Planning Forms Performance

what exactly causes the dataforms running slow or doesn't open for ever?
we have an issue going on here with one of our data forms with 2 large sparse dimension in the rows.
The goal is to put these 2 dimensions in the rows and query to filter the rows according to the user
security or the supress missing options. All the remaining forms working fine other than this form.
That I know planning will first try to create a grid and sends the query to essbase to filter the members based on security or the supress missing
to get the data for filling in the form. So where this bottleneck coming from? Essbase data retrieval? Planning grid formation?
we tried increasing the JVM to 2GB and still the same issue?
Ques?
--> would RAM on planning server plays any role to these kind of queries?
--> what is difference with supress missing or security? will they help avoiding the scan in the cube or they just help for the display only?
Any help is much appriciated!
--Ram

Hi Ben,
Thanks for the reply!
So in my case planning is not able to create Grid it self for this form. If that is correct , do you know anything that we can do to solve this?
I am assuming this because, some other forms are taking little time, but they are working, but this form is just hang-up?
--Ram

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Cameron & David,
Yes. This is a very strange req. The Product line (26K) are all Level-0 members & there is no fixed Product to Market mapping. Any combination is possible.
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Mahesh,
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