Audio Settings for Premiere Pro CS4 during capture

During some other discussions regarding audio challenges with PP CS4 someone pointed out that if you analyze a file with G spot it should be in WAV format. I did this and I see my footage is showing PCM Audio at 48000Hz 1536 kb/s tot (2 chnls). Based on the fact that I record SD footage (audio selected to 16 bit 48k) onto a Mini DV tape on a DVX 100B and export via Firewire into PP CS4 does that sound right?
In the Preferences window I have Premiere Pro WDM Sound selected as the default device (Adobe default windows sound and creative ASIO are the other options) . The input and output in Audio Hardware Settings has the Buffer size sliding bar at about 25% across from the left and the Device 32-bit playback is unchecked.
I am just worried about what my dialog will sound like by the time it is edited in PP and send to Encore to export to DVD.
Thanks for any input you can offer.
Cole

GSpot should have shown the audio as WAV not PCM.
These are two different things. WAV is a computer file format for audio files, much like TXT is a format for text files or EXE is a format for executable files (programs). This is just the specifications for the file formatting on the hard drive. It applies to audio only files. Those which contain both audio and video will not be WAV files.
PCM (Pulse Code Modulation) is a method of encoding analog audio, turning it into a digital signal. This applies to both computers and separate components (CD players, DAWs, most cameras). It is the codec CDs use. It is also the standard for DV. Even most WAV files contain PCM audio.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wav
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pulse-code_modulation

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