Penalty costs in the optimizer

I have a requirement in my project where the sales orders should have a higher priority than the forecast. I have defined the delay penalty for the sales orders as 1 per unit per day and the delay penalty for the forecast as 0.01 per unit per day. I have defined the maximum delay as 45 days for
both the sales orders and forecast. This is how I have setup all the products.
Does the above setting ensure that the sales orders are satisfied all the time before the forecast is
satisfied by the deployment optimizer. Could there be a scenario where the forecast is satisfied before the sales orders with the above penalty structure.
Thanks in advance.
Regards,
Venkat

Hi venkat,
You must maintain distinctly higher penaly costs in the SNP 1 tab for customer demand than for demand forecast.
But I do not understand the statement "sale order should always be fulfilled before forecast". If you are talking about same location, what difference does it make?
If yoy are saying that there is a forecast for one product and sale order for another which are manufactured with same resource and that the product wih sale order should be produced in preference over the product with forecast, the above solution should work.
Regards,
Nitin Thatte

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Procurement costs in the optimizer

HI all,
In my optimization run, the procurement costs are not being considered. I updated the procurement costs in the transportation lane and updated the cost profile. Do anyone know if I have to do any other configuration with this cost?
thanks a lot and regards,
Luiz Manssur

Hi Luiz Manssur,
You can define cost function in the Procurement tab of APO master data maintenance(mat1).
Cost functions are used by optimization-based planning in Supply Network Planning (SNP), to calculate the costs of procuring, producing, and transporting varying quantities of products. The following types of cost function are available:
The cost function in the location product master defines the cost of procurement.
The cost function in the production process model (PPM) or in the production data structure (PDS) defines the costs of production.
The cost function in the master data of the transportation lane defines the transportation costs.
Regards
R. Senthil Mareeswaran.

Penalty Cost Groups in SNP Optimization

Hello APO experts!!
I would like to know if any of you have more information about the of penalty cost group in SNP Optimization.
I have been researching on the help.sap.com web site but I need more details.
Can anybody help me?
Best Regards
Angela

Hi Angela,
1) You can use penalty cost group for optimization-based planning in Supply Network Planning (SNP) to define that customer demand is prioritized.
2) You can use the Business Add-In (BAdI) /SAPAPO/SDP_RELDATA to assign penalty cost groups to forecasts and sales orders
3) You then release the forecasts with descriptive characteristics, such as customer, to SNP or transfer sales orders from SAP ERP to SAP SCM via the Core Interface (CIF).
4) In SNP 1 tab page for product master data, you can assign penalty costs for non-delivery and delays to the penalty cost groups. In this way, penalty costs become customer-dependent.
5) You can use the penalty cost group to define that the system first covers the demand from penalty cost groups with a higher priority, and only then covers penalty cost groups with a lower priority.
6) Penalty cost groups are controlled by penalty cost group profiles
7) You define the profiles from the SAP Easy Access menu, by choosing Advanced Planning and Optimization -> Supply Network Planning -> Environment -> Current Settings -> Profiles -> Define SNP Penalty Cost Group Profiles and then assign them to individual optimization runs in interactive planning or when executing the SNP optimizer in the background.
Regards
R. Senthil Mareeswaran.

ZERO Total Costs of the Solution and No Result Log after Optimiser Run

Hi Experts
I found that after SNP optimiser run for one variant with selected product and location, the Result Log generated & Total Costs of the Determined Solution is ZERO from OPTIMISER LOG.
Before optimiser run, I had run consistency check /SAPAPO/CONSCHK, /SAPAPO/TSCONS & /SAPAPO/OM17.
Also note, sale optimiser profile is used later with other set of products and location, but there Result Log and Total Costs of the Determined Solution is there in optimiser log.
What could be the reason of this? Please suggest.
Regards
Pradipta Sahoo

Hi Pradipta,
Did you see any result from your optimizer run? Means, if you see some pln ord/purch req. , generated from the optimizer run, to meet the demand? If yes, then it sounds like a master data issue with cost maintenance. If no, then it could be master data issue with cost maintenance or there is no source (for example- no t-lane for those products you used in the optimizer run) to meet the demand and you have set the indicator for 'no order w/o source'.
Anyway I would suggest to check the following-
1. As Anand said, make sure you have maintain all the penalty cost for the product-locations where you have the demand. Also please check if the products are assigned to the lane (from Source to destination location).
2. If you have maintained any production cost in PPM (if used one) or storage cost in the demand location or transportation cost (in the T-lane), then make sure these all cost are way lesser than the non-delivery penalty cost.
But yes, even if, this is the case, then optimizer should generate some non-delivery penalty cost, when demands are not fulfilled! So, it seems like there is no penalty cost.
Did you use any optimizer cost profile or it is same as previous one?
Please update us.
Thanks,
Satyajit

Can I trust the optimizer to do the right thing every time?

Hello,
I have a Business Objects report that is performing poorly, I kind of found something akin to a solution but I'd like a second (and third, and...) opinion about is suitability. I don't know much about BO, so I'll stick to the SQL part.
So, the query looks something like that:
SELECT ..... FROM
-- this is the generic part of the report
< long list of ANSI joins here>
RIGHT JOIN some_table ON (conditions - non parametrizable from the report - not allowed by BO)
<some more joins for good measure>
-- end of the generic part, up to here nothing can take user parameters
WHERE
-- this is the specific part, from here on, the conditions can take user parameters
some_column = @some_param
....So far so simple. Now, I'm trying to find a way to push some user defined parameters in the generic part.
I can to this using package variables, something like that (very simplified form) :
CREATE OR REPLACE PACKAGE vars AS
my_filter VARCHAR2(100);
FUNCTION set_filter(filter_val IN VARCHAR2) return number;
END vars;
CREATE OR REPLACE PACKAGE BODY vars AS
FUNCTION set_filter(filter_val IN VARCHAR2) return number DETERMINISTIC IS
 my_filter := filter_val;
 return 1;
END set_filter;
END vars;And ask the developers to rewrite the report like that:
SELECT ..... FROM
-- this is the generic part of the report
< long list of ANSI joins here>
RIGHT JOIN some_table ON (conditions - as above
 *AND my_varchar_column = vars.my_filter*)
<some more joins for good measure>
-- end of the generic part, up to here nothing can take user parameters
WHERE
-- this is the specific part, from here on, the conditions can take user parameters
some_column = @some_param
*AND vars.set_filter('some text here') = 1*
....The question is, can I trust the optimizer to evaluate my where clause (thus executing set_filter) before trying to enter the joins?
I know that this works nicely with conditions like "1=0", in this case it doesn't even bother to read the tables involved. But can I assume it will do the same with a pl/sql function? Always?
In my tests it seems to work but obviously they are not exhaustive. So I guess what I'm asking is, can anyone imagine a scenario where the above would fail?
Thanks,
Iulian
Edited by: Iulian J. Dragan on Feb 27, 2013 2:57 AM

Iulian J. Dragan wrote:
Even though I tell the optimizer, "look, this function is ridiculously expensive, plus it won't filter any rows" it keeps evaluating it first.
So it looks like not only can I rely on Oracle to evaluate a literal expression first, much as I try I can't make it behave otherwise.
Still, this is only empirical, I wouldn't use it in a production environment. Probably...Iulian,
I think I understand what you are trying to do here. Something like using cost to drive the optimizer to process the SQL statement "procedurely"...
But I believe SQL, by definition, is a set-based language and this means one can not rely on the way an SQL statement is executed by the oracle engine.
I believe this is good in most of the situations. However, I understand that it is possible that one may want to use his/her knowledge of the data to write
SQL so that it is more efficient. CBO, being a software, has its limitations and may not always make the right decision, depending upon complexity of rewrite.
I don't know enough about your original problem, which involves a third-party product i.e. Business Objects, but there is a way in your example to enforce
the sequence in which he functions are called.
Here is your code, as it is, producing the results that you have demonstrated:
SQL> select * from v$version ;
BANNER
Oracle Database 11g Enterprise Edition Release 11.2.0.1.0 - Production
PL/SQL Release 11.2.0.1.0 - Production
CORE 11.2.0.1.0 Production
TNS for Linux: Version 11.2.0.1.0 - Production
NLSRTL Version 11.2.0.1.0 - Production
SQL> create table testtab(n number) cache;
Table created.
SQL> insert into testtab values(1);
1 row created.
SQL> commit;
Commit complete.
SQL> exec dbms_stats.gather_table_stats(user, 'TESTTAB', METHOD_OPT=>'FOR ALL COLUMNS SIZE 1');
PL/SQL procedure successfully completed.
SQL> create or replace function testfunc(p in varchar2)
2 return number
3 as
4 begin
5 dbms_application_info.set_client_info('executed with argument ' || p);
6 return 1;
7 end testfunc;
8 /
Function created.
SQL> select * from testtab where n=5 and testfunc('no worries')=1;
no rows selected
SQL> select sys_context('USERENV', 'CLIENT_INFO') from dual;
SYS_CONTEXT('USERENV','CLIENT_INFO')
executed with argument no worries
SQL> create or replace function testfunc(p in varchar2)
2 return number
3 as
4 begin
5 dbms_application_info.set_client_info(sys_context('USERENV', 'CLIENT_INFO') || '|testfunc with argument ' || p);
6 return 1;
7 end testfunc ;
8 /
Function created.
SQL> create or replace function testfunc2(p in varchar2)
2 return number
3 as
4 begin
5 dbms_application_info.set_client_info(sys_context('USERENV', 'CLIENT_INFO') || '|testfunc2 with argument ' || p);
6 return p;
7 end testfunc2;
8 /
Function created.
SQL> EXEC dbms_application_info.set_client_info('');
PL/SQL procedure successfully completed.
SQL> select * from testtab where testfunc2(n)=5 and testfunc('am I first?')=1;
no rows selected
SQL> select sys_context('USERENV', 'CLIENT_INFO') from dual;
SYS_CONTEXT('USERENV','CLIENT_INFO')
|testfunc with argument am I first?|testfunc2 with argument 1
SQL> EXEC dbms_application_info.set_client_info('');
PL/SQL procedure successfully completed.
SQL> select * from testtab where testfunc2(n)=1 and testfunc('so lonely...') = 0;
no rows selected
SQL> select sys_context('USERENV', 'CLIENT_INFO') from dual;
SYS_CONTEXT('USERENV','CLIENT_INFO')
|testfunc with argument so lonely...I have left out the statistics association part above as I believe it does not affect.
And below is the rewritten queries that result in functions being called in specific order
SQL> EXEC dbms_application_info.set_client_info('');
PL/SQL procedure successfully completed.
SQL> select * from testtab where decode(testfunc2(n),5,testfunc('am I first?'))=1;
no rows selected
SQL> select sys_context('USERENV', 'CLIENT_INFO') from dual;
SYS_CONTEXT('USERENV','CLIENT_INFO')
|testfunc2 with argument 1
SQL> EXEC dbms_application_info.set_client_info('');
PL/SQL procedure successfully completed.
SQL> select * from testtab where decode(testfunc2(n), 1, testfunc('so lonely...')) = 0;
no rows selected
SQL> select sys_context('USERENV', 'CLIENT_INFO') from dual;
SYS_CONTEXT('USERENV','CLIENT_INFO')
|testfunc2 with argument 1|testfunc with argument so lonely...One can also use the more flexible CASE expressions in place of DECODE.
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How do you run the optimizer with fixed orders?

Hi experts,
If the planner wishes to prioritize orders based on the customer demand, orders should be set as fixed.
How do I run the optimizer when using fixed orders??
Regards,
Analía Nahmías

Hi Analia,
Will you please elaborate more ?
It looks you are running SNP optimizer and want to use also make use of order prioirty functionlity.
You may be knowing already the contents below :
We know that Demand Prioritization functionlity is handled differently in SNP CTM and in SNP Optimizer.
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Maintain penalty costs in product master data via macro

Hi all,
I am trying to use the function MATLOC_SET to maintain the penalty cost (field Non. Del. Penalty) on SNP1 tab, but it didn't work.
Is it possible to use this function to update this field or I need to use an other function to do this?
I tried :
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Kishore Reddy,
Yes, it's possible to maintain product master data via macro by functions. In my case, I'm using MATLOC_SET and it's work fine... except for the penalty costs fields.
Saradha,
I can't use the MASSD to do this because the costs are calculated in the macro based on sku/location forecast. But call a custom program in the macro is a good idea. I only have a doubt... Is it possible to transfer the calculated values in the macro to the custom program? If it's possible, how can I do to call the custom program transferring these values?
Julien,
The function MATLOC_SET works fine for other fields, only doesn't work to penalty costs fields...
I saw that the structures are different, but the help that provides by SAP not mention any restriction. So, I think there is some other specific function to update the costs and i tried the MATLOC_EXTRA_SET, but it updates only extra fields...
May be having another function to do this...
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Doug

COGS (Cost of the Goods Sold) in OPM reg.

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This is very urgent.
Kindly do the needful.
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Ordered item to absorb the cost of the free goods

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Is it possible to force 16/32-bit stack alignment without using the optimizer?

The compiler emits code targeted at the classic Pentium architecture for the -m32 memory model. I'm running into problems mixing Sun Studio compiled code with code built with other compilers because the other compiler builds under the assumption that the stack is 16-byte aligned.
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Does it exist a way to make a reception of materials in transit and post the transportation cost before the reception of the material in MIGO ?
The material is own of company before to be receipt in plant. We need to pay the transportation before that material is arrived at plant.
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As of my knowledge, system will allow to process the shipment document - create shipment cost document and vendor invoice also, even before doing GR for the PO. Please check the scenario and revert back if you are getting any error.
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