Parallel accounting cost objects in non leading ledger
Hi Gurus,
I have implemented parallel accounting and have my leading ledger in INR and the non leading leading ledger in USD.
also i have the FI profit center and segment activated and for segmental reporting i am using the same.
I now need to report on segments in the non leading ledger also.
can i transfer the account assignments (like profit center and segment) to the non leading ledgers also.
Points will be awarded
regards
I've tried it.
It works properly.
I created a movement type for Area 30 Only.
Anyway I had to modifyT093A: 30 IAS Depreciation Area now has '00' in filed WRTAFB."Adoption of values from depreciation area" like the Area 01.
I have to capitalize values (also negative; correction) only in Area 30 (IAS), not also in Area 01 (APC zero value).
There's no other way to obtain that?
Depreciation Area 01 (master area) 30 (IFRS)
APC 0 1000
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I have implemented parallel accounting and have my leading ledger in INR and the non leading leading ledger in USD.
also i have the FI profit center and segment activated and for segmental reporting i am using the same.
I now need to report on segments in the non leading ledger also.
can i transfer the account assignments (like profit center and segment) to the non leading ledgers also.
regardsHi,
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if yes,
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I know it can not delete the sign ---open item.
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Open item management account as an adjustment account.
By your description the adjustment account for GL account is the same
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TejasHello,
I am not sure if I understand quesition correct.
1. Internal order per ledger - this link might give you some information.
FB50L FI-posting to an internal order
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direct output to Excel and drill down functionality for details.
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Cost center not updated when posting in non leading ledger
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I have two ledgers - Leading and Non Leading Ledger.
When I posted expense entry it updated both the ledgers and updated cost center value. This updated value i checked in cost center report KSB1.
For Ex: Rs. 1,00,000
Now I posted another expense entry in non leading ledger only. For Ex: Rs.50,000
How ever this entry didn't updated cost center report value. I checked in report KSB1
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1. Are there any cost center reports / profit center reports in controlling module where I can get non leading ledger specific amount in cost centers and profit centers
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You can verify is the cost center was posted on document running tcode SE16N on the FALGFLEXA table, put the document number to do research.
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Profir center determination in non leading ledger in tcode ABAA
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Depreciation A/c ..........Dr
To Accumualted Depreciation Account.
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Please advise.
ShaileshDear sir,
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[https://websmp105.sap-ag.de/~form/sapnet?_SHORTKEY=01100035870000688032&]
FAQsGeneral Ledger in mySAPERPSolution
In this document you will see the following section "Parallel Financial Accounting and Ledgers"
under which you will see the following stated
If a customer decides to use the New GL but only initially uses a single parallel
ledger (the leading Ledger). The customer then processes some transactions
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there a program that you can run to enable retrospective postingto a new non-
leading ledger?
SAP offers a service called SAP General Ledger Migration. For detail please see
chapter u201CMiscellaneousu201D.
More Information regarding u201CSAP General Ledger Migrationu201Dcan be accessed
using the quick link u2018GLMIGu2019on the SAP Service Marketplace (
http://service.sap.com/GLMIG). Please also see OSS-note 812919
with kind regards
Cora -
Tax Date Based Non Leading Ledger BS, TB and PnL
Hi Gurus
In our scenario, we will be using the Leading Ledger for Accrual Accounting, while the Non Leading Ledger will be used for Cash Accounting. It is required, for management effectiveness to capture transactions on accrual basis (leading ledger), but as far as tax reporting is concerned, it will be on cash basis (non leading ledger).
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My question is, is there a way to use TAX DATE or some other date field for Non Leading Ledger, and have the tax reports generated on that basis? Mind you, the purpose of cash accounting is for statutory and tax purposes. So we need to be able to draw financial statements based on cash accounting.
Would greately apprecaite if any of you can help me guide to a possible solution. I have the following options:
1 - Create a report that will use (somehow) a logic to capture the transactions based on tax date
2 - Find a User Exit to capture the actual cash flow date and use it to generate the tax/ statutory reports
3 - Use Tax Date field to store the cash flow date and use it to generate the tax/ statutory reports
Any suggestions welcome!
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MandarHi,
using different ledgers for parallel accounting ( eg IFRS, US-GAAP, Indian-GAAP...) is not a matter of tax procedure assigned to a country and company code(s) assigned to a country.
The tax law for a country/tax jurisdiction code does not depend on which reporting standard you use (IFRS, US-GAAP, Indian-GAAP...).
Best regards, Christian -
Difference in ABST2 in non leading ledger for 2nd LC AA and 2nd LC GL
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While executing ABST2 there is difference in our non leading ledger ,we have recently created new dep. area 33 which updates the values in 2nd LC AA for non leading ledger but value in 2nd LC GL is different from what we have in Asset for non leading ledger Z1 .
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We have mantain dep area 34 also as per SAP Note 1433535 but still there is difference in ABST2.
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AkshataHello Akshata,
If you want to setup a scenario in Fixed Asset Accounting, where
you post different valuations (local GAAP / IFRS) to a different ledger
group in G/L for parallel valuation, then you have to use (in total) 3
depreciation areas in the following way. For each additional "valuation"
for which you have additional ledgers defined in G/L, and for which you
want to get different values as those posted in area 01, you need also
two additional depreciation areas (1 real and and 1 derived area) in
asset accounting.
Please consider a correct definition of a parallel ledger scenario
is as follow: this is an example only
Posting to G/L Ledger
Area 01 HGB 1 0L > STATUTORY
Area XX IAS 3 LG > (IAS)
Area YY (IAS - HGB) 5 or 6 LG > (IAS)
Acquisition/transf/retirement postings in area 01 go to all ledgers
independently of your setting in OADB. And, if any difference occurs
between area 01 an area XX this is posted trough the derived area YY
(posting indicator 6).
This is the parallel ledger scenario logic and how the techinal
solution to this requirement was developped.
You can find more documentation about the so-called "Ledger Scenario" in
Asset Accounting for the purpose of parallel valuation in the SAP Help
Portal. You may find these links helpful:
a) Parallel Accounting in Asset Accounting
http://help.sap.com/erp2005_ehp_04/helpdata/EN/91/09f5400e517e7fe1000000
0a1550b0/content.htm
b) Parallel Valuation
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp60_sp/helpdata/en/4f/71ea61448011d189f000
00e81ddfac/content.htm
c) Making Settings for Parallel Ledgers in FI-AA
> this one documents my above explanation
http://help.sap.com/erp2005_ehp_04/helpdata/EN/0d/de3d83c78b48a28a44ad92
14239d57/content.htm
d) Example: Parallel Accounting and the Derived Depreciation Area
> this one describes how the derived area acts in the scenario
http://help.sap.com/erp2005_ehp_04/helpdata/EN/37/ebad814b3347e9bc5182c0
56d5bbd8/content.htm
kind regards
Ray -
Balance Carryforward - Non-Leading Ledger
Hello SAP'ers,
We have 2 ledgers, 1 leading of course with a Fiscal Year of June to May, and one non-leading ledger with a fiscal year of April to March. I can't find any documentation on when to run the balance carryforward program for the non-leading ledger. We have started FY2009 for our non-leading on April 1/ Do I run FAGLGVTR - Balance Carryforward (New), for the non-leading ledger only? I know in June I will run it for the leading. SAPs info is fuzzy regarding the non-leading carryforward process.
Thanks for your help.
JImHello,
I am not sure if I understand quesition correct.
1. Internal order per ledger - this link might give you some information.
FB50L FI-posting to an internal order
You can report internal orders per cost element (acutal and plan)
Use reports in: SAP Menue/ Information Systems/Accounting/Controlling/Reports for Internal Orders/Summarization Reports or/and More Reports
as an instance: S_ALR_87013010
direct output to Excel and drill down functionality for details.
2. GL balances per ledger: use F.08 and select ledger, then you have report per ledger
Let me know if this is what you have expected.
all the best Erwin -
Creating depreciation area for non leading ledger
Hi,
I want to configurate a depreciation area for a non-leading ledger. This is my scenario:
01-Accounting area leading ledger. Group legder: 0L (on line)
02- Accounintg area non leading ledger. Group ledger N1 (Area posts APC only directly)
03-Depreciation non leading ledger. Grouo ledger N1 (Area posts depreciation only)
Is it correct to created this 2 areas for non leading ledger?
Thanks,
CeciliaHi Cecilia,
additionally to my colleagues:
For each additional set of accounting principles, you create one real and one derived depreciation area.
Real Depreciation Area:
1. In Customizing for Financial Accounting (New), choose Asset Accounting - Valuation - Depreciation Areas -Define Depreciation Areas.
2. Assign both depreciation areas to the same ledger group.
The ledger group you assign them to is not allowed to contain the leading ledger.
3. In the Posting in G/L field, choose Area Posts Depreciation Only.
Derived Depreciation Area:
It is easiest to create the derived depreciation area using the Wizard.
4. In Customizing for Financial Accounting (New), choose Asset Accounting - Valuation - Depreciation Areas - Set Up Areas for Parallel Valuation.
5. In the Posting in G/L field, choose Area Posts APC Only. Specify that this derived depreciation area represents the difference between the real depreciation area for parallel accounting and the
master depreciation area.
You do not have to set up a separate account set for these new depreciation areas. Instead you use the account set of the master depreciation area. In this scenario, you do not have to create any new accounts in the chart of accounts or in the company code. You also do not have to create a new financial statement version.
So a typical dep.area setting for a parallel ledger at you is like:
T093
AFABER ABVOR1 AFABE1 ABVOR2 AFABE2 BUHBKT LDGRP_GL
01...............................00...........................00............1.............0L
02...............................00...........................00............3.............N1
03..................+...........01............ - ............02............6.............N1
Regards Bernhard -
Retrospective Posting in Non-Leading Ledger
Hi there,
Please advise if it is possible to update the previous transactions in the non-ledaing ledger, which will be activated later; after the leading ledger has been gone live for few months.
How can this be done?
Thank you.Hi,
at the moment it is not posible to fulfill the scenario that you decribed. In my opinion it does not mak sense to active a non leading ledger some month later then the leading ledger. To have more than one ledger means that we are talking about parallel accounting and therfore all the ledgers have to be implemented at the same time
Kind regards
Thomas
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