Inserting paragraph rules into a nested style.
Is it possible to create a style which includes a paragraph rule which can be used in a nested style. Character styles do not seem to allow rules, and nested styles seem to use character styles only when they are being built.
The nested style is removing the paragraph rule at the mo and im struggling to see how to make it work.
Using InDesign 5.5
OK.
The example has been built in InDesign 5.5. We are building an excel data sheet which will be data merged. As i need it to all follow the same style I have given all the elements within the example a style. The blue rule can't be done as a character style so ive had to do it as a paragraph style. When i open up the nested styles pallette to set up how I want it to behave I cant include the paragraph rule. (indesign wont allow me) The rest is working fine as they are character styles.
Basicly what im trying to do is reproduce the style in the example with an image on the left, Title in blue bar at the top and the part number, description and price.
I figured a nested style would be the way forward but I cant get the blue bar (Paragraph Rule to display from the nested style)
I should point out that I rarely need to use nested styles so im sort of bashing about a bit to figure it out.
Thanks
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