Planning on WBS elements without cost elements

Hi all,
we are trying to implement the planning solution where users will be able to plan on individual WBS elements monthly but without providing a breakdown on cost elements. Standard SAP planning profiles allow to post plan values on WBS elements in annual view without cost elements. But when you want a monthly view the system you need to click on primary cost elements planning first.
Is there any way to plan monthly but at cost object (WBS) level only?
Many thanks,
Roman

Hi Eli,
thanks for your response. We will be using budget functionality for budget purposes but at the same time we will need to use planning on different versions. I believe there are no versions for budget.
One of the idea to minimize cost element planning is to introduce like a planning cost element to use with all planning postings and then include this into the same cost element group with the rest of cost elements for plan/actuals comparison reports.
If you have something in your mind I would appreciate your input.
Thank you,
Roman

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