Password indirection using password-manager

Hi
I'm trying to set up password indirection for my connection to our data source.
The documentation states that you should add the <password-manager> element in the system-application.xml file.
However, the xsd doesn't allow this! It has the password-manager element defined, but not referenced from within the orion-application element.
Am I missing a trick here? Where is it meant to go?!?
Thanks
Paul

Paul -- that wasn't required the last time I used our PW indirection.
http://download-west.oracle.com/docs/cd/B14099_19/web.1012/b14012/datasrc.htm#sthref533
The 10.1.3 doc looks quite similar:
http://download-west.oracle.com/docs/cd/B31017_01/web.1013/b28958/datasrc.htm#CHDJGJFE
As far as I recall, all you needed to do was to ensure the same username was entered as an OC4J JAAS username in the user manager that the application was using. And then in the data-source (or CP nowadays) definition, specify "->username" as the password field. The container would follow the link and work out what the password was.
Can you post the doc link you are reading this in here so I can have a look at what's written? It may be talking about the general jazn-user-manager applied to the application. Which you don't need to muck with to make this work in most cases.
cheers
-steve-

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KeyPass is a great open-source program for secure creation, storage and use of login passwords and other information. With a plugin called KeeForm, it allows very convenient automatic login to password-protected sites by clicking on a KeePass entry. To preclude unintended access to all of your secure information, it is wise to close Keepass after each use, or set Keepass to lock when minimized. But this is less convenient, because a long secure master password then has to be entered before each use of Keepass.
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http://prowiki.isc.upenn.edu/wiki/ThinkVantage_Software_Under_Windows_Vista
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(ii) PM then gets confused by ‘hidden' entry of a master password during fingerprint login to KeePass, and repeatedly tries to save ****** as a changed master password;
(iii) PM also tries to automatically register each entry opened for editing within KeePass;
(iv) PM tries to automatically register other logins even if they are managed through KeePass.
(v) Your KeePass records are now only as secure as your PM login (which is likely to be your Windows login).
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The best workarounds I could develop for these five issues were:
(i) To register KeePass in PM, first ensure that PM is running (icon in the system tray). Then launch KeePass, click the login window box for unobscured password display (three blue dots turn black), enter the master password and click OK to start KeePass as usual.
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The title field must be "Open database - database.kdb", to match the title of the KeePass login window.
The file name field should show the full path to KeePass.exe (something like C:\Program Files\KeePass\PeePass.exe depending on your installation).
The login and password data field is accessed by double clicking the entry. It will need to show only your KeePass master password (in the unobscured text view). In login and password data, delete each line of unwanted text until you get to the final password line (shown as *****), and edit this line to provide your master password.
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PM (v3.00) can be coy to associate initially, but it will accept KeePass (v1.14) as a password-managed program, and thereafter it reliably succeeds to auto-submit the KeePass login after some help described in (ii) below.
(ii) Having sent the correct master password to the KeePass login window, PM becomes confused by the ‘hidden' text now in the password field, and offers to change its record of your KeyPass master password to ******. You can manually select ‘No' in the PM changed-password dialogue box that appears every time you use PM / fingerprint for KeePass login. But Beware: if you ever accidentally select ‘Yes' (the default) your KeePass master password record in PM will be changed to ******. This can be edited to provide the correct password again, but it is more than a minor pain in the AR5E. Unless you know (or have a backup of) your KeePass master password you just lost access to your KeePass database!
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Please substitute ) where you see smileywink: in the vbs scripts above - I can't get this forum window to stop automatically translating the " ) sequence of text (without a space) as an emoticon.
This batch file approach should work with additional startup switches for KeePass, for example the /backup.path: switch used by ‘another backup' plugin (or you can use the db_backup plugin that works from the KeePass.ini file). Quotes are needed around any entry with spaces. But some things that ‘should work' such as just writing "KeePass.exe" instead of the full path in line 4 of the batch file do not give the same outcome for me. This may be an effect on timing of the switch of focus between windows - so if you strike a problem it may be worth experimenting with the delay time set through the sleep script.
If you set KeePass to lock when minimised, you will have to deal manually with the PM changed-password dialogue every time you re-access KeePass. So it is simpler to close rather than minimise KeePass after each use and restart it when needed, via the batch file.
(iii) You have to tell PM ‘No' whenever it offers to save an entry that is edited in KeePass. This is less of a nuisance, because entries rarely need to be edited once set up in Keepass. There is no way to turn off this requirement. If you select ‘Never' it will prevent use of PM and therefore fingerprint entry to start KeePass (not just the edit window).
(iv) Turn off internet login within PM. This will leave all internet logins to KeePass. Unfortunately you can not set PM to only allow a single program login (KeePass), but you can set it to exclude specific programs, so do that for other programs that you access via KeePass.
(v) Finally, set PM security within CSS so that a fingerprint (or a password if the fingerprint reader fails) is needed every time PM is launched (not just once per boot). Similarly, set KeePass security this way within PM. Otherwise (if you set the requirement to once per boot) your passwords are open to inspection while you are away from your booted computer.
Caution: How secure is your Windows login password? Most likely this is also your PM login password, so it now allows access to your KeePass database! Make sure that it is a unique, secure and preferably memorable password.
How close are we now to the desired combination of security and convenience?
Click on the KeePass shortcut to the batch file given above, swipe the fingerprint, wait while CSS works, then click on the relevant Keepass entry to access any password-protected site or application in your Keypass list - great convenience.
Security is very strong - both KeePass and PM are extremely secure unless you use a weak or insecure master password or select less secure settings.
Starting (or opening a locked instance of) KeePass without the batch file given above requires a couple of extra carefully-placed clicks in the process to tell PM not to mess up its entry for KeePass, then to complete KeePass startup. This is less convenient, and a mistake could prevent future database access - so the batch file method is recommended.
A final caution (while enjoying secure & convenient logins):
Beware - fingerprint access is so convenient that you may forget your master passwords! Eventually they will be needed! You may click the wrong button in PM, suffer a faulty fingerprint reader or change computers! Then you must recall your master passwords before you can access your password file (and possibly your computer). This could be devastating: loss of all secure password information in KeePass and PM (and possibly loss of all information on a protected computer drive, not to mention need to pay for a computer motherboard and HDD replacement). So:
1. Choose very secure but ‘unforgettable' master passwords for KeePass and computer (PM) access.
2. Always set up a secure master password as an alternative to biometric authentication (in case of a faulty fingerprint reader).
3. Keep your password database backups, and your separate master password backups, in another secure (preferably encrypted) but accessible location!
Program versions tested:
KeePass v1.14 (v2 betas not tested) with KeeForm v2 and DB_Backup v1.14
Lenovo CSS v8.20 with PM v3.00
The solutions were tested in November 2008 on a Thinkpad X61 running Windows Vista Business. The tricks to interface with KeePass can vary between fingerprint programs (search the KeePass forum).
Message Edited by r_g_b on 11-03-2008 07:01 PM
Message Edited by r_g_b on 11-04-2008 12:00 AM

I'm reviving quite an old topic here, but I have been unable to find any other good information on this. I currently use the latest version of Keepass v2.23 and have Lenovo Passoword Manager v4.3 installed on my new W530 laptop. I can't get PM to recognize any passowords at all, in web browsers or in windows application.
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