PCA in New G/L

Hello Guys,
As I had read in documentation, the new g/l functionality has now the PCA functionality. What I couldn't find is configuration documentation for the PCA in G/L.
Can someone give me some light on this, in case you have some docuemantation would you be son kind in sending it to my email:
[email protected]
Thnks a lot.

Use the search option. I believe there any many threads with document splitting documentation.

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From Classic PCA to New PCA

Dear friends,
I am on upgrade project from 4.7 to ECC6.
my clients wants to use PCA with new Gl. Now they don't want to use classic PCA.
Please suggest me what steps I need to take. Tell me the detail procedure.
Please let me know what are the implication of this.
Thanks & regards,
Reva.

Thanks you all for your prompt response.
But i am confuse little bit on profit center heirarchy.
My client has classic PCA heirarchy. what should I do with that. Should I use same heirarchy for new PCA or I have to create new PCA heirarchy.
if anyone have the config doc for new PCA, please send to me on [email protected]
Thanks & Regards,
Reva.

Activating PCA in NEW GL

Hello Folks,
We are putting ECC with NEW GL from scratch, and will be using Profit Center as Main Driver for reporting. Will activating FIN_PCA and Document Split be sufficient, or we also need to activate classic PCA in Controlling as well, what advantage will that give to us, or its that we are safe not to do it.
Thanks
Balla

No you shall not activate PCA when running the New G/L. The PCA tables GLPCT and GLPCA for example will not be populated with transactional data. However you will continue to use some of the PCA menu items like creating master data.
Best regards,
[Jeffrey Holdeman|http://wiki.sdn.sap.com/wiki/display/profile/Jeffrey+Holdeman]
SAP Labs, LLC
BusinessObjects Division
Americas Customer Solutions Adoption (CSA) team

PCA in New GL

Hi
We are implementing PCA in ECC 6.0
1. Document splitting is not activated
2. A dummy Profit center is created
When i post PCA related transactions they get updated in FAGLFLEXT and GLPCT both
1. Is it the standard SAP functioning that the data is posted on both the tables?
2. How to block postings to GLPCT? What conficuration steps are required?
3. Can rport writer reports be taken out from FAGLFLEXT
Thanks
Shiv

Hi All
We are on ECC 6.0 and for some reasons did not turn on Doc splitting. We want to create Balance sheet by every profit center. I can transfer AR / AP balance to PCA at the end of the month but for manual postings i have an issue
Example posting :
Expense 1 Dr            CC 100, PC 100          $100
Expense 2 Dr            CC 200, PC 200          $200
Cash         Cr                                              $300
If i want to break Cash account by Profit centers of Dr lines how do i do this in SAP. Do i need to post 2 line items for cash a/c by profit center or is there a user exit, substitution rule etc to break it by PC based on the offsetting line item or else it is not possible through PCA but only through Doc splitting
Your resposne will be highly appreciated and points awarded
Thanks and regards
Shiv

Determining which PCA to use between new-GL and classic EC-PCA

I tried to use 1kek to transfer AR and AP from FI to PCA but failed with message saying "Document Splitting is Activated".
We are considering using PCA to make B/S and P/L of several business unit in a company. We are using SAP 6.0. After looking for the references, I understood that I can use new-GL or EC-PCA(classic PCA) for Profit Center Accounting. I wonder which way is the best and easiest one to achieve my company's object.
As I understood if I activate document splitting, it means I use new-GL for PCA, and I should use table FAGLFLEXA of FI instead of GLPCA of EC-PCA.
I'd like to use new-GL because it's "new" and convenient, hopefully. But I found several problems using new-GL to make financial reports.
The first problem was that I couldn't make allocation with accounts which cannot be manually input like AA accounts(Building, Machine, etc.), AR/AP or materials. When I operate transaction FAGLGA35, no effect occurs on those accounts.
And the second problem is that I couldn't find a way to make a report which has accounts list on its first column and profit center list on its first row. It's surely because I'm a newbie in SAP
I think everybody trying to use new_GL encounter this problem and it's wired because I couldn't find any thread about this.
And If I decide to use EC-PCA and make allocation on GLPCA, I think I should make some CBO to transfer AR/AP to EC-PCA. Is there any other possible solution?
I have a lot of things to ask but I'm not even sure what I know and don't.
Thanks for you guru's great help.

The following notes will help you in understanding the set up of PCA in New GL with Classic PCA (EC-PCA): <b>OSS Norte no 826357</b>
You want to know
For release SAP ERP, the Profit Center Accounting was integrated into the new G/L accounting. The solution is as follows:
SAP delivers the 'Profit Center' and the 'Partner Profit Center' as fixed characteristics that are posted on the original FI postings. The data is not updated in another ledger as in the classic Profit Center Accounting.
As a result of integration of the Profit Center Accounting into the new G/L accounting, new functions such as 'Document Splitting' are available. Using the function 'Document Splitting' (online document split), you can create balance sheets for company codes as well as for other entities such as the profit center. The balance is then set to 0 for each document for the profit center.
Integrating the G/L accounting and the Profit Center Accounting into the one application also removes the time and effort needed to reconcile G/L accounting and PCA.
When implementing the new G/L accounting in Release SAP ERP, we recommend that all new customers map the Profit Center within the new G/L accounting by activating the scenario FIN_PCA (profit center update). It is not advisable to activate the classic Profit Center Accounting in parallel and consequently update parallel data volumes.
Detailed information about setting Profit Center Accounting in the New General Ledger:
Define the update of the characteristics 'Profit Center' and 'Partner Profit Center' in the ledger by selecting the scenario 'Profit center update' (Customizing: Financial Accounting (New) -> Financial Accounting Basic Settings (New) -> Ledgers -> Ledger -> Assign Scenarios and Customer-Defined Fields to Ledgers).
If you want to use the document splitting, you can define the field 'Profit center' as a splitting characteristic in the document splitting (Customizing: Financial Accounting (New) -> General Ledger Accounting (New) -> Business Transactions -> Document Splitting -> Define Document Splitting Characteristics for General Ledger Accounting). Set the 'Zero balance' indicator again for the added field 'Profit Center'. You can now create balance sheets on the profit center. You must also activate the Mandatory Field check to ensure that the profit center is set in all postings. If you want to display balance sheet items at profit center level (for example, receivables and payables) but you do not require complete balance sheets, we recommend that you do not set the indicator 'Zero balance' and 'Mandatory Field check'.
If you already used classic Profit Center Accounting as an SAP R/3 customer but you now want to use Profit Center Accounting in the new general ledger, you can continue to use classic Profit Center Accounting in parallel to the profit center update scenario in the new G/L accounting in the interim. However, we do not recommend you do this on a long-term basis due to the increased data volume and the increased time and effort required.
However, if the classic Profit Center Accounting continues to play a leading role for you, we recommend that you do not activate the document splitting in the new G/L accounting, and not for other entities such as the segment either. This is because the classic Profit Center Accounting uses certain functions of the classic general ledger that are no longer available with active document splitting (for example, transaction F.5D, Calculate Balance Sheet Adjustment).
See the following information for details about the differences between the function of PCA in new G/L accounting and in classic PCA and for details about the effects of new G/L accounting on the posting behavior in classic PCA. Even if mapped into new G/L accounting, PCA always occurs within a controlling area. SAP does not support cross-controlling area PCA. The derivation of profit center and partner profit center with the different business processes when you use the new G/L Accounting is identical to the classic Profit Center Accounting. Details about the differences are available in the following.
1. Set the proposal profit center for additional balance sheet and P&L accounts.
Release SAP ERP 2004:
           Profit center scenario in the new G/L accounting is active, classic Profit Center Accounting is not active: If you have to set a profit center on balance sheet and P&L accounts, make entries manually, use FI substitution or implement the BADI AC_DOCUMENT. Note that the system calls the BADI AC_DOCUMENT only for postings using the accounting interface (for example, MM and SD postings), but it is not called for FI postings.
           Profit center scenario in new G/L accounting and classic PCA is active: Transactions 3KEH and 3KEI are available in the classic Profit Center Accounting for maintaining a proposal profit center for balance sheet accounts and P&L accounts. Transactions 3KEH and 3KEI also exist in SAP ERP2004 and function in the same way as in R/3: In other words, you can use the settings in transaction 3KEH to control the update in classic Profit Center Accounting, and the transactions set a proposal profit center where necessary. Keep in mind that the profit center information is therefore affected in new G/L accounting by settings in classic Profit Center Accounting.
Release SAP ERP 2005:
           Transactions 3KEH and 3KEI (from classic Profit Center Accounting) for maintaining proposal profit centers for balance sheet and P&L accounts are no longer used to set the profit center.
           Profit center scenario in the new G/L accounting is active, classic Profit Center Accounting is not active: If you have to set a profit center on balance sheet and P&L accounts, make entries manually, use FI substitution or implement the BADI AC_DOCUMENT. Note that the system calls the BADI AC_DOCUMENT only for postings using the accounting interface (for example, MM and SD postings), but it is not called for FI postings. In addition, the new transaction FAGL3KEH and the BAdI FAGL_3KEH_DEFPRCTR are available for maintaining proposal profit centers. You can use these new functions to determine a proposal profit center depending on the company code and the account. Note that this proposal profit center does not appear on the input screen; it is derived only when you post the document. The proposal profit center is used if the line item does not contain a CO account assignment and if the profit center was not already determined elsewhere.
           Profit center scenario in new G/L accounting and classic Profit Center Accounting are active: The entries of transaction 3KEH control ONLY the transfer of line items to classic Profit Center Accounting. Transaction 3KEI is no longer relevant. To set the profit center, use the options which are available in the new G/L accounting (make entries manually, use FI substitution, or implement the BADI AC_DOCUMENT).
2. Derivation of the partner profit center
Release SAP ERP 2004:
           Profit center scenario in the new G/L accounting is active, classic Profit Center Accounting is not active: Transactions 8KER/8KES are no longer available. Notes 997925 and 1087350 provide the functions from transaction OCCL. Alternatively, you can use the BAdI AC_DOCUMENT to set the partner profit center.
           Profit center scenario in new G/L accounting and classic PCA is active: Transactions 8KER/8KES and OCCL (reading purchase order/sales order for affiliated companies) are active. However, we recommend that you no longer use transaction 8KER or 8KES. Partner profit centers derived using these transactions are available in both classic Profit Center Accounting and in New General Ledger Accounting only if the line is relevant in classic Profit Center Accounting.
Release SAP ERP 2005:
           Profit center scenario in the new G/L accounting is active, classic Profit Center Accounting is not active: Transactions 8KER/8KES are no longer available. Notes 997925 and 1087350 provide the functions from transaction OCCL. Alternatively, you can use the BAdI AC_DOCUMENT or the new BAdI FAGL_DEFPPRCTR (enhancement spot FAGL_LEDGER_CUST_DEFPRCTR) with the method SET_DEFAULT_PART_PRCTR to set the partner profit center.
           Profit center scenario in new G/L accounting and classic PCA is active: Transactions 8KER/8KES and OCCL are active. However, we recommend that you no longer use transaction 8KER or 8KES because partner profit centers derived using these transactions are available in both classic Profit Center Accounting and in New General Ledger Accounting only if the line is relevant in classic Profit Center Accounting. Instead, if required, you should use the BAdI FAGL_DEFPPRCTR to set the partner profit center. A partner profit center determined in this way is always updated both in new G/L accounting and in classic Profit Center Accounting.
3. Displaying receivables and payables for each profit center
Document splitting is active
           The detailed information from the general ledger view about receivables and payables split online from the document splitting is NOT available for classic Profit Center Accounting. In this case, you CANNOT split receivables/payables nor follow-up costs subsequently (Transaction F.5D - report SAPF180A, Transaction F.50 - report SAPF181, Transaction F.05 - report SAPF100). This means that you CANNOT use transaction 1KEK to transfer receivables and payables to classic Profit Center Accounting. Follow-up costs split according to source can be transferred online to the classic Profit Center Accounting because these are already available in the data entry view.
           Read the documentation of the document splitting carefully. Analyze in which cases you have to set default account assignments because the document splitting is sometimes prevented by default account assignments.
Document splitting is not active
           In this case, you CANNOT display the receivables and payables according to source at profit center level within the new G/L accounting. However, you can use the old split of the receivables and payables within the classic Profit Center Accounting (transaction F.5D) as well as of the follow-up costs (transaction F.50), and you can use the periodic transfer of receivables and payables using transaction 1KEK. However, you can execute the new report for the foreign currency valuation of the open items (report FAGL_FC_VALUATION) with depreciation areas only, which means that the documents are no longer updated (valuation difference not updated in BSEG-BDIFF). As a result, transaction 1KEK copies only the original receivables/payables, independently of transaction 2KEM 'Account Valuation Differences'; in other words, the original data is not corrected by the valuation differences.
           You can use the standard report groups 8A98 and 8A99 to display the open receivables and payables in classic Profit Center Accounting.
4. Periodic transfers of asset portfolios to classic Profit Center Accounting
              As of Release 4. 7, it is possible to map a parallel reporting mapped in FI (for example, parallel accounts) for parallel depreciation areas in Asset Accounting by using particular settings (defining an accounting principle). You must stop the execution of transaction 1KEI because it would result in duplicated data in PCA because of postings to the same accounts. You must also stop transaction 1KEI with a 'different company code' or a 'different depreciation area in the different company code' because the data cannot be transferred correctly. Transaction 1KEI terminates with the error message KM 764. As of Release SAP ERP, if the new general ledger accounting is active, the system issues the message FAGL_LEDGER_CUST 076.
5. Dummy profit center on P&L accounts
              You use transactions 3KEH and 3KEI to firstly try to determine a proposal profit center in classic Profit Center Accounting for document line items with a P&L account (no cost element) and without a profit center account assignment. If the system does not find a proposal profit center, the dummy profit center is set for some activities (primarily from Logistics). If the new G/L accounting is active AND if at least one of the two characteristics 'Profit Center' and 'Segment' is used in the document splitting, the routine for setting the dummy profit center will no longer run (see Note 820121 and 832776). Otherwise the document splitting would not split a document, or not split it correctly. The system must then find the profit center that is valid for the process using the document splitting or another derivation. If this is not the case, the document line item will not be updated in the classic Profit Center (document line items with Profit Center initial are not allowed in the classic Profit Center Accounting).
6. PCA additional rows
              If you map Profit Center Accounting in new General Ledger Accounting in SAP ERP, you can use consulting note 937872 to update PCA additional lines recognized from classic Profit Center Accounting in new General Ledger Accounting.
              If you use the transfer price functions, you do not require Note 937872 because the structure of the PCA additional lines are technically "true" and are automatically posted in new General Ledger Accounting when maintained in transaction 0KEK.
7. Substitution of profit centers in sales orders
              Transactions 0KEL and 0KEM are available both in the classic Profit Center Accounting and in the new G/L accounting (Customizing: Financial Accounting (New) -> General Ledger Accounting (New) -> Tools -> Validation/Substitution)
8. Reporting
Line item reporting within the new G/L accounting
           Release SAP ERP 2004: Even if document splitting is set with the characteristic Profit Center, only one restricted line item reporting to profit centers is available in this release at present. When you use the G/L account line item list of FI, you can limit profit centers for line item settlement G/L accounts that are not relevant for the document splitting. As of Support Package 10, line item reporting to profit centers and segments is available.
           Release SAP ERP 2005: Line item reporting according to profit centers and segments is available.
Ledger reporting within the new G/L accounting
           Release SAP ERP 2004: Even if the document splitting is set with the characteristic profit center or segment, no current account reporting to profit centers and segments is available up to Support Package 10. With Support Package 10, current account reporting according to profit centers and segments is available. Also see the detailed explanations for Release SAP ERP 2005.
           Release SAP ERP 2005: Current account reporting according to profit centers and segments is available. It replaces the standard report groups 8A98/8A99 in earlier releases. However, the difference is that the foreign currency valuation correction is no longer displayed for each item because no update of the valuation in items occurs through the foreign currency valuation in the new general ledger (no BDIFF/BDIFF2 update). It is a key date-related valuation (mostly for the period end).
9. Transfer prices
              The transfer price functions (multiple valuations) are available for new General Ledger Accounting as of SAP ERP 2005. For SAP ERP 2004, see the release restrictions in Note 741821. In SAP ERP 2004, you can use the transfer price functions or multiple valuation functions only if you have activated the classic General Ledger and classic Profit Center Accounting.
10. Creating the profit center standard hierarchy
Release SAP ERP 2004: You must create the highest node of the standard hierarchy in the Customizing of the classic Profit Center Accounting (transaction 0KE5), even if you are not using classic Profit Center Accounting.
Release SAP ERP 2005: To create the highest node of the standard hierarchy, use transaction SM30 with the maintenance view V_FAGL_PC_STHR.
11. Creating the dummy profit center
Classic Profit Center Accounting is active (regardless of whether classic G/L accounting or new G/L accounting is active):
           If the classic Profit Center Accounting is active, you must create a dummy profit center to avoid postings with an initial profit center in the database tables of the classic PCA.
           If the new G/L accounting is also active AND if you are using at least one of the two characteristics 'Profit Center' and 'Segment' in the document splitting, you have to ensure in Release SAP ERP 2004 that Notes 820121 and 832776 are included. In Release SAP ERP 2005, the changed posting logic is included from the beginning. Note that the update of document line items in classic Profit Center Accounting is omitted because of this.
Classic Profit Center Accounting is not active, New G/L Accounting is active and you are using at least one of the two characteristics 'Profit Center' and 'Segment' in the document splitting:
           You do not have to create and use a dummy profit center. Using the dummy profit center can cause situations you want to avoid: For example, the system splits receivables/payables to the dummy profit center because of the document splitting (you cannot transfer them manually), or a document line item with dummy profit center account assignment is not split by the document splitting. To ensure that a profit center is assigned in all rows, set the profit center as mandatory field in the Customizing of the document splitting. However, note that this can also lead to terminations while posting, if a profit center assignment is missing.
12. Compare G/L Accounts in FI with Profit Center Accounting (Transaction KE5T)
              In classic Profit Center Accounting, transaction KE5T is used to compare account balances. In this transaction, the ledgers to be compare are fixed. If you use Profit Center Accounting in new General Ledger Accounting, use the general transaction GCAC. You can enter any base ledger and any comparison ledger.

PCA classic or New GL

Hi Experts,
My client has different co codes and on ECC and Classic PCA is activated but not using.
Now they are going to implement ECC 6 in US company codes.
The requirement for this co code is to use the PCA.
Can you please suggest on the below:
1. Can we go ahead with PCA with New GL, my concern is as other co codes are not on New GL if we do this for new company code it will give some problems,
2. Go with Classic PCA now and go to NEW GL with PCA for all the co codes at once.
Kindly give the reasons also please.
Thanks,

Hi,
Again, as mentioned by Christian, you cannot activate NewG/L for one company code and not for another. So, if you use NewG/L, you will have to migrate the data from your 'old' company codes to NewG/L tables as well.
PCA could be used with NewG/L as well; you are not obliged to switch it off even if you activate NewG/L. However, normally functionalities of NewG/L could replace PCA.
Regards,
Eli
P.S. Please, search SDN before posting. All these PCA/NewGL issues have been discussed several times

Classic PCA fields in New PCA

Hi experts,
Currently we are in the midst of rolling out NewGL project for the customer who is on classic PCA now. In the NewGL, we are going to activate the document splitting for Profit center and segments. Functionality point of view, the client is required the NewGL.
But during our assessment, we went throug the 8A Ledger (Classic PCA) reports and the new GL standard reports, suddenly found that all the classic fields are not available in the NewGL reports. In the NewGL, whatever the standard fields that has been provided by SAP for FI module, those will be applicable to PCA evaluations such as Cost center, WBS and so on. In New PCA, typically the field selection is only limited to the additional account assignments or coding block only. But in the current classic 8A reports, they have the complete logistics/CO info such as sales office, sales organization, cost element organization, stical key figures etc where as in the NewGL, SAP is not given these fields in the additional account assignments.
I went through some of the SAP documentation where I saw that there are some user exits to bring the billing info to the accounting documents (OSS note 301077), but how far the requirement is fulfilling with these user exits I do not know.
Can somebody please give me clarity on the compatability of field selections between classic PCA and New PCA including the customer fields' technicallimitations as it is going to be a showstopper for our project. And is it possible to migrate the line item report painter reports to new GL? Can we meet the reporting requirements by report painter tool in NewGL?
Looking for your valuable inputs regarding
Thanks
Ramki

Hi,
old PCA report painter reports can be migrated to NewGL reports under certain circumstances (see SAPNET note 1555535 for details).
As the NewGL PC reporting bases on the data available in the new GL tables FAGLFLEX* I think that you will miss some infos in NewGL PC reporting compared to infos available in classic PCA reporting (eg object type / object class).
Nevertheless it is possible to add fields toFAGLFLEX* but I doubt that this will be helpful in your case.
BR Christian

Classic PCA in ECC 6.0

Hi Experts,
Basic doubt : I'm working in ECC 6 with new GL. I'm not using any non leading ledger but i have activated document splitting which is working fine. Now doubt is whether i need to do the configurations in PCA node and activate the profit center accounting in 0KE5 (Controlling area settings).
As far as i read the docs, they say it's not advisable to activate PCA in New due to data volumes. which means that "profit center document will not be posted any more if i do not activate . Are there any other side affects to this?
My requirement as far as PCA is concerned is to have a P/L account and Balance sheet at profit center level. Is this achievable without posting PCA documents? Do i need to use any special transactions other than usual financial statement ones to generate PC level P/L and Balancesheet ?
Best Regards
Vimal

If you are using New GL and PRCTR is a mandatory field for Splitting, you have standard T Codes to generate Financial Statements in New GL at Profit Center Level
Regards
Sanil
Edited by: Sanil K Bhandari on Jun 2, 2011 3:46 PM

NEW GL profit center settings

Hi All
In NEW GL , Do we have to do the same settings in tcode 0KE5 transaction code...Or anything deifferent from classic PCA to new PCA?

Hi Steve,
I think the note 826357 can help you in this case.
Best Regards,
Bruno Wiener

Profit-center determination of bank subaccounts and bank accounts ; with new GL.

The question here-under has been asked a number of times on forums, though never answered really to my knowledge. Let me try to get it formulated once more :
- When a customer invoice is posted, the receivable is properly split per profit-center thanks to the active splitting solution.
- When the customer invoice is paid through a bank transfer, the following happens generally :
The bank statement posts a first area 'debit' bank and 'credit' bank sub-account on a default profit-center (this posting needs to happen first because SAP aims to have the 'bank' posted as quickly as possible 'in the morning' leaving the manual clearing activities 'in the afternoon').
The bank statement posts a second area 'debit' bank sub-account and 'credit' + 'clearing' receivable. There, the combination of passive splitting and inheritence makes sure that the profit center of the invoice receivable line items is also used for this entire posting.
- Manually or through automatic clearing, the bank sub-account gets cleared. Since the 2 sides have different profit-centers, the systems posts adjustment lines to the zero balance clearing account.
My question : for companies that want to achieve an entire balance sheet per profit-center, it is a problem that the bank account debit and bank sub-account credit are still with a default profit-center. I understand that the splitting solution in new GL does not offer a way to solve that. One needs to adjust the profit-center on the bank account and bank-subacccount with an allocation cycle in EC-PCA. Is my understanding correct or is there a better solution available in New GL ?
Thanks for your replies.
José Beghein

Hello Ronghua,
Many thanks for your reply. This note is extremely interesting and gives a lot of technical information on the differences between classic PCA and new GL PCA.
I nevertheless did not find clearly what is considered the best practice towards splitting bank account positions.
Kind regards.
José Beghein

Cost center assessment in new GL and classic GL

HI ALL
I want to double check one thing. When you run cost center assessments in classic GL, the system will make entries in GLPCT table for PCA with assessment cost element. But when you got migrated into NEW GL then system will not make any entry in FAGLFLEXT table with assessment cost element. These assesments have no effect on PCA module. If I want to reflect the effect of costcenter assesments in PCA in new GL , where can I check for that?....Is there anyway to acheive this without activating both classic and new gl PCA?
Thanks
Steve

Hi,
If you have defined variant for real time integration and it has "Cross profit center" checked and this variant is assigned to company code, then FI-CO reconcilation posting will be posted in each of the profit center.
One can have a single account for all reconcilation posting or different FI-CO recon account can be used for each bussiness process / for each assessement cost element using substitution.
FI-CO reco account is visible in the FAGLFLEXT and hence can be displayed in report.
Regards
Chetan.

Profit Center Currency in SAP FI New GL

Hi SAP Experts,
My client is on SAP 4.7 version. We are planning to upgrade to the ECC6.Currently,client is not using Procfit Center accounting functionality in SAP 4.7.They want to implement PCA in New GL.
My questions i s:-
a) PCA in New GL is linked to the Controlling area as it was in SAP 4.7?
b) Can we use PCA currency diffrent from Controlling area currency and Company code currency in New GL?
Thnaks in advance.

Hi,
Do not mix between New G/L and PCA. PCA could be used independently from New G/L, while the very concept of New G/L implies that you can avoid using PCA at all, but do the split to profit centres within New G/L itself. To your questions:
1) yes
2) yes (you can use 90 currency type, i.e. separate currency for PCA), maintained via 0KE5.
Regards,
Eli

New General Activation in ECC 6.0

Hi
We are using ECC 6.0 and New General Ledger is not activated.
What is the purpose of activating New General Ledger?
Regards
Jai

Hi Jai,
If your client wants to use new-gl functionality like segments,document splitting,pca in new-gl then you have to activate it..
thanks,
sai.

Impact on profit ctr after activation of New GL

Hi,
I would like to know,what is the impact on profit ctr after activation of New GL?
Thanks in advance
Prasad

The following OSS note will be of some help in addition to online help documentation
For release SAP ERP, the Profit Center Accounting was integrated into the new G/L accounting. The solution is as follows:
SAP delivers the 'Profit Center' and the 'Partner Profit Center' as fixed characteristics that are posted on the original FI postings. The data is not updated in another ledger as in the classic Profit Center Accounting.
As a result of integration of the Profit Center Accounting into the new G/L accounting, new functions such as 'Document Splitting' are available. Using the function 'Document Splitting' (online document split), you can create balance sheets for company codes as well as for other entities such as the profit center. The balance is then set to 0 for each document for the profit center.
Integrating the G/L accounting and the Profit Center Accounting into the one application also removes the time and effort needed to reconcile G/L accounting and PCA.
When implementing the new G/L accounting in Release SAP ERP, we recommend that all new customers map the Profit Center within the new G/L accounting by activating the scenario FIN_PCA (profit center update). It is not advisable to activate the classic Profit Center Accounting in parallel and consequently update parallel data volumes.
Detailed information about setting Profit Center Accounting in the New General Ledger:
Define the update of the characteristics 'Profit Center' and 'Partner Profit Center' in the ledger by selecting the scenario 'Profit center update' (Customizing: Financial Accounting (New) -> Financial Accounting Basic Settings (New) -> Ledgers -> Ledger -> Assign Scenarios and Customer-Defined Fields to Ledgers).
If you want to use the document splitting, you can define the field 'Profit center' as a splitting characteristic in the document splitting (Customizing: Financial Accounting (New) -> General Ledger Accounting (New) -> Business Transactions -> Document Splitting -> Define Document Splitting Characteristics for General Ledger Accounting). Set the 'Zero balance' indicator again for the added field 'Profit Center'. You can now create balance sheets on the profit center. You must also activate the Mandatory Field check to ensure that the profit center is set in all postings. If you want to display balance sheet items at profit center level (for example, receivables and payables) but you do not require complete balance sheets, we recommend that you do not set the indicator 'Zero balance' and 'Mandatory Field check'.
If you already used classic Profit Center Accounting as an SAP R/3 customer but you now want to use Profit Center Accounting in the new general ledger, you can continue to use classic Profit Center Accounting in parallel to the profit center update scenario in the new G/L accounting in the interim. However, we do not recommend you do this on a long-term basis due to the increased data volume and the increased time and effort required.
However, if the classic Profit Center Accounting continues to play a leading role for you, we recommend that you do not activate the document splitting in the new G/L accounting, and not for other entities such as the segment either. This is because the classic Profit Center Accounting uses certain functions of the classic general ledger that are no longer available with active document splitting (for example, transaction F.5D, Calculate Balance Sheet Adjustment).
See the following information for details about the differences between the function of PCA in new G/L accounting and in classic PCA and for details about the effects of new G/L accounting on the posting behavior in classic PCA. Even if mapped into new G/L accounting, PCA always occurs within a controlling area. SAP does not support cross-controlling area PCA. The derivation of profit center and partner profit center with the different business processes when you use the new G/L Accounting is identical to the classic Profit Center Accounting. Details about the differences are available in the following.
1. Set the proposal profit center for additional balance sheet and P&L accounts.
Release SAP ERP 2004:
           Profit center scenario in the new G/L accounting is active, classic Profit Center Accounting is not active: If you have to set a profit center on balance sheet and P&L accounts, make entries manually, use FI substitution or implement the BADI AC_DOCUMENT. Note that the system calls the BADI AC_DOCUMENT only for postings using the accounting interface (for example, MM and SD postings), but it is not called for FI postings.
           Profit center scenario in new G/L accounting and classic PCA is active: Transactions 3KEH and 3KEI are available in the classic Profit Center Accounting for maintaining a proposal profit center for balance sheet accounts and P&L accounts. Transactions 3KEH and 3KEI also exist in SAP ERP2004 and function in the same way as in R/3: In other words, you can use the settings in transaction 3KEH to control the update in classic Profit Center Accounting, and the transactions set a proposal profit center where necessary. Keep in mind that the profit center information is therefore affected in new G/L accounting by settings in classic Profit Center Accounting.
Release SAP ERP 2005:
           Transactions 3KEH and 3KEI (from classic Profit Center Accounting) for maintaining proposal profit centers for balance sheet and P&L accounts are no longer used to set the profit center.
           Profit center scenario in the new G/L accounting is active, classic Profit Center Accounting is not active: If you have to set a profit center on balance sheet and P&L accounts, make entries manually, use FI substitution or implement the BADI AC_DOCUMENT. Note that the system calls the BADI AC_DOCUMENT only for postings using the accounting interface (for example, MM and SD postings), but it is not called for FI postings. In addition, the new transaction FAGL3KEH and the BAdI FAGL_3KEH_DEFPRCTR are available for maintaining proposal profit centers. You can use these new functions to determine a proposal profit center depending on the company code and the account. Note that this proposal profit center does not appear on the input screen; it is derived only when you post the document. The proposal profit center is used if the line item does not contain a CO account assignment and if the profit center was not already determined elsewhere.
           Profit center scenario in new G/L accounting and classic Profit Center Accounting are active: The entries of transaction 3KEH control ONLY the transfer of line items to classic Profit Center Accounting. Transaction 3KEI is no longer relevant. To set the profit center, use the options which are available in the new G/L accounting (make entries manually, use FI substitution, or implement the BADI AC_DOCUMENT).
2. Derivation of the partner profit center
Release SAP ERP 2004:
           Profit center scenario in the new G/L accounting is active, classic Profit Center Accounting is not active: Transactions 8KER/8KES are no longer available. Notes 997925 and 1087350 provide the functions from transaction OCCL. Alternatively, you can use the BAdI AC_DOCUMENT to set the partner profit center.
           Profit center scenario in new G/L accounting and classic PCA is active: Transactions 8KER/8KES and OCCL (reading purchase order/sales order for affiliated companies) are active. However, we recommend that you no longer use transaction 8KER or 8KES. Partner profit centers derived using these transactions are available in both classic Profit Center Accounting and in New General Ledger Accounting only if the line is relevant in classic Profit Center Accounting.
Release SAP ERP 2005:
           Profit center scenario in the new G/L accounting is active, classic Profit Center Accounting is not active: Transactions 8KER/8KES are no longer available. Notes 997925 and 1087350 provide the functions from transaction OCCL. Alternatively, you can use the BAdI AC_DOCUMENT or the new BAdI FAGL_DEFPPRCTR (enhancement spot FAGL_LEDGER_CUST_DEFPRCTR) with the method SET_DEFAULT_PART_PRCTR to set the partner profit center.
           Profit center scenario in new G/L accounting and classic PCA is active: Transactions 8KER/8KES and OCCL are active. However, we recommend that you no longer use transaction 8KER or 8KES because partner profit centers derived using these transactions are available in both classic Profit Center Accounting and in New General Ledger Accounting only if the line is relevant in classic Profit Center Accounting. Instead, if required, you should use the BAdI FAGL_DEFPPRCTR to set the partner profit center. A partner profit center determined in this way is always updated both in new G/L accounting and in classic Profit Center Accounting.
3. Displaying receivables and payables for each profit center
Document splitting is active
           The detailed information from the general ledger view about receivables and payables split online from the document splitting is NOT available for classic Profit Center Accounting. In this case, you CANNOT split receivables/payables nor follow-up costs subsequently (Transaction F.5D - report SAPF180A, Transaction F.50 - report SAPF181, Transaction F.05 - report SAPF100). This means that you CANNOT use transaction 1KEK to transfer receivables and payables to classic Profit Center Accounting. Follow-up costs split according to source can be transferred online to the classic Profit Center Accounting because these are already available in the data entry view.
           Read the documentation of the document splitting carefully. Analyze in which cases you have to set default account assignments because the document splitting is sometimes prevented by default account assignments.
Document splitting is not active
           In this case, you CANNOT display the receivables and payables according to source at profit center level within the new G/L accounting. However, you can use the old split of the receivables and payables within the classic Profit Center Accounting (transaction F.5D) as well as of the follow-up costs (transaction F.50), and you can use the periodic transfer of receivables and payables using transaction 1KEK. However, you can execute the new report for the foreign currency valuation of the open items (report FAGL_FC_VALUATION) with depreciation areas only, which means that the documents are no longer updated (valuation difference not updated in BSEG-BDIFF). As a result, transaction 1KEK copies only the original receivables/payables, independently of transaction 2KEM 'Account Valuation Differences'; in other words, the original data is not corrected by the valuation differences.
           You can use the standard report groups 8A98 and 8A99 to display the open receivables and payables in classic Profit Center Accounting.
4. Periodic transfers of asset portfolios to classic Profit Center Accounting
              As of Release 4. 7, it is possible to map a parallel reporting mapped in FI (for example, parallel accounts) for parallel depreciation areas in Asset Accounting by using particular settings (defining an accounting principle). You must stop the execution of transaction 1KEI because it would result in duplicated data in PCA because of postings to the same accounts. You must also stop transaction 1KEI with a 'different company code' or a 'different depreciation area in the different company code' because the data cannot be transferred correctly. Transaction 1KEI terminates with the error message KM 764. As of Release SAP ERP, if the new general ledger accounting is active, the system issues the message FAGL_LEDGER_CUST 076.
5. Dummy profit center on P&L accounts
              You use transactions 3KEH and 3KEI to firstly try to determine a proposal profit center in classic Profit Center Accounting for document line items with a P&L account (no cost element) and without a profit center account assignment. If the system does not find a proposal profit center, the dummy profit center is set for some activities (primarily from Logistics). If the new G/L accounting is active AND if at least one of the two characteristics 'Profit Center' and 'Segment' is used in the document splitting, the routine for setting the dummy profit center will no longer run (see Note 820121 and 832776). Otherwise the document splitting would not split a document, or not split it correctly. The system must then find the profit center that is valid for the process using the document splitting or another derivation. If this is not the case, the document line item will not be updated in the classic Profit Center (document line items with Profit Center initial are not allowed in the classic Profit Center Accounting).
6. PCA additional rows
              If you map Profit Center Accounting in new General Ledger Accounting in SAP ERP, you can use consulting note 937872 to update PCA additional lines recognized from classic Profit Center Accounting in new General Ledger Accounting.
              If you use the transfer price functions, you do not require Note 937872 because the structure of the PCA additional lines are technically "true" and are automatically posted in new General Ledger Accounting when maintained in transaction 0KEK.
7. Substitution of profit centers in sales orders
              Transactions 0KEL and 0KEM are available both in the classic Profit Center Accounting and in the new G/L accounting (Customizing: Financial Accounting (New) -> General Ledger Accounting (New) -> Tools -> Validation/Substitution)
8. Reporting
Line item reporting within the new G/L accounting
           Release SAP ERP 2004: Even if document splitting is set with the characteristic Profit Center, only one restricted line item reporting to profit centers is available in this release at present. When you use the G/L account line item list of FI, you can limit profit centers for line item settlement G/L accounts that are not relevant for the document splitting. As of Support Package 10, line item reporting to profit centers and segments is available.
           Release SAP ERP 2005: Line item reporting according to profit centers and segments is available.
Ledger reporting within the new G/L accounting
           Release SAP ERP 2004: Even if the document splitting is set with the characteristic profit center or segment, no current account reporting to profit centers and segments is available up to Support Package 10. With Support Package 10, current account reporting according to profit centers and segments is available. Also see the detailed explanations for Release SAP ERP 2005.
           Release SAP ERP 2005: Current account reporting according to profit centers and segments is available. It replaces the standard report groups 8A98/8A99 in earlier releases. However, the difference is that the foreign currency valuation correction is no longer displayed for each item because no update of the valuation in items occurs through the foreign currency valuation in the new general ledger (no BDIFF/BDIFF2 update). It is a key date-related valuation (mostly for the period end).
9. Transfer prices
              The transfer price functions (multiple valuations) are available for new General Ledger Accounting as of SAP ERP 2005. For SAP ERP 2004, see the release restrictions in Note 741821. In SAP ERP 2004, you can use the transfer price functions or multiple valuation functions only if you have activated the classic General Ledger and classic Profit Center Accounting.
10. Creating the profit center standard hierarchy
Release SAP ERP 2004: You must create the highest node of the standard hierarchy in the Customizing of the classic Profit Center Accounting (transaction 0KE5), even if you are not using classic Profit Center Accounting.
Release SAP ERP 2005: To create the highest node of the standard hierarchy, use transaction SM30 with the maintenance view V_FAGL_PC_STHR.
11. Creating the dummy profit center
Classic Profit Center Accounting is active (regardless of whether classic G/L accounting or new G/L accounting is active):
           If the classic Profit Center Accounting is active, you must create a dummy profit center to avoid postings with an initial profit center in the database tables of the classic PCA.
           If the new G/L accounting is also active AND if you are using at least one of the two characteristics 'Profit Center' and 'Segment' in the document splitting, you have to ensure in Release SAP ERP 2004 that Notes 820121 and 832776 are included. In Release SAP ERP 2005, the changed posting logic is included from the beginning. Note that the update of document line items in classic Profit Center Accounting is omitted because of this.
Classic Profit Center Accounting is not active, New G/L Accounting is active and you are using at least one of the two characteristics 'Profit Center' and 'Segment' in the document splitting:
           You do not have to create and use a dummy profit center. Using the dummy profit center can cause situations you want to avoid: For example, the system splits receivables/payables to the dummy profit center because of the document splitting (you cannot transfer them manually), or a document line item with dummy profit center account assignment is not split by the document splitting. To ensure that a profit center is assigned in all rows, set the profit center as mandatory field in the Customizing of the document splitting. However, note that this can also lead to terminations while posting, if a profit center assignment is missing.
12. Compare G/L Accounts in FI with Profit Center Accounting (Transaction KE5T)
              In classic Profit Center Accounting, transaction KE5T is used to compare account balances. In this transaction, the ledgers to be compare are fixed. If you use Profit Center Accounting in new General Ledger Accounting, use the general transaction GCAC. You can enter any base ledger and any comparison ledger.
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Release Status: Released for Customer
Released on: 10.09.2007 10:54:03
Priority: Recommendations/additional info
Category: Consulting
Primary Component: EC-PCA Profit Center Accounting
Secondary Components: FI-GL General Ledger Accounting
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1087350 - NewGL: Reading partner profit center in reversal
1018065 - NewGL: activating "segmentation" scenario
997925 - Read partner profit center in NewGL
966000 - mySAP new general ledger and Joint Venture Accounting
937872 - NewGL: internal revenues between profit centers
895923 - Active indicator of PCA in CO-PA derivation
853169 - ALLOCATION: Actual cycles can only be executed periodically
820121 - Document splitting does not work for segment
764841 - No profit center derivation for active flexible GL
756146 - mySAP ERP new General Ledger: General information
741821 - Release limitations concerning SAP ERP 2004
217338 - Number of profit centers
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Updating the dummy Profit Center

Hi Experts
I am using the PCA with new GL , here I have created the dummy profit center also
My query is some of the business transaction are updated in the dummy profit center
What could be the reason for updating the dummy profit center suppose if I am not give any profit center
Those entries are getting updating ?
In this new Gl concept how to transfer the balance to exact Profit center ?
Thanks
Sri

Hi Venkat
You should not have activated Classical PCA if you are using New GL.. New GL PCA is a much better functionality
Anyways, the reason for DUmmy PC is only that you did not assign the PC in the CO Object like Cost Center.. PC is always derived from Cost object. So, if the CO Object has no PC, the line item gets Dummy PC
There is a SAP note 702854 which offers steps to deactivate Classical PCA.. If you wish you can do that.. There is no harm as such in having Classical PCA, but New GL Is better
Br. Ajay M

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