Planning Strategy 81 - Assembly order

Hello,
My requirement is as follows :-
On creation of Sales order Planned order get trigger.
Any changes in sales order should reflect in Planned order.
Any changes in dates of planned order must get reflect in Sales order.
For this I am using planning strategy 81ie Assembly order. If i do changes in sales order the planned order is changed.
But if i change planned order dates system gives message "Assembly order, changes are transferred to Sales Order"
but if i check the sales order there are no changes.
Any one please show some light on this.
Thanks in advance.
Regards
Abhijit

Hi Abhijit,
1. Kindly check the setting for hte requirement class in the ovzg.
2. in this check if hte no update is selected.
3. As per your requirement no update should be empty
Kindly check and confirm.
REg
dsk

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Hi Jorg,
To my understanding if you need hard pegging then in SAP only Individual requirement is possible.
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You need to take the help of ABAP expert for this,
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TAB, we will see condition type EK02 and its value.
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Why material with planning strategy 50 there is EK02 in the sales order?
Where is the EK02 come from? The requriement class ? Or the Salse order Type?
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Hi,
In MTO you will create Process order.
And to Produce a Item you use Sub components that is Raw material
That raw material cost is EK02 which you maintain in the Material Master - Accounting View 1.
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Strategy 50 is for the MTO scenario wherein you do the production specific to the customer, in general words, you cannot swap sales order stock. So you can use strategy 50, as you are saying that it is customer oriented, and definitely customers are going to give orders.
I think are you saying that the raw material for the finished product which the customers of your client are needing can also be used by your own client, right.
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My client having Both scenario of Make to order and make to stock ,so please explain me step by step which Planning strategy is use for following situation
1.Forecast the production quantities for the variants and create the PIRs
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Hi Robert,
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Changing from 52 to 20
following effcets
See that all the PIR's are consumed before switch over.
Do you have any part of BOM items specific to sales order, if so need to be carefull about the consumption...may have to plan sme stock before switch over as in 20 and 52, the important difference is procurement before and after.
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I have a query on strategy 59.
I create PIR for phantom assembly & run MRP. Requirements for components are generated. Components are produced.
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My query is that after these steps although the SO for finished material vanishes, the dep req. still appear for phantom assembly & does not disappear. Also PIR of phantom assembly though appear to be reduced, but if we look at it in display/change mode original qty is there, so in actual terms PIR is not consumed but is anly allocated.
Any pointers on this?
regards,
Mohit

Hello,
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u2022     Strategy group 59 on the MRP screen.
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u2022     Consumption parameters (Consumption mode, Bwd consumption, Fwd consumption on the MRP screen) to allow for consumption of planned independent requirements.
u2022     Set the Special procurement field on the MRP screen to 50 (phantom assembly)
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Hello Pradeep
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One of our requirements happens to be that when sales order comes in near future (within time fence as an example) - we want to explode into the BOM and look at components availability and promise the sales order to the comp availability. Additionally, When sales order comes in FUTURE - we want to leave MRP to plan for that instead of ATO to be invoked.
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VG,
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