Plan Indirect Activity allocation

Hi everybody,
during the execution of Plan Indirect Activity allocation, after filling the cycle I detected the following error message:
"You are not authorized to run cycles on CC : Z910
Message no. 00368
Diagnosis
Error message of the batch input with variable text. A more precise explanation is not possible."
Any suggestion on this, please?
Thanks in advance,
Barbara

Hi Ramakrishna,
I've thought this but the strange thing is that the error message appears only for some cycles and not for all. As a matter of fact one of the cycles that I've created has been successfully executed without any problems.
Any idea about this strange system behaviour?
In the meanwhile I'll check in relation to the authorization profile.
Thanks in advance.
Barbara

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Iteraton in Indirect Activity Allocation

Hi All,
At the outset, I WISH YOU ALL A HAPPY N PROSPEROUS NEW YEAR 2009.
Issue:
There are around 15 Service and Utility Cost centers and about 50 Administrative Cost Centers.
The cost to be planned for these cost centers includes Fixed Cost and Variable Cost. But in SAP, Cost Element Planning for these cost centers in KP06, will allow only planning of Fixed Cost because there is no activity planning for these cost centers.
IS THERE ANY WAY TO PLAN VARIABLE COST IN ACTIVITY INDEPENDENT PLANNING?
For Service and Utility Cost Centers above, I created activity types and could plan both Fixed and Variable costs. But, Clientu2019s business process demands iteration to take place among Service and Utility Cost Centers. Once the system does the iteration, then what ever the cost Per Unit comes in each of the Cost Centers is considered to be their final Per Unit Cost of services.
I created Plan Cycle for Indirect Activity Allocation. But there is no u201CIterationu201D possible in that. The Activity Type Category in Plan is 2/3 and in Actual u201CBlanku201D (As in Planning).
Because there is no Iteration available in Plan Indirect Activity Allocation, I created cycle for only Service Cost Centers (to get the Service Cost Per Unit) and Assessment Cycle to allocate the cost from Service Cost Centers to Production Cost Centers. When I run the Indirect Activity Allocation cycle, the system is allocating the cost from sender Service Cost Center to all Receiver Cost Centers by taking the Ratio of SKF instead of considering the Actual SKF Value.
Example:
Sender Service Cost Center A has Planned Activity Quantity of 1000 hr and Planned Cost of USD 100000. So, Planned Cost per Hr is USD 100. The receiver Service Cost Centers B, C, D has consumed 10, 20 and 30 hours respectively and balance of 940 hours were consumed by Production Cost Centers.
My Plan Indirect Activity Allocation Cycle is as followsu2026
Sender Cost Center       Receiver Cost Center     RTF
Service Cost Center A      Service Cost Center B     10
               Service Cost Center C     20
               Service Cost Center D     30
So, I expect the system to allocate cost of USD 1000, USD 2000, and USD 3000 from Cost Center A to B, C, and D respectively.
But I found the system taking the ration of B: C: D i.e., 10:20:30. So, the allocated amount isu2026
To Cost Center B = (10/60)* USD 100000
To Cost Center B = (20/60)* USD 100000
To Cost Center B = (30/60)* USD 100000
Though in u201CTarget=Actualu201D (which is based on u201COperating Rateu201D) method iteration is possible, this method is not suitable for clientu2019s business process, as, the actual activity hrs will be calculated by the system automatically based on the changes in output of final receiver cost centers. (Ex. When I do Plan Reconciliation).
I seek your suggestion regarding this.
Srikanth Munnaluri
Hewlett Packard
+91 9002288376
Edited by: Srikanth Munnaluri on Jan 5, 2009 7:15 AM

Hi Srikanth,
Did you get a way to plan varriable costs in activity independant planning? Even I am looking for a solution to the problem. Let me know if you found out a way to do it.
Thanks
Naveen

Variable Costs using SKF in Indirect Activity Allocation

Hello
I am trying to use indirect activity allocations and KSPI to transfer costs from an activity in an indirect cost center to multiple direct cost centers. The Receiver tracing factor is planned SKF (i.e. number of employees). The issue I have is that when doing this allocation, the variable cost at the indirect cost center gets transferred as a fixed cost to the direct cost centers. We need to have this as a variable cost on the direct cost centers. Can anyone suggest anything or let me know if I'm doing something wrong?
Here are my sender/receivers:
Sender:
Quantities Calculated Inversely
Plan Values
Receiver tracing factor:
variable Portions
Planned SKF
No Scaling
Thank you

Hi Mark
I was able to achieve this in the past...as below
1. On the indirect Cost center - Use an activity type Catg 2 (indirect entry indirect allocation)
2. On the receiver cost centers - Use an act type Catg 4 (Instead of SKF)
3. Enter the Plan Act Qty for this Act Type on the receiver direct cost centers in KP26 and Actual Qty in KB51N
4. In cycle definition - Var Portion Type would be based on Plan Act Qty instead of SKF
5. Execute KSCB - Folllowed by KSPI.....
You can also try the above using SKF on receiver cost centers - But Act Type Catg 2 on the Sender Indirect cost center.... I guess, this is what you have done... In my opinion, this should also work...
I believe, to transfer the costs as variable - You need to plan them in KP06 as variable (i.e. Activity Dependant Planning)....
So, Plan your expenses on the indirect cost center in KP06 with reference to the Act Type Category 2
br, Ajay M

Problem in Indirect activity allocation ( KSCB)

Hi!
I am getting the error while executing kscb like below:
Cycle OSVIUSTES2, start date 20110301, does not include any senders.
No valid sender entries were found.
Message no. GA710
I have maintained planning for sender cost centre & activity ype (KP06).
properly given sender cost centre /activity type and receiver cost center/activity ype in cycle ( KSC7).
sender activity type category is 3 ( manual entry, indirect),, receiver activity type category is 1 ( manual entry, manual allocation).
can any one suggest where could be wrong.
regs,
ramesh

Hi!
I am explaining my scenario here:
I have done cost centre planning in KP06 for production cost centre and production activity type for example cost centre 1 & cost centre 2 and activity type 1 with some cost elements.
I have executed LTP and passed the Planned activity quantity to KP26.
Now I have some costs like energy , which I want to distribute to production cost costre using indirect activity allocation. So I have defined IAA cycle ( as you suggested using rule 3. quantity calculated inversely and sender cost centre is costcentre3 and activitytype2 ( category 2 indirect entry,indirect allocation) and receiver as cost centre 1 & 2 and activity type1 . sender values 1000 and receiving tracing factors cost centrea 85% & cost centre2 15%.
I have maintained cost centre planning for sender i.e cost centre3 & activity type2 in KP06.
Executed the IAA cycle (KSCB) with out errors.
Now exeucted KSPI, then system is picking the costs maintained for cost center 1 & 2 , it is not picking the costs which were mainttained for cost centre 3 & activity type 2.
my assumption is, once IAA is executed, system has to transfer the costs to production cost centres and then arrive activity prices.
Please suggest me where I went wrong?
regs,
ramesh

Problem in indirect activity allocation to CO-PA (transaction KEG3)

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I am in process of testing indirect activity allocation (KEG3) to CO-PA.
Sender is cost center and activity.
Receiver - a set of characters like Co Code, Product and so.
Sender rule is Posted quantities.
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SKD

Hi SKD ,
Can you please elaborate what logic is used for indirect activity allocation to COPA ..
Why are you transferring activities to COPA directly .. not to cost centers...whats the business logic .. and also let us know the parameters used in Indirect Activity Allocation cycle.. to answer your queries further
Regards
Sarada

Difference between Indirect & direct activity allocation?

Hello all,
please send any information on the subject. Thanks.
Ashwini

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Indirect activity allocation is used when quantity is not directly known and cost is allocated on the basis of statistical key figures e.g. number of employees.

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Thanks a lot, its good news for us
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What's the diff betweeen Direct & Indirect Activity All

Hello Experts,
please lemme know the diff between Direct Activity Allocation & Indirect Activity Allocation.

Hi Hussein,
Direct Activity Allocation and Indirect Activity Allocation
Hi Joshi,
Direct activity allocation involves the measuring, recording, and allocating of business services performed. To do this, you must create the relevant (measurable) tracing factors (allocation bases which can be used as cost drivers). In Cost Center Accounting these are known as activity types. Activity allocation occurs, for example, when business transactions are confirmed or when posting activity quantities to accounts. The system multiplies the activity produced by the price of the activity type.
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2 hrs X 15 USD/hr = 30 USD
The u201CPlumbersu201D cost center is credited with this amount and the HI production cost center is debited correspondingly.
Indirect activity allocation can be used to automatically allocate planned and actual activities.
You can specify keys to allocate activity, which is not possible when you use manual activity input in the plan or actual activity allocation. In addition, if calculating the sender activity quantities involves too much time or expense, the system can determine the activity quantity inversely based on the activity of the receivers.
If you execute indirect activity allocation without completing planning for the combination cost center/activity type, you must activate the actual price indicator in the activity type master data.
A special type of indirect activity allocation for actual allocation is the plan=actual activity allocation. In contrast to other types of indirect activity allocation, the plan=actual activity allocation allows for a multiple level activity network to be determined iteratively with the operating rate as the tracing factor.
You can choose between two methods of indirect activity allocation, depending on the activity types category. These methods are determined for each segment and can be combined in one cycle.
Activity quantities can be determined on the sender object:
For certain activity types you can determine the total activity quantity for each sender. These are category 3 activity types, Manual entry, indirect allocation.
Using indirect activity allocation, these posted activity quantities are distributed by the senders among the receivers defined in the segment according to their allocation bases. The corresponding segment must use the sender rule Posted quantities. Any receiver rule can be used, with the exception of Fixed quantities.
The Quality control cost center uses 1000 hours of the Testing activity type. This cost center provides activity for the cost centers Goods receipt and Finished products. Allocations are made on the basis of the tracing factor Number of test items (TI). These are 4000 items for the Goods receipt cost center and 6000 items for Finished products. This corresponds to an activity input of 400 hours for Goods receipt and 600 hours for Finished products.
The price per activity unit for the Quality control cost center is 50 USD/hr. This results in activity output costs of 50,000 USD. The receiver cost centers are debited with the following costs based on the tracing factor TI.
Goods receipt: (50,000 USD X 4000 TI) / 10,000 TI = 20,000 USD
Finished products: (50,000 USD X 6.000 TI) / 10,000 TI = 30,000 USD
Pls revert back for futher explanation...
Srikanth Munnaluri

Target = Activity allocation(KNMA)

Hello All,
Can any one please help me on the following issue. (Indirect activity allocation)
The system is considering both variable and fixed planning costs adjusting with operating rate while calculating the target cost and settling to receiving cost center. This is wrong, it should only consider variable cost with operating rate in deriving the target cost. can any please suggest me where should I focus to solve this issue. Early help in this regard is very much appreciated.
Thank you
Srinivas

Hi Srinivas,
I missed this post.
The system behaviour of considering both variable and fixed price is correct.
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Best Regards
Surya

Costing run and activity allocation

hi,
as there is a costing run (routing) to get the cost, may i know why still need to do direct or indirect activity allocation ; actual assessment ; actual distribution?
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rgds

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c) indirect activity allocation
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thank you.
help.sap.com

Internal Activity Allocation
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_46c/helpdata/en/35/289f319c4a1941e000080009927d9b/content.htm
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http://help.sap.com/saphelp_45b/helpdata/en/99/0159b69c9311d1a5820000e82de878/content.htm
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Actual Activity allocation and Planned and actual activity comparison issue in Product Costing

Friends,
I have tried to explain the issue i am facing currently under Product Costing......
1.Cost Component Structure
10 – Material
20 – Labour
30 – Diesel
40 – Electricity
2.KP26 – Planned under Fixed Price
Labour – 2.0 HR
Diesel – 1.0 HR
Electricity – 5.0 HR
3. When I run CK11N system collecting correct rates for all activities (Costing Lot Size- 1)
Like;
1              E              LAB10    994310                  2.00        2.00        AED        1.0          HR Labour Cost New
2              E              DIE20    994320                  5.00        5.00        AED        1.0          HR Diesel Cost New
3              E              ELE30    994330                  1.00        1.00        AED        1.0          HR Electricity Cost
4              M            1100000042                          5.00        0.00        AED        1              PC RAW MATERIAL BAKERY CONSUMED
5              G            994201                                0.00        0.00        AED                        Depriciation Cost
6              G            994202                                0.00        0.00        AED                        Sales & Distribution Cost
                                                                          13.00                    AED
4.When I do process order Cost analysis for the produced goods it shows me different figures as my
BOM – RM is 1100000042 1 Quantity
Routing – All activity time is 1 Hr
40002                    RAW MATERIAL BAKERY CONSUMED          1005/1100000042            5.00
40015                    COST OF GOODS MANUFACTURED              1005/4400000071            13.00-
994310                  Labour Cost New                                              CBAKYPDDXB/LAB10      1.33
994320                  Diesel Cost New                                              CBAKYPDDXB/DIE20      3.33
994330                  Electricity Cost                                                CBAKYPDDXB/ELE30      0.67
                                                                                                                                          2.67- AED
Note :- As per my understanding it should be
    Labour Cost New                                            2.00
                Diesel Cost New                                              5.00
                Electricity Cost                                                1.00
5.Now after Process Order confirmation
40002                    RAW MATERIAL BAKERY CONSUMED          1005/1100000042            5.00
40015                    COST OF GOODS MANUFACTURED              1005/4400000071            00.00
994310                  Labour Cost New                                              CBAKYPDDXB/LAB10      4.00
994320                  Diesel Cost New                                              CBAKYPDDXB/DIE20      5.00
994330                  Electricity Cost                                                CBAKYPDDXB/ELE30      2.00
                                                                                                                                          16.00
6.For Month end actual Activity calculation and load the activaty actual rates on product
I have configured the system in below manner
1 Work center = Mapped to 1 Production Cost center
Three Different Activities mapped to Secondary Cost Element with 43 Category
For Electrictity Activity assesment from Primary to secondary 1 more cost element created with
      Category 42 Like; 994215-Electricity Cost All
One Actual Assessment has been configured to allocate Electricity cost from Primary Cost element to
      Product/Order
7.Assessment Cycle Details
Controlling Area      1000 Controlling Area
Cycle                ZELE01                  Status    Reviewed
Start Date 01.01.2014 To 31.10.2014
Text                  Elec. Cost Allocation to PROD
IND- Interactive
Assessment CEle       994215      Electricity Cost All
Sender
Cost Center    CBAKYDXBAD
Cost Element 40204
Receiver
Cost Center    CBAKYPDDXB
Tracing Factor
Var.portion type – Actual Activity
Selaction Criteria
Activity Type - ELE30
Receivers Tracing Factor
Cost Ctr Factor per        100
CBAKYPDDXB 100
8.I have received the actuall electricity bill for 1100 AED and the same has accocated through KSU5
After Cycle run when I follow below procedure
KSS2 Actual cost splitting
CBAKYPDDXB                    Production Dxb                LAB01                    183.33
CBAKYPDDXB                    Production Dxb                DIE02                    183.33
CBAKYPDDXB                    Production Dxb                ELE03                    183.33
CBAKYPDDXB                    Production Dxb                DIE20                    183.33
CBAKYPDDXB                    Production Dxb                ELE30                    183.33
CBAKYPDDXB                    Production Dxb                LAB10                    183.35
                                                                                                                1100.00
Issue – System Split Electricity cost between all the activities assigned to Workcentres Cost Centre.
But I want to post that cost only to ELE30 Activity and not for all
When I RUN KSSI for actual Price determination system shows
OTy        Object                                  Name                  AUn                Act Qty      Total price    Price (Fixed)              PUnit
ATY        CBAKYPDDXB/DIE20        Production Dxb      HR                  5.0          366.66                  366.66                    10
ATY        CBAKYPDDXB/ELE30        Production Dxb      HR                  2.0          916.65                  916.65                    10
ATY        CBAKYPDDXB/LAB10        Production Dxb      HR                  2.0          916.75                916.75                    10
                                                                                                                                                      2200.06
2200.06 is almost double than 1100.00 which is actual electricity cost and the same is actually determined for all the activities.
After revaluation of the process order system posting below values
40002                    RAW MATERIAL BAKERY CONSUMED          1005/1100000042                            5.00        5.00
40015                    COST OF GOODS MANUFACTURED              1005/4400000071                            13.00-    13.00-
994310                  Labour Cost New                                            CBAKYPDDXB/LAB10                      1.33        183.35
994320                  Diesel Cost New                                              CBAKYPDDXB/DIE20                      3.33        183.33
994330                  Electricity Cost                                                CBAKYPDDXB/ELE30                      0.67        183.33
                                                                                                                                                          2.67-      542.01
Production Variance is posted as 542.01….
I strongly believe there is some issue in configuration for activity allocation….
Main issue is
Point No. 4 – Different Figures in Process Order Cost Analysis
Point No. 7 – Assessment cycle run
Point No. 8 – KSS2 and KSII for Actual cost Allocation and Production variance…
Friends… I have tried to explain maximum please help me to understand the concept or missing configuration/Process.
Thanks
Sagar Chinchkar

Dear Rajneesh,
I have made the changes as suggested....
It seems now my Order Cost analysis and Product cost analysis are showing the same figures.
I have also maintained cost center splitting structure for ELE30 Activity allocation.
Structure Z1
Splitting structure for AT
Assignment 10
Electricity Cost
100
Allocation for ELE
Cost Element
994215
Activity Type
ELE30
Splitting Rule
100
Allocation for ELE
12
Activity quantity
Version 0
In my case actual activity confirmed is 3.1 for 2 orders in period 5
Order 1 - QTY 2
Order 2 - QTY 1.1
Total actual Electricity exp is 1150 in period 5
followed procedure to post actual activity on product is mentioned below
KSS2 Actual cost splitting - Result as expected 1150 for ELE30
KSII Actual price determination - Result as expected 3.1 actual confirmed QTY for ELE30 with actual price
       QTY 3.1         Tot Price 3,709.68        Planned(FIX) 3,709.68     Per Units 10
       (System is doing 1150/3.1*10=3709.68)
    3.CON2 Actual revaluation of orders
      Here while reevaluating the Process Orders system calculation is different
Order 1 - QTY 2 -   558.00
Order 2 - QTY 1.1 - 407.56
Total -                    965.57
     4. After CON2 system is changing the value of other activities like
     LAB10 - Actual confirmed Value 10 to 0
     DIE20 - Actual confirmed Value 10 to 0
Which should not be the case....
                                                                                                              PL     Act     Var
40002
RAW MATERIAL BAKERY CONSUMED
1005/1100000042
10.00
15.00
50.00
40015
COST OF GOODS MANUFACTURED
1005/4400000074
26.00-
26.00-
994201
Depriciation Cost
WMBDDEP01
1.00
0.00
100.00-
994202
Sales & Distribution Cost
WMBDS&A01
1.00
0.00
100.00-
994310
Labour Cost New
CBAKYPDDXB/LAB10
4.00
0.00
100.00-
994320
Diesel Cost New
CBAKYPDDXB/DIE20
10.00
0.00
100.00-
994330
Electricity Cost
CBAKYPDDXB/ELE30
2.00
408.06
20,303.00
If we want to just post Electricity cost based on actual Electricity expenses and Labor and Diesel are based on planned activity rates.
What setting is required in current system.....
Million thanks in advance....
Regards
Sagar Chinchkar

Que-''actual activity allocation is not allowed for order .''

hi ,
During confirmation of operation at co11n (also at co11), got one error massage i.e "actual activity allocation is not allowed for order "
Due to this error confirmation is not possible .
pls help me to solve this problem.
AMOL WAGH
Edited by: amol wagh on Dec 6, 2008 8:09 PM
Edited by: amol wagh on Dec 6, 2008 8:10 PM

Dear,
For allocation activity costs, we need to define activity type in KL01 by specifying the unit of measurement of the particular activity type (like machine - Hours etc.). While creating activity type, we will assign a secondary cost element (with category 43) in the activity type through which the activity cost will flow.
After that we will plan for cost center in KP06 (cost elementwise). Then we will plan machine hours in KP26 where we will link the activity type to a particular cost center.
Please give the feed back.
Regards,
R.Brahmankar

Actual activity allocation is not allowed for order .

hi ,
During confirmation of operation at co11n (also at co11), got one error massage i.e "actual activity allocation is not allowed for order "
Due to this error confirmation is not possible .
pls help me to solve this problem.
AMOL WAGH

Dear,
What is message number? Did you assign the usersttus in BS02?
For allocation activity costs, we need to define activity type in KL01 by specifying the unit of measurement of the particular activity type (like machine - Hours etc.). While creating activity type, we will assign a secondary cost element (with category 43) in the activity type through which the activity cost will flow.
After that we will plan for cost center in KP06 (cost elementwise). Then we will plan machine hours in KP26 where we will link the activity type to a particular cost center.
When we do price calculation in KSPI, system checks the planned costs for cost center (in KP06) and also checks the machine hours planned (in KP26) and gives the cost for the particular activity type.
Please check the above in the system
Regards,
R.Brahmankar

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