Repetitive Manufacturing and Planning Strategy 52

Can I run Repetitive Manufacturing on a material with the planning strategy of 52 (Plnng w/o final assem. w/o make-to.stock) ?
When i try to perform backflush on the planned orders, i am faced with the following error :
<b>Plnd ord. <i>XXXXX</i> is a plnd order for planning w/o final assembly
Message no. RM131</b>
Please advise.
Thanks

for planning strategy you can execute production(ie backflush in REM) only after u receive a sales order. please ensure that a sales order is in place.

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I have done extensive search online in the forum to find the route cause why we are getting MRP exception message 64 for a specific material in one of our plants. This exception message does not occur for the same materials which is also produced in another plant.
I was just wondering whether the planning strategy group of 52 in MRP 3 view would have any effect on the frequent occurrence of exception message 64. I know that the 64 message occurs when the routing time is higher than the in house production time. If that's the case where to look for in routing to correct this, apart from this do we need to look at work centers and other details. I'm not a PP person but still was curious to know see if i could take a shot at it.
Also the MRP settings that we follow in the plant where this problem does not occur is NETCH, Create PR - 2, Schedule lines - 3, create MRP list - 1, Planning mode - 3, scheduling -2
in the plant where the 64 message occurs quite often is Netch, Create PR -2, Schedule lines - 3, create MRP list - 1, planning mode - 1, Schdeduliing - 1
I was thinking do MRP settings and planning strategy group would have any impact on why we are getting the 64 wexception message
Because of this 63 exception message, the downstream components are getting wrong signals.
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Hello Ravi
Generallt, exception message "64 - Production finish after order finish" is triggered when the order start date is in the past and system automatically changes to forward scheduling to calculate the finish date.
Note 1913017 explains how the order basic date is calculated and adjusted in case of forward scheduling, however, you are using strategy 52 and this is a very special scenario, whever VP planned orders are generated.
The VP planned orders will always be adjusted to the requirements date even if the requirements date is in the past. This is a special feature in the planning segment, since these orders are only kind of 'virtual' planned orders. These orders only have to provide the demand requirements for the components in time.
Therefore, there is a relationship between strategy 52 (VP planned order) and the exception message observed.
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Repetitive Manufacturing and Run Schedule Header

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Could you Please Explain to me the Process of Repetitive Manufacturing after run MRP and get planned orders for RS
What happend after that , how to deal with planned orders and and how to create Run schedule Header
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Dear Rami,
As explained by our forum members the concept of creating RS header is more valid and not required,configuring a REM profile in
OSP2 and assigning the same in the material master and REM allowed setting in MRP4 view and in the production version and
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If you want more explanation regarding the same means please revert.
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Repetitive manufacturing and 2 ways of manufacturing

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One finished product called A is manufactured using 2 different ways :
-> one way is to use a supplied component B ( bought from a supplier )
-> second way is to use a semi-finished product C instead of using the supplied component.
the two ways can be used in the same time.
How to manage this from the creation and management of the BOM and master data to the MPS/MRP in SAP in REPETITIVE MANUFACTURING ?
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1.You have to Create Alternative 01 & 02 for FG material.
2.Create two routing if Production process is different using different BOM.
3.Create the Version 0001 with 1st alternative & 0002 with 2nd Alternative.
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Repetitive manufacturing and backflush

Hello,
I'm new in SAP.
for example a BOM : A is a finixhed product
A
--- B
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How to do backflush through all the BOM in SAp when I do a production declaration of A in MFBF ?
Thanks a lot.
Romeo.

Dear Romeo,
For all the HALB and FERT materials which are in-house manufactured products with a procurement type E,which are not a
phantom assembly for these materials backflush will be done through MFBF.
Say If A contains B and C as its components and again B is a HALB,first backflush for B through MFBF and then for A using T Code
MFBF.
For all these materials say A and B you must have included REM allowed indicator and REM profile in MRP4 view and also a
production version and REM allowed indicator inside the production version throu MM02 or else in C223 and also a product cost
collector in KKF6N and a preliminary cost estimate.
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Difference between repetative manufacturing and discreate manufacturing

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Guru's
What is the difference between repetative manufacturing and discreate manufacturing in product costing.

Dear Manish,
Repetitive Manufacturing
In repetitive manufacturing, master plans are typically created on a period and quantity basis (reduction in individual lot and
order-specific processing). A quantity of one product is manufactured over a certain period. The product is processed in a constant flow and interim products are generally not stocked. In repetitive manufacturing, you usually find that the effort required for production control is significantly less than is required for single lot and order-based production control and the recording of actual data is kept simpler. Repetitive manufacturing can be used for various industries, such as the
consumer packaged goods industry, the electronic industry, packaging industry, for example.
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Discrete manufacturing is characterized by requirements that occur on an irregular basis and a workshop-oriented process.
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Discreet, You do have falls out reworks and move into production missing materials, long lead time its essential to know what and where it is at in production, cost may vary a little but each production order will be costed independantly for review.
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Options on BOM component backflushing (Repetitive Manufacturing)

We are in the process of implementing Repetitive Manufacturing and we would like some insight regarding BOM
component backflushing.
Our requirements:
1) In a scenario with insufficient unrestricted component stock the entire transaction should be stopped, including the
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1.Check in the REM profile whether the check box for error correction in dialog mode is mandatory.
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http://www.sapfunctional.com/PP/REM/page1.htm
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Link between process order and sales order for planning strategy 52

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I investigate the possibility of a link between "sales order" and "planned order / process order" for the usage of planning strategy 52 (planning w/o final assembly, make to stock).
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Jörg Demtschuk

Hi Jorg,
To my understanding if you need hard pegging then in SAP only Individual requirement is possible.
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Planning strategy for Both scenario of Make to order and make to stock

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My client having Both scenario of Make to order and make to stock ,so please explain me step by step which Planning strategy is use for following situation
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Moderator message: not a proper question, please do more research before posting, show what you have done yourself when posting.
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