Performance Degradation When Increasing Queues in Same Queue Space

Hi,
We are running tuxedo 8.1, 32 bit with patch level 258 in our windows server 2003 based production environment.
We've had to add quite a few more queues (approximately 10) into our existing queue space. However, what we have noticed is that there is a degradation in enqueing messages. It takes about 10% longer to enqueue a message and process messages, than before these new queues were introduced (despite the enqueues not happening to the majority of these new queues).
How can we improve this performance in Tuxedo?
Kind Regards,
Asim

Hi Asim,
Without know more about your configuration it's a little hard to say what's going on. Do you have more traffic in the queue space now that you have more queues? Are you using XA transactions and now maybe need to process a higher rate of XA transactions? For the later, you might try increasing the number of TMS processes configured for the group the TMQUEUE server is running in. You can also run multiple TMQUEUE servers if you aren't already. How many enqueue/dequeue operations are you trying to perform on the queue space per second?
Regards,
Todd Little
Oracle Tuxedo Chief Architect

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                                            where  coalesce (s.end_val_dat, to_date ('99991231', 'yyyymmdd')) >= sysdate) /*SGRB*/
                                    where  ctl_country = 'NL' /*EGRB*/
                                                             ) s
                            where  t.id_org_addr = s.id_org_addr)
                 minus
                 select 'different (target)' compare_type
                       ,s.id_org_addr id_org_addr -- ID_ORG_ADDR
                       ,s.ctl_country vpd_country -- CTL_COUNTRY
                       , (select to_number (l.target_value)
                          from   okc_code_foreign l
                          where  l.source_code_type = 'TYS'
                          and    l.target_code_type = 'ADDRLINKTYPE'
                          and    l.source_value = upper (s.addresstyp_cod)
                          and    l.vpd_country = s.ctl_country)
                           addr_type -- ADDRESSTYP_COD
                 from   (select *
                         from   (select m.target_value id_org_addr
                                       ,s.wkp_id_cegedim || '-' || s.adr_id_cegedim || '-' || s.addresstyp_cod id_cegedim
                                       ,s.*
                                 from      okc_mdl_workplace_address s
                                        left outer join
                                           m_sy_foreign_key m
                                        on m.vpd_country = s.ctl_country
                                        and m.key_type = 'ORGADDR2'
                                        and m.source_value = s.wkp_id_cegedim || '-' || s.adr_id_cegedim || '-' || s.addresstyp_cod
                                 where  coalesce (s.end_val_dat, to_date ('99991231', 'yyyymmdd')) >= sysdate) /*SGRB*/
                         where  ctl_country = 'NL' /*EGRB*/
                                                  ) s) When I run this statement using a insert by placing
    insert into okc_compare_results (
                   datetime
                  ,compare_tables_id
                  ,compare_target
                  ,record_count
                  ,groupby
                ) before the statement, then the statement runs about *3 to 4 minutes*, The same is happening when running the select part only using execute immediate.
    Below the execution plans of the insert with the select and the select only.
    Could somebody tell me what causes the different behavior of the "same" statement and what could I do to avoid this behavior.
    The database version is: 11.1.0.7.0
    Regards,
    Fred.
    SQL Statement which produced this data:
      select * from table(dbms_xplan.display_cursor ('cuk3uwnxx344q',0 /*3431532430 */))
      union all
      select * from table(dbms_xplan.display_cursor ('862aq599gfd6n',0/*3531428851 */))
    plan_table_output
    SQL_ID  cuk3uwnxx344q, child number 0
    select sysdate          ,:"SYS_B_00"          ,:"SYS_B_01"          
    ,count (:"SYS_B_02")          ,:"SYS_B_03" groupby    from   ( (select
    :"SYS_B_04" compare_type                    ,t.id_org_addr id_org_addr
    -- ID_ORG_ADDR                    ,t.vpd_country vpd_country --
    CTL_COUNTRY                    ,t.addr_type addr_type -- ADDRESSTYP_COD
                 from   (select *                      from   (select t.*   
                               from      ods.ods_org_addr t                 
                        left outer join                                     
       m_sy_foreign_key m                                     on
    m.vpd_country = t.vpd_country ;                                    and
    m.key_type = :"SYS_B_05"                                     and
    m.target_value = t.id_org_addr ;                             where  
    coalesce (t.end_date, to_date (:"SYS_B_06", :"SYS_B_07")) >= sysdate)
    /*SGRB*/                      where  vpd_country = :"SYS_B_08" /*EGRB*/
    Plan hash value: 3431532430
    Id   Operation                                  Name                       Rows   Bytes Cost (%CPU) Time      Pstart Pstop
    0 SELECT STATEMENT                                                                         1772 (100)                           
    1   SORT AGGREGATE                                                        1                                                
    2    VIEW                                                                 3           1772   (1) 00:00:22                
    3     MINUS                                                                                                                      
    4      SORT UNIQUE                                                        3 492   1146   (1) 00:00:14                
    *  5       HASH JOIN OUTER                                                   3 492   1145   (1) 00:00:14                
    6        NESTED LOOPS                                                                                                            
    7         NESTED LOOPS                                                    3 408    675   (1) 00:00:09                
    *  8          HASH JOIN                                                      42 4242    625   (1) 00:00:08                
    9           PARTITION LIST SINGLE                                         3375    148K    155   (2) 00:00:02    KEY    KEY
    * 10            TABLE ACCESS FULL                OKC_MDL_WORKPLACE_ADDRESS 3375    148K    155   (2) 00:00:02    KEY    KEY
    * 11           INDEX RANGE SCAN                  PK_M_SY_FOREIGN_KEY        49537   2709K    469   (1) 00:00:06                
    * 12          INDEX UNIQUE SCAN                  UK_ODS_ORG_ADDR            1              1   (0) 00:00:01                
    * 13         TABLE ACCESS BY GLOBAL INDEX ROWID ODS_ORG_ADDR               1 35      2   (0) 00:00:01 ROWID ROWID
    * 14        INDEX RANGE SCAN                     PK_M_SY_FOREIGN_KEY        49537   1354K    469   (1) 00:00:06                
    15      NESTED LOOPS                                                                                                              
    16       NESTED LOOPS                                                      1 67      9  (12) 00:00:01                
    17        NESTED LOOPS                                                     1 48      8  (13) 00:00:01                
    * 18         HASH JOIN                                                       1 23      6  (17) 00:00:01                
    * 19          TABLE ACCESS BY GLOBAL INDEX ROWID ODS_COUNTRY_SYSTEM         1 11      2   (0) 00:00:01 ROWID ROWID
    * 20           INDEX RANGE SCAN                  PK_ODS_DIVISION_SYSTEM     1              1   (0) 00:00:01                
    * 21          TABLE ACCESS FULL                  SY_SOURCE_CODE             8 96      3   (0) 00:00:01                
    22         TABLE ACCESS BY INDEX ROWID         SY_FOREIGN_CODE            1 25      2   (0) 00:00:01                
    * 23          INDEX RANGE SCAN                   PK_SY_FOREIGN_CODE         1              1   (0) 00:00:01                
    * 24        INDEX UNIQUE SCAN                    PK_SY_TARGET_CODE          1              0   (0)                           
    * 25       TABLE ACCESS BY INDEX ROWID           SY_TARGET_CODE             1 19      1   (0) 00:00:01                
    26      SORT UNIQUE                                                        3375    332K    626   (1) 00:00:08                
    * 27       HASH JOIN OUTER                                                   3375    332K    625   (1) 00:00:08                
    28        PARTITION LIST SINGLE                                            3375    148K    155   (2) 00:00:02    KEY    KEY
    * 29         TABLE ACCESS FULL                   OKC_MDL_WORKPLACE_ADDRESS 3375    148K    155   (2) 00:00:02    KEY    KEY
    * 30        INDEX RANGE SCAN                     PK_M_SY_FOREIGN_KEY        49537   2709K    469   (1) 00:00:06                
    Predicate Information (identified by operation id):
       5 - access("M"."TARGET_VALUE"="T"."ID_ORG_ADDR" AND "M"."VPD_COUNTRY"="T"."VPD_COUNTRY")
       8 - access("M"."SOURCE_VALUE"="S"."WKP_ID_CEGEDIM" :SYS_B_12 S."ADR_ID_CEGEDIM" :SYS_B_13 S."ADDRESSTYP_COD" AND
                  "M"."VPD_COUNTRY"="S"."CTL_COUNTRY")
      10 - filter(COALESCE("S"."END_VAL_DAT",TO_DATE(:SYS_B_14,:SYS_B_15))>=SYSDATE@!)
      11 - access("M"."KEY_TYPE"=:SYS_B_11 AND "M"."VPD_COUNTRY"=:SYS_B_16)
      12 - access("T"."ID_ORG_ADDR"="M"."TARGET_VALUE")
      13 - filter(("T"."VPD_COUNTRY"=:SYS_B_08 AND COALESCE("T"."END_DATE",TO_DATE(:SYS_B_06,:SYS_B_07))>=SYSDATE@!))
      14 - access("M"."KEY_TYPE"=:SYS_B_05 AND "M"."VPD_COUNTRY"=:SYS_B_08)
      18 - access("CS"."ID_SYSTEM"="SK"."ID_SOURCE_SYSTEM")
      19 - filter("CS"."SYSTEM_TYPE"=1)
      20 - access("CS"."VPD_COUNTRY"=:B1 AND "CS"."EXP_IMP_TYPE"='I')
           filter("CS"."EXP_IMP_TYPE"='I')
      21 - filter("SK"."CODE_TYPE"=:SYS_B_18)
      23 - access("FK"."ID_SOURCE_CODE"="SK"."ID_SOURCE_CODE" AND "FK"."SOURCE_VALUE"=UPPER(:B1) AND
                  "CS"."VPD_COUNTRY"="FK"."VPD_COUNTRY")
           filter(("FK"."VPD_COUNTRY"=:B1 AND "FK"."SOURCE_VALUE"=UPPER(:B2) AND "CS"."VPD_COUNTRY"="FK"."VPD_COUNTRY"))
      24 - access("FK"."ID_TARGET_CODE"="TK"."ID_TARGET_CODE")
      25 - filter("TK"."CODE_TYPE"=:SYS_B_19)
      27 - access("M"."SOURCE_VALUE"="S"."WKP_ID_CEGEDIM" :SYS_B_23 S."ADR_ID_CEGEDIM" :SYS_B_24 S."ADDRESSTYP_COD" AND
                  "M"."VPD_COUNTRY"="S"."CTL_COUNTRY")
      29 - filter(COALESCE("S"."END_VAL_DAT",TO_DATE(:SYS_B_25,:SYS_B_26))>=SYSDATE@!)
      30 - access("M"."KEY_TYPE"=:SYS_B_22 AND "M"."VPD_COUNTRY"=:SYS_B_27)
    SQL_ID  862aq599gfd6n, child number 0
    insert into okc_compare_results (                datetime               
    ,compare_tables_id               ,compare_target               
    ,record_count               ,groupby             )                
    select sysdate          ,:"SYS_B_00"          ,:"SYS_B_01"          
    ,count (:"SYS_B_02")          ,:"SYS_B_03" groupby    from   ( (select
    :"SYS_B_04" compare_type                    ,t.id_org_addr id_org_addr
    -- ID_ORG_ADDR                    ,t.vpd_country vpd_country --
    CTL_COUNTRY                    ,t.addr_type addr_type -- ADDRESSTYP_COD
                 from   (select *                      from   (select t.*   
                               from      ods.ods_org_addr t                 
                        left outer join                                     
       m_sy_foreign_key m                                     on
    m.vpd_country = t.vpd_country ;                                    and
    m.key_type = :"SYS_B_05"                                     and
    m.target_value = t.id_org_addr
    Plan hash value: 3531428851
    Id   Operation                                   Name                       Rows   Bytes Cost (%CPU) Time      Pstart Pstop
    0 INSERT STATEMENT                                                                          1646 (100)                           
    1   LOAD TABLE CONVENTIONAL                                                                                                       
    2    SORT AGGREGATE                                                        1                                                
    3     VIEW                                                                 1           1646   (1) 00:00:20                
    4      MINUS                                                                                                                      
    5       SORT UNIQUE                                                        1 163                                        
    6        NESTED LOOPS OUTER                                                1 163   1067   (1) 00:00:13                
    7         NESTED LOOPS                                                     1 135    599   (1) 00:00:08                
    *  8          HASH JOIN                                                       19 1919    577   (2) 00:00:07                
    9           PARTITION LIST SINGLE                                          1535 69075    107   (4) 00:00:02    KEY    KEY
    * 10            TABLE ACCESS FULL                 OKC_MDL_WORKPLACE_ADDRESS 1535 69075    107   (4) 00:00:02    KEY    KEY
    * 11           INDEX RANGE SCAN                   PK_M_SY_FOREIGN_KEY        49537   2709K    469   (1) 00:00:06                
    * 12          TABLE ACCESS BY GLOBAL INDEX ROWID ODS_ORG_ADDR               1 34      2   (0) 00:00:01 ROWID ROWID
    * 13           INDEX UNIQUE SCAN                  UK_ODS_ORG_ADDR            25              1   (0) 00:00:01                
    * 14         INDEX RANGE SCAN                     PK_M_SY_FOREIGN_KEY        1 28    468   (1) 00:00:06                
    15       NESTED LOOPS                                                                                                              
    16        NESTED LOOPS                                                      1 67      8   (0) 00:00:01                
    17         NESTED LOOPS                                                     1 48      7   (0) 00:00:01                
    18          NESTED LOOPS                                                    1 23      5   (0) 00:00:01                
    * 19           TABLE ACCESS BY GLOBAL INDEX ROWID ODS_COUNTRY_SYSTEM         1 11      2   (0) 00:00:01 ROWID ROWID
    * 20            INDEX RANGE SCAN                  PK_ODS_DIVISION_SYSTEM     1              1   (0) 00:00:01                
    * 21           TABLE ACCESS FULL                  SY_SOURCE_CODE             1 12      3   (0) 00:00:01                
    22          TABLE ACCESS BY INDEX ROWID         SY_FOREIGN_CODE            1 25      2   (0) 00:00:01                
    * 23           INDEX RANGE SCAN                   PK_SY_FOREIGN_CODE         1              1   (0) 00:00:01                
    * 24         INDEX UNIQUE SCAN                    PK_SY_TARGET_CODE          1              0   (0)                           
    * 25        TABLE ACCESS BY INDEX ROWID           SY_TARGET_CODE             1 19      1   (0) 00:00:01                
    26       SORT UNIQUE                                                        1535    151K                                        
    * 27        HASH JOIN OUTER                                                   1535    151K    577   (2) 00:00:07                
    28         PARTITION LIST SINGLE                                            1535 69075    107   (4) 00:00:02    KEY    KEY
    * 29          TABLE ACCESS FULL                   OKC_MDL_WORKPLACE_ADDRESS 1535 69075    107   (4) 00:00:02    KEY    KEY
    * 30         INDEX RANGE SCAN                     PK_M_SY_FOREIGN_KEY        49537   2709K    469   (1) 00:00:06                
    Predicate Information (identified by operation id):
       8 - access("M"."SOURCE_VALUE"="S"."WKP_ID_CEGEDIM" :SYS_B_12 S."ADR_ID_CEGEDIM" :SYS_B_13 S."ADDRESSTYP_COD" AND
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      11 - access("M"."KEY_TYPE"=:SYS_B_11 AND "M"."VPD_COUNTRY"=:SYS_B_16)
      12 - filter((COALESCE("T"."END_DATE",TO_DATE(:SYS_B_06,:SYS_B_07))>=SYSDATE@! AND "T"."VPD_COUNTRY"=:SYS_B_08))
      13 - access("T"."ID_ORG_ADDR"="M"."TARGET_VALUE")
      14 - access("M"."KEY_TYPE"=:SYS_B_05 AND "M"."VPD_COUNTRY"=:SYS_B_08 AND "M"."TARGET_VALUE"="T"."ID_ORG_ADDR")
           filter("M"."TARGET_VALUE"="T"."ID_ORG_ADDR")
      19 - filter("CS"."SYSTEM_TYPE"=1)
      20 - access("CS"."VPD_COUNTRY"=:B1 AND "CS"."EXP_IMP_TYPE"='I')
           filter("CS"."EXP_IMP_TYPE"='I')
      21 - filter(("SK"."CODE_TYPE"=:SYS_B_18 AND "CS"."ID_SYSTEM"="SK"."ID_SOURCE_SYSTEM"))
      23 - access("FK"."ID_SOURCE_CODE"="SK"."ID_SOURCE_CODE" AND "FK"."SOURCE_VALUE"=UPPER(:B1) AND
                  "CS"."VPD_COUNTRY"="FK"."VPD_COUNTRY")
           filter(("FK"."VPD_COUNTRY"=:B1 AND "FK"."SOURCE_VALUE"=UPPER(:B2) AND "CS"."VPD_COUNTRY"="FK"."VPD_COUNTRY"))
      24 - access("FK"."ID_TARGET_CODE"="TK"."ID_TARGET_CODE")
      25 - filter("TK"."CODE_TYPE"=:SYS_B_19)
      27 - access("M"."SOURCE_VALUE"="S"."WKP_ID_CEGEDIM" :SYS_B_23 S."ADR_ID_CEGEDIM" :SYS_B_24 S."ADDRESSTYP_COD" AND
                  "M"."VPD_COUNTRY"="S"."CTL_COUNTRY")
      29 - filter(COALESCE("S"."END_VAL_DAT",TO_DATE(:SYS_B_25,:SYS_B_26))>=SYSDATE@!)
      30 - access("M"."KEY_TYPE"=:SYS_B_22 AND "M"."VPD_COUNTRY"=:SYS_B_27)Edited by: BluShadow on 20-Jun-2012 10:30
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