Please guide me on unicode conversion

Hi All,
Presently we are having 4.7ee,oracle and win 2003 and aix..
Our client is planning for unicode conversion...Please help me in preparing for unicode conversion..In the form of guids...screen shots...in and out of the unicode conversion process....
Thanks in Advance,
Kasperr.

Some useful links -
Making ABAP Programs Unicode Enabled
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/scn/go/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/30781270-bc11-2a10-2a8d-f890e25e87ca
Translation Tools for Translators
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/77/5719d2492011d1894a0000e829fbbd/frameset.htm
Code Pages
http://help.sap.com/abapdocu/en/ABENCODEPAGE_GLOSRY.htm
http://help.sap.com/abapdocu/en/ABAPSET_LOCALE.htm
Hope you benefit from it!
Cheers,
Varna

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