Paragraph Rules - Showing at top of Columns

We are wanting to change from Quark to Indesign. In Quark, the "rule above" will not show when the text is at the top of a column. With Indesign. using the same styles and text, etc., the rule above shows up above the text outside the text box and I don't want it there in this particular instant. I just want the rule to show within the rest of the text. Not at the top of the column.
Any thoughts?
Here is an example of what I'm talking about. Notice the rule is outside the text frame. We don't want these to show up. The alternative is to place a white box on top of the text frame to cover these rules. Don't really like that idea. We need this to work similar to Quark.

Ideally it should be an option to either show it or not...
Feel free to make a feature request:
https://www.adobe.com/cfusion/mmform/index.cfm?name=wishform
Harbs

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                                                                                From:       Jim Leichliter <[email protected]>
To:         Dave Tressler <[email protected]>
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