone will know if this is possible as a standard user. My initial thoughts were to install from Admin account and then log out and start to use Elements as my own account but this is where the big question comes in after reading the way Adobe installs and works with permissions.
I will be prepared to wait rather than find I have introduced problems by the wrong type of install and use. Thanks for any advice, I have checked Adobe's forum and various read reviews but still haven't overcome my worries about this.

ld simply keep their photos in their Home Folder and use Photoshop Elements to process them.
Thank you Roger your help is appreciated as it helps with my other installs too.
I am still uncertain if Elements will work for me as a standard user as the other topic made me aware of problems which I presume would make my use as a standard user after the install troublesome?
Quote from http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1806242&start=30&tstart=0
+Elements needs to be installed by admin account, and to be run from the same account or you can run into a problem with certain things not working correctly. Some of the permissions on some of the files are just plain wrong. On my own install I went in and changed them to what they really ought to be so that everything works in all *admin accounts*.+
Thank you for your patience with my feeble understanding of the way Elements would work for me if I am not a day to day Admin. Hopefully I am thinking along the wrong path and I would be able to continue with my account setup using Elements after the Admin install.

Can I delete all files and users (including admin account) without re-installing SL?

I have a 1st generation Macbook Air, running Snow Leopard 10.6.8. Just bought myself a new MBA, want to sell the old one (privately, not soliciting here).
The original install disks were Leopard. I bought a family pack SL and upgraded the MBA at that point. Earlier this year I sold my old Mac Mini (when I upgraded) and included the SL install disks with that sale (stupid of me).
Now I want to sell the old MBA. Ideally, I'd have a clean install on SL on it, minus all previous files and accounts. I've done that before when selling old computers, reformatted / erased the HD, then reinstalled the OS. But I don't have the SL disk anymore, and I don't really want to pay for it just to prep this notebook for sale.
AFAICT, my options are:
wipe the HD and reinstall Leopard (the only OSX disks I have). Whoever buys it from me would need to upgrade to SL themselves, and from there to Lion if they want.
somehow try to delete all files and users without touching the current install of SL. I'm not terribly worried about security of what little information is on the MBA (nothing important to me), so I don't mind trashing files and then emptying trash instead of wiping the HD block by block.
Any ideas for how to do #2? I can trash all files/folders under /user, uninstall all applications and delete their folders from Library, uninstall all browsers except Safari and wipe the history from that...
Is there other stuff I should be deleting? plist files, maybe? I'm leery of messing around too much and disrupting the install of the underlying OS.
Can I also delete the admin account (or rename it "admin" with a generic default password?)?
Any other suggestions? Thanks.

Trashing files you have created is relatively easy. Getting rid of an account is a bit harder. Trashing the .plist files, etc., that may contain personal info is a lot harder, and there is always the risk that you will miss something.
Best, and easiest, and customary, is to do option #1 - wipe the drive and re-install the original OS from the original disk set. The receiver of the machine can then decide which OS they want to upgrade it to, and purchse accordingly.
The original disk set for that machine should be included with it when it is sold.

Can individual Adobe Air apps be installed without local admin permission into a user-owned folder?

Is this a supported scenario?
Windows 7 PC.
Adobe Air runtime (latest; 4.0) has been installed by an administrator using a local admin account and the eulaAccepted file is present under the "All Users" profile.
User logs in using her own account which does not have local admin rights.
User downloads an Air app and tries to install it to C:\Users\<username> where she has full write permissions to the disk.
What I observe when acting as the User is that the Windows UAC (security escalation to local admin rights) dialog pops up. Can anyone clearly state what the Adobe Air installer is doing that requires the UAC escalation when installing an app to a user's folder? Thanks.

Thanks for your reply, Chris. We're working around these problems by deploying the Air runtime + the application separately using an administration tool, which is fine for now.
I logged the question because I don't see any registry edits or privileged folder access taking place. I suspect that the UAC escalation has something to do with the "eulaAccepted" file; checking that it exists. I doubt that escalated permissions are really required for this. In the long term, it'd be good if this "use case" could be added to the test cycle of Air; perhaps the UAC dialog could be avoided, improving the flexibility of deployment options.
Ideally the test would start with an adminstrator-installed Air package *without* the EULA being accepted. The user should be able to install apps and approve the EULA without the UAC dialog popping up at all.

Installing apps from non-admin account

I read an earlier post that installing apps from a non-admin account is a bad idea because SL applies the wrong permissions. I normally install from a non-admin account.... I don't see that the permissions on stuff I've installed are any different from apps that came with SL. Most everything is drwxr-xr-x. Was this fixed, or am I missing the problem.

KJK555 wrote:
+"That isn't a problem at all. Applications should not require that the user have write+
+access to the application."+
I didn't say anything about a user having write access permission, I was talking about read
permissions. All apps installed in the /Applications directory should have group permissions
set to admin or wheel (depending on the type of app), so the system can read them without
problems. That's the Unix way.
I completely disagee. The system already has read permission to all applications in the /Applications folder. It doesn't matter what the group privilege is set to. The "other" permissions are set to read only. System (root) can read it regardless. If you can show me an Apple tech article that says that apps installed in the /Applications folder should have their group privilege changed to "admin" or "wheel" then I would gladly take that back.
+"Leopard does not put any ACLs on anything installed in the /Applications folder"+
That's right, it doesn't normally, but if it finds an app that it does not have permission
to read, it will assign an ACE(s) to it so that it can access it.
I just tested that in 10.5.8, and it does not happen as you say. I can't try it in 10.6. I'd appreciate if you could provide a specific example where you can make this happen.
Besides, all users, by default, have read only access to all applications. Unless a user specifically changes permissions on an app to deny read access to everyone, then this isn't an issue.
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1875193&start=60&tstart=0
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1866808&start=15&tstart=0
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=8776714&#8776714
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1850256&start=30&tstart=0
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=2351437&start=15&tstart=0
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=9447059&#9447059
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=9067640&#9067640
I know what ACLs are and how they work. I have read through those and cannot find in any of those threads anything about what you had been talking about.
+"That is also false. Root rights are granted by the user entering the admin username+
+and password when prompted. It does not matter where an application is installed in+
+order for it to be given root permission."+
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2963
"Application installers, Applications folder
A third-party application installer incorrectly sets permissions on the files it installs,
or even the entire Applications folder. Symptoms of the Application folder's permissions
being set incorrectly include applications appearing in the dock as question marks, and/or
not being able to connect to the Internet. It is also possible that software installed while
logged in as one user will be inaccessible when logged in as another. To avoid this, make sure
you are logged in with your normal user account when installing software that you wish to use
with that account."
That has to do with third party installer apps that developers have not written properly to conform to OS X standards. It isn't an issue with applications that install by drag-and-drop. It sounds to me like you have looked at the permissions that Apple has put on its own apps and jumped to the conclusion that third party apps won't work unless they have the exact same permissions applied to them. That simply isn't true.
"Software access=user access
Most applications executed by a user only have access to the files that the user has access to.
Backup software, for example, may not back up Mac OS X system files that have root ownership."
Utilities, especially disk utilities, are to be installed in the /Applications/Utilities folder, for reasons
stated above.
No. That is completely wrong. Like I said earlier, an application is given root permission by user authentication. It matters not one little bit what the application's enclosing folder is. I personally have no third party apps in /Applications/Utilities; just what Apple puts there as part of a standard OS X installation.
More permission tips:
http://www.bombich.com/mactips/image.html
http://mostlyslow.blogspot.com/2009/04/technical-mac-os-x-permissions-issues.htm l
Have you even read those? I suggest that you do; because most of what you have written about how file/folder/application permissions in OS X is completely wrong.

Admin account switched to standard with Lepard instal, please help!!

I'll try to make this quick and easy. I have a mac mini that came with 10.4.5. I continuously performed updates and had no problems until July. In July my computer completely crashed so I reinstalled 10.4.5. After the install I could not get the updates to work, I even went back and tried the the first update for 10.4.5. (Important note) at this time my admin account was still active and working. So with the computer not updating I decided to install Leopard. The Leopard update was successful except for the fact that my admin account was changed to a standard account. This is where the problems really starts. Please keep in mind that I have weeks of research into my problem and every solution I've tried so far has not worked. Here are just a few examples of what I have tried. I have tried to enable the root user through directory utility, accounts, 10.4.5 install disk utility reset password and a couple of other methods that I cant think of off the top of my head. Now hear are the problems I'm having. Some of the enable root options require an admin account and password. Other enable root options require that I go to certain files or folders to enable the root but with this option I don't have that file or folder and/or it does not work due to the fact that my computer is 10.4.5 and not 10.5 and newer. Now the last couple of options require that I run the install disc to reset password or that I trash everything and start from new. The problem with this is I can't get the install disk to run. I have tried to insert the disk, click on the install icon but it requires an admin name and password to preform a restart. I have kept the install disk in the drive and have performed restart and shut down/power up from the apple menu. I have powered down and back up with the power button. Now keep in mind that I have tried every option without holding down the "C" key and with holding down the "C" key with no results. So to sum this last bit up, no matter how I try to restart the computer the install disk will not run and my computer will boot up like normal and bring me to the desk top. One more note, I have tried all the restart options with the 10.4.5 disk and the leopard disc. At this point I want to start from scratch and perform an install of 10.4.5. At this point it does not mater if I loose everything since it is all backed up on an external HD. Please help I am open to all ideas and options.
Thanks, Dan

Dan, does it stat in Single User Mode? If so, we can get a new admin User.
applesetupdone...
This was Posted by: JoseAranda at September 9, 2006 3:48 AM
"OK, restart your computer, hold down Command-s and type in the following:
/sbin/fsck -fy Enter
/sbin/mount -uaw Enter
rm /var/db/.applesetupdone Enter
# The rm command is the remove command which deletes the file.
# Robert: I'd rename the file via: mv /var/db/.applesetupdone /var/db/.applesetupdone.old
reboot Enter
Once you've done that the computer reboots and it's like the first time you used the machine. Your old accounts are all safe. From there you just change all other account passwords in the account preferences!!
end of posted by: JoseAranda"
Reset OS X Password Without an OS X CD...
http://theappleblog.com/2008/06/22/reset-os-x-password-without-an-os-x-cd/

Lost Admin account while installing Leopard

While installing Leopard I've somehow lost my only Admin account. Consequently I can no longer install new software. I've attempted to boot backup using the Leopard install DVD and holding down the "C" key but it boots straight back into Leopard without the option to change the password. I've also attempted to boot into single user by holding down the Apple and "S" key but that didn't work ether. Of course attempting to reinstall Tiger doesn't work because I get a pop up that states it can't be installed. At this point I've ran out of options and look forward to any helpful suggestions.

Here is what I had to do:
Insert the 10.5 Install CD.
In the finder go to the 'Go' menu and select 'Go To Folder'
In the field provided type: /Volumes/Mac OS X Install DVD/Applications/Utilities and hit enter
Open the Startup Disk application
Select the install DVD as your start up disk. You must quit the start up disk app, it will not let you restart for it.
Restart the computer with the DVD in the drive.
You can now set or reset the password for the Administrator (root) account.
Set the start up disk as your normal start up disk. Reboot.
Log in with the id root and the password you set/reset
Open System Preferences
Select Accounts
Set the desired account to an admin accout.
Log out of root (This is VERY IMPORTANT)
log in to your admin account.
You may want to disable your root account at this point but since this issue could reoccur it may be better not to, though this creates certain security issues.
April.

Panther install without admin account?

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