Difference in P.account groups and Payer

what is the difference between Payer account groups and a payer?
Plz explain.
Thanks

A Payer is the individual or company who settles the invoices foa a service or for delivered goods.
Whereas the account group determines:
Which screens and fields are necessary for entering master data
Whether you can or must make an entry in these fields
How master record numbers are assigned (externally by you or internally by the system) and the number range from which they are assigned
Which partner functions are valid
Whether the business partner is a one-time customer or one-time vendor.
Reward if useful.
Amruta

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The account group is a way to divide vendors into groups for reporting later on.
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A Payer is the individual or company who settles the invoices foa a service or for delivered goods.
Whereas the account group determines:
Which screens and fields are necessary for entering master data
Whether you can or must make an entry in these fields
How master record numbers are assigned (externally by you or internally by the system) and the number range from which they are assigned
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Whether the business partner is a one-time customer or one-time vendor.
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Account Group Controls the Master records. It controls the number range of Master record and Field status group (Supress, Required, Optional and Display) also. SAP follows a Grouping principle all throughout SAP to handle the Master Records that may be in GL, AR AP any thing. See to create a GL Account group you define at OBD4 there itself you assign the Number Range or those groups which also controls Field Staus of GL Master Records. And for Creating AR and AP Master Records you create at OBD2 and Vendor at OBD3 which will also controls Field Status Group of And Number range of Master record. The only difference between GL and AR/AP is assigning of number range. For GL will specify at OBD4 itself but for AR/AP we need to create a number range at FBN1 then assign to AR And AP at OBD2 and OBD3 respectively.
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2.1.1     Account Group
2.1.1.1       Maintain Number Range for Account Group
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The purpose of this activity is to control number range of Account Group.
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IMG --> Financial Accounting (New) --> Accounts Receivable and Accounts Payable --> Customer Accounts --> Master Data --> Preparations for Creating Customer Master Data --> Create Number Ranges for Customer Accounts --> Select the Icon to maintain Number Range
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No | From      | To | Current No | Ext (Tick in Check Box)
01 | 0000000001 | 0000099999 | 0 | No
02 | 0000100000 | 0000299999 | 0 | No
XX | A | ZZZZZZZZZZ |      Yes
2.1.1.2       Assign Number Range to Account Group
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Account Group and partner functions in customer master records

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1. To create customer master record for partner function Ship-To, need to create a customer master record using the uniquely assigned account group for Ship-To , that is, 0002 . In this ship-to master record, define in its partner function tab, the other partner functions related to it.
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1. yes you are right.
2. you need to follow the steps as you said.
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1. that you can find in the search basing on account group for partners. that assignment we should know russo which SH to be assigned to which SP. no need to have authorization for that, make a note of the list of SH and SP to be assigned that's all.
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2. that you will be defining it in Partner Determination Procedures. at the time of CMR creation you have to select the correct code that will get populated in sales order.
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