Payer Account

I need to create a payer account with partner function ship to and bill to but not sold to. Can anyone guide me, please.
I tried creating a customer master data with a payer as account group but i encountered an error in setting up SH. The error is "in table TPAER, the entry RG SH is missing".

Hello,
I think u need to set up an account group with payer, ship to and bill to . then create a payer . During Partner determination u need to make payer mandatory field and add ship to and bill to to it. Then u can create a payer with ship to and bill to. TPAER table is partner determination table.
Regards
Vittal

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what is the difference between Payer account groups and a payer?
Plz explain.
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A Payer is the individual or company who settles the invoices foa a service or for delivered goods.
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Which screens and fields are necessary for entering master data
Whether you can or must make an entry in these fields
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This has me confused? Ebill will always occur that is not the same as the payment account. Do you have automatic bill pay as well?
If you go on to your my Verizon web portal and log in, under bill pay you can add the new payment card or bank account as a NEW payer account.
When I pay my invoice I sometimes alternate between cards, so I have both entered into the Verizon payment system. These accounts can also be edited if need be since sometimes your expiration date has to be changed, or your number on the account has to be changed. It is a real easy fix.
There is a big difference from paperless billing and automatic bill paying. One you view the invoice the other is an automated payment feature.
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Vendor "Account holder" information to be transmitted to bank

Dear All,
I have a requirement where for one of the Vendor, Payer Account holder information is different that the Vendor name.
The requirement is that 'Account Holder' information should be transmitted to bank while payment is done through F110.
Would appreciate if you can let me know where the config is maintained. Also let me know how the testing can be done to check as to which name is getting transmitted to bank.
Best regards,
Karan a

Hi,
If the address is right and you have only a different name, you may enter this name in the "Account hold" field of the "Payment transaction" screen (field LFBK-KOINH).
If the address is also different, you may create another supplier and put his number in the "alternative payee" field, either at supplier level (LFA1-LNRZA) either at company code level (LFB1-LNRZB).
In the last case, the right name and address will be transmitted to the bank in any case. In the first case, it may depent from the country, but with DMEE it's right, the field FPAYH-KOINH if filled with the contents of REGUH-HOINH (account holder) if not empty and with ZNME1 (supplier's name) in other cases (it's working fine in Luxembourg with DMEE engine and standard tree).
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Separate Bank accounts for AP and AR

Hi SAP Gurus,
My client want to have Separate Bank accounts for AP and AR, for different reasons, I want to know how this configured in SAP and also I want to know what is standard process followed across SAP implementations
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Hello,
Let me add a note on this subject.
This setup has its advantages.
A separate AR and AP bank account is really useful when you have a returned payment.
If an incoming amount arrives to your AP ( payer ) account it definately means it is a rejected transfer.
It helps a lot to reconlile the accounts.
Mark was absolutely right on the following:
This process really depends on Cash Management (Treasury).
Cash Management needs to pool the accounts so they can balance cash easily.
Good luck!
Best regards,
Endre

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HI,
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debug the data source RSA3 level..
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Customer Master - payer

hi all,
i want to know
1. what is the exact functionality of "Payer" in customer master?
2. if i dont assign this customer to any other customer how the GL's for the same will get updated or how can i do the transactions against this payer?
3. is it copulsary to assign this payer to other customer i.e. sold to party?
4. my user want me to create only payer and not to assign the same to any other sold to party.
i have searched in net but could not able to get the proper reply.
need your help.
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Ashwini K.

Hi Ashwini,
1. what is the exact functionality of "Payer" in customer master?
In SAP the Sales Orders are created for Sold to Party's , Deliveries for Ship to Party's and Invoices for Payers.
In several big customer organizations it so happens that they may have several branches spread across different regions and many times these organizations present at different places might place orders independently and in turn the ordered goods are supplied to that particular location itself and the payment might be done from the place to where the goods were delivered to and not from the HO. In such cases the customer might need more than one payer master and all these payers will have there own accounting.*
2. if i dont assign this customer to any other customer how the GL's for the same will get updated or how can i do the transactions against this payer?
As mentioned above Invoices are created for the payer. The sold to and the payer may be the same in some cases or different, depending on how the buisness requires it. When an invoice is created the customer account i.e. the payer account and the other accounts like the sales revenuew account, sales deduction accounts and the tax accounts gets posted.
3. is it copulsary to assign this payer to other customer i.e. sold to party?
Yes it is mandatory to assign the payer to the sold to. In some cases as mentioned above the sold to and the payer might be same but in other cases it might be different.
4. my user want me to create only payer and not to assign the same to any other sold to party.
You can create only a payer master but this will not make any sense or will not be of any use until and unless it is assigned to a sold to party
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J Nagesh.

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Dear Raj,
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Useful TCodes:
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Sold to Party rebate

Hi,
We have a scenario where the Sold to and the payer differs. In this case we need to give the Rebate to the Sold to party and not the Payer.
Standard SAP looks at Payer for the rebate. Could you help me with a work around?
Is there an user exit, some modifcation which can be done wwhcih will link the rebate amount to the Sold to party, we will then manage this through a report.
Any ideas, Tips are welcome.
thanks in advance.
Supreeth

Remember, I need not see you personally but can assess individuals by the words used in their query. You used 'user exits' which usually advanced users are allowed to work on real life.
OK lets forget the past.
*I worked on your requirement and it worked for me. I am giving detail steps. It should work for you too. I am giving steps for creating rebate agreement based on customer / material. *
- Go to IMG - SD- Billing - Rebate processing - condition technique for rebate processing
- click maintain access sequences for example select access sequence B002.
- click accesses
- select access which has description 'customer / material'
click fields.
You can see field with label "payer".
The reason why the system calculates rebates for payer is because of this field in access sequence.
Now lets work on your requirement
- Create a new condition type for e.g ZKAM (copy it from existing condition type say B002)
- Create a new access sequence for e.g ZKAM (copy it from existing access sequence say B002). select copy so that it would copy all records.
- select accesses and after that select access which has description customer / material
- click fields
- select the field 'KUNNR' with label 'payer'.
- select the field catalog button at bottom and you would be in display view "fields" overview button
- locate the field 'KUNNR' which has label name 'sold to party'
- double click this field and you would be back in change view "fields" screen but now "sold to party is selected.
- save it
- now go back to condition type ZKAM and add your newly created access sequence ZKAM to it. 'Access sequence' field is at the top & save it.
- Now select maintain pricing procedures. select your pricing procedure lets say standard 'RVAA01'.
- select step which has condition type B002 (In SAP standard step number is 902).
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- In Assign Condition Types/Tables To Condition Type Groups, select condition type group 0002, using copying function copy it and change 'cntr' to 2 and 'cnty' to ZKAM and save it.
- In Assign condition type groups to rebate agreement types, see whether your agreement type is assigned to condition type group '0002'.
In Easy Access
- In the customer master record, indicate that sold to party is relevant for rebates.
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- Activate your sales orgn & billing types relevant for rebates.
- Create rebate agreement type by using agreement type ZKAM. In conditions button select condition type as ZKAM and complete the data required.
- create sales order for sold to party, deliver it, complete billing.
- go back to your rebate agreement type and see whether rebate has been processed for sold to party.

HAI SD EXPERS KINDLY LET ME KNOW

HERE ARE SOME INT QUESTIONS , KINDLY LET ME KNOW THE ANSWERS
1.In a sales order, if you want to give rs 10000 more than the credit limit to your customer how do you process this scenario
2.Mention some latest tickets L1 solved in ur support project
3.how will u configure batch jobs
4.what are the fields in purchase requisition
5.what is RMA process
6.how you will create nodes in customer hierarchy
7.suppose you want to offer two different materials as free for one material , how do u process this
8.you find terms of payment in two pages in customer master data, what is the role of the two
9.what is the difference b/n item cat group and general item cat group found in material master
10.what is the link b/n pricing procedure and credit management
11.what is as is & to be process
12.tell me about your experiences in support & imp projects
13. what do u know abt documetation and how u have done that in ur project
14.diff b/n user exits and enhancements
15.If the business offer diff rates on the material basing on the quantity, and the break up should appear in the sales order which carries the net value how do u customize this
THESE ARE VERY MUCH PRACTICAL KINDLY EXTEND UR HELP
KISHORE
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1.In a sales order, if you want to give rs 10000 more than the credit limit to your customer how do you process this scenario
Settings for determining the credit control area of a document. The settings of items 1 - 4 are taken into account according to their priority. The credit control area found is stored in field VBAK-KKBER.
1. Transaction OB38
   Check which credit control area is assigned to the company code.
   Company code:
   Credit control area:
2. Transaction OVFL
   Check which credit control area is assigned to the sales area.
   Sales area:
   Credit control area:
3. Transaction XD02 or VD02
   Check which credit control area is assigned to the payer.
   Payer:
   Credit control area:
4. Transaction SE37
   is user exit EXIT_SAPV45K_001 being used?
5. Transaction OBZK
   For the settings under items 2 - 4, field "All company codes" must be marked in Transaction
   OB45, or the credit control area must be entered under the relevant company code in table
   T001CM of the credit control areas allowed.
   Company code:
   Credit control areas allowed:
6. Settings for the credit checks
7. Transaction OVAK
   which settings do exist for the sales document type used?
   Sales document:
   Check credit:
   Credit group:
8. Transaction OVAD
   which settings do exist for the delivery type used?
   Delivery type:
   Credit group for delivery:
   Credit group for goods issue:
9. Transaction OB01
   Credit management/Change risk category
   Definition of the risk category for each credit control area. This risk category can be
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10. Transaction OVA8
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    o credit control area
    o risk category
    o credit group are set. Take these key fields from the above settings and go to the detail
      screen. In particular, check whether fields "Reaction" and "Status/block" are set
      correctly. To carry out follow-up actions in case of a credit block, the credit check
      status must be set (field "Status/block").
11. Transaction FD32
    Credit master data for the payer of the relevant document.
    Credit account:
    Credit limit:
    Risk category:
    Currency:
12. Settings for updating the credit values Update of the credit values is required for the limit
    check (static or dynamic credit limit check).
13. Transaction OVA7
    Update of the credit value is active for the corresponding item type if the check box is marked. This field corresponds to
    field "Active receivable" in Transaction VOV7.
    Item type:
    Active receivable:
14. Transaction V/08, Pricing
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    determining the credit value (mark the pricing procedure and double-click on "Control").
    Usually, the net value plus taxes is used. This way the system is determined to use this
    subtotal for credit pricing. The credit price is stored in field VBAP-CMPRE and used for
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15. Transaction OB45
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4.what are the fields in purchase requisition
http://www.olemiss.edu/projects/sap/Purchasing-_New_Required_Fields_on_PR_and_PO.pdf
5.what is RMA process
Return Materials Authorization
6.how you will create nodes in customer hierarchy
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2) Set partner determination: if you want to user the hierarchy in price determination, then, in the orders, at the header level, you have to have a Partner Procedure with a partner function for each level. In the partner procedure, in each partner function you must indicate the source partner function. With this informacition, in the order, you obtain the bussiness partner for each partner function.
3) Assign acount groups: you indicate which accounts groups are allowed for being part or your hierarchy.
4) Assign sales areas: symple you indicate wich sales areas are allowed in your hierarchy. (Here you can customize common sales areas, just for not having to build de hierarchy in all the different sales areas).
5) Assigning hierarchy type for pricing: you indicate which classes of documentos uses hierarchy in pricing determination.
It is possible to maintain so called customer hierarchies. This might be useful when for example you create a condition discount for a customer that is part of such a hierarchy structure. All subnodes in the hierarchy below that customer, will thus receive the same discount.
Customer hierarchy setup, firstly decide the hierarchy type to be used.
The standard is type A.
You can also assign a partner function to the customer so that the higher level customer in the hierarchy is copied into a sales order as a partner function - but you don't need that right?
Next assign your customer account group to the hierarchy type. And enter the combinations that will be allowed for creating the hierarchy.
You want to assign a ship-to to a payer. So enter the ship to account group and enter the payer account group as the higher level.
You must also make an entry for permitted sales area assignments. So if you want to a hierarchy for customers in the same sales area then enter the sales area and enter the same one as the higher level sales area.
All these settings can be found in the IMG. Under SD - master data - business partners - customers - customer hierarchy
7.suppose you want to offer two different materials as free for one material , how do u process this
Free goods processing - Exclusive method

Rebate Volume Postings and Subsequent File Production

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The purchasing vendor represents a very big company (like ABCD) that has manufacturing plants all across regions with head offices in one location.
Buyers place the order at the head office level therefore - to the purchasing vendor.
But the goods ordered are likely delivered from a manufacturing location (not the head office) - a sub-provider, if you will, of Boeing.
Then the invoice for the goods supplied are likely received from yet another location such as a shared service organization of the supplying company.
In order not to have to create 3 separate vendors in this case, to track these activities; one main vendor is created (the purchasing vendor) and the remit- to vendor (that vendor which sent us the invoice and to which we will send our payment) is added as a "partner" on the purchasing vendor ( as is the sending vendor and the contact vendor and any number of other relational vendors) that all tie back to the Boeing purchasing vendor in different partnerships.
When we process purchase orders in SAP, the purchasing vendor is on the PO. Based on the partners defined on that vendor, the account posting for the invoice when the goods are received goes to the remit-to vendor. That is when accounting knows we owe a vendor for supplies - based on the balance on their remit-to vendors.
My issue: The volumes that are getting updated via rebate settlement are getting added to the purchasing vendor number - so accounting has a vendor that has charged us for goods; but the volumes are being posted to another vendor entirely.
In order to settle the rebates, accounting has to take the unpaid balance of the vendor and net it against what we are owed as a rebate. If the volumes are not updating this vendor, we have no way of tying our rebate to that vendor. It is sitting on the purchasing vendor (which accounting does not make any payments to and therefore cannot post a rebate to).

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In-House Cash - Internal Payment Order is NOT created.

Hi.
I already finished all customize needed to post the internal payment order.
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The message below is remaining. (Other messages were cleared.)
Error message - Payment order IHC/0100000002/2011 was not posted(Message no. IHC298)
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After processing of Automatic Payment Transaction (T-code: F110) on the subsidiary's server,
inbound IDoc (Message type: PAYEXT) doesn't process on the IHC server,
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Bank JP 9990009 is assigned either to no bank area or to more than one
I already checked all customize corresponding the BANK AREA,
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F110 bank charges where to maintain??

Dear Expert,
I am configuring the automatic payment and client required that the bank charges bear by which party will depend on the transaction. I know that I could maintain the instruction key on vendor master data to inform SAP whether bank charges is deduct from beneficiary account or payer account.
However, for example, for overseas transfer the client need to pay USD10 for bank charges, I mainatained the instruction key 13 on the vendor master data that it pay by beneficiary account. But where to maintain in SAP the USD 10 so when I run F110 the USD 10 bank charge will deduct from the total amount pay and post it to bank charges account?
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Hi Zubin,
As far as I know the setting you suggested is only for pritning on the form and no bank charges poting will be carried on. Further more, the setting is only allowed to maintain one currency for bank charges but my problem is the bank charges could be in different currencies.
Dear other experts,
If you have better solutions appreciate you could share with me.
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Change of ownership of a customer site in SAP

Hi
By change of ownership, we're talking about a customer site (physical outlet/store) changing owners from Owner A to Owner B. Owner A and Owner B can be totally different customers with different Payer details.
Currently we are creating a new Sold-To for Owner B and then making the old Sold-To (owner A) "inactive" which has led to a bit of a mess. We'd like to avoid having to create a new Sold-To each time a change of ownership occurs.
One option we're considering is to update the existing Sold-To account (for the phsyical outlet/store i.e Owner A) with the details of Owner B but create an Ex-Payer account (i.e dummy payer account that is no longer linked to the Sold-To) for Owner A and a separate Payer account for owner B that is linked to the Sold-To. This way we can manage debt collection/claims on the old owner through the Ex-Payer account and manage payments /invoices for new orders on Payer account for owner B.
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Can we use the Head Office / Branch concept in some way to deal with the above mentioned change of ownership scenario?
What is the best practice way of handling a change of ownership of a physical outlet (sold-To) in SAP ?
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Kind Regards
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Hi
This is an interesting scenario. Creating a new customer and leaving old one as orphan doesn't sound a good idea. What you have shared is the best approach I think. You are creating new Payer and assigning that to existing sold to party and changing the name address etc of that sold to party is the good approach. With this you could have financial information of old owner separately and you can start new business with new owner.
Head office and branch customer is not for this purpose. That is something else which you may have already read that. Thats kind of parent child relation but in your case your ownership is changing so I think you are already doing good.
Thank$

Rebate Agreement accruals invoice reports

Hi Team,
As per my client requirement we need to prepare the below rebate agreement accruals invoice report.
Rebate agreement
Rebate recipent
Customer
Invoice date
Invoice
Invoice Item Number
Rebate Material
Rebate material net quantity
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Rebate accural condition ( % or $)
Total Rebate amount
GST
20000
123456 (payer)
1000
01.01.2014
987654321
110
ABC
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10.00 $
$ 10.00
$ 10.00
20000
123456 (payer)
1000
01.01.2014
987654321
140
ZYX
5
5.00 $
$ 0/50
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We have prepared the report using rebate tables and achieved the results but we missed below one logic here.i.e.
Business want to maintain the rebate accruals condition records for few customers accounts in the rebate agreement although it’s not related to rebate receipts account.
Example: rebate agreement: 20000
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2) Customer # 9999 and material # ZXY – 5.0% - Not appearing the report – Status: Failed
Customer # 9999 is Payer – 88888 – both accounts are don’t have any PF relationship with rebate receipts # 123456
When Rebate Condition records are maintaining for Rebate receipt related to customer (SP) account & material combination level in this scenario – Reports working fine .However, few scenarios like business need to maintain rebate accrual condition records for other payer customer accounts in the same agreement in this scenario – Reports is not pulling the invoice accruals due to logic missing our early logic given based on the rebate recipient customer level. I am excepting a technical logic with functional details in this.
Could you please help me.
Cheers,
Jackon Robert

Hi Omer,
Proposal:
Setup your rebate condition as amount = 0 and accruals = $
The system will do the accounting movements for the accruals as usual
When doing the final settlement in SD, nothing will be credited to the customer as the rebate condition is zero BUT the accruals will be reversed (as usual when doing the final settlement).
That should work because it is standard SAP logic.
On the other hand, it is a pity not to be able to credit the customer if you already have the rebate agreement created in the system.
Are you 100% positive about this legal issue in your business environment?
I did a few rebate projects in FMCG and it is standard practice to send credit memo to the rebate recipient: The Customer (Payer in SAP).
Nobody ever said it was a problem, because practically speaking it is just one more credit note to the same customer that was invoiced beforehand!
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