Possible memory timing problem

Hello, I hope you all can help me. I have been wrestling with this problem for about two weeks and have not been able to fix it.
I recently upgraded my system by adding another gig of memory, setting up a raid array, and adding a X-fi Extreme Music card. Before the upgrade my system ran smoothly for about 10 months. After the upgrade it randomly freezes - the system locks up and won't take any more input from the mouse or keyboard. The only way to recover is to hold the power button down for a few seconds. After that it boots normally and runs perfectly until the next freeze. The freeze can happen at any time, in any application, while the system is idle, or even during bootup. I thought for a long time it was the sound card, but now I suspect my memory timings are off. The problem is, I can't figure out how to adjust them in the BIOS.
My system is this:
CPU: AMD Athalon 64 3500+
Motherboard: K8N Neo2 - Bios 1.B
Memory: 4 sticks of Corair Value Select PC 3200 DDR-400 - 512 meg each
Video: ATI Radon X800 Pro
HD: 2X 74gig Raptors in a raid array (striping)
The only PCI card is the soundcard: Creative X-Fi Extreme Music
Power: Antec Neo Power 480
OS: Windows XP, SP2
I think that's everything, if I am missing something, please let me know. I have run Microsoft's memory test utility overnight, and it has checked out. The memory timing should be 3-3-3-8, but I can't figure out how to set that in the Bios. Also, is there a change I should be making for going from two sticks to four? I don't overclock or anything.
I have been trying to figure this out on my own, but I am coming up short. Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance
Claudius

Hi Claudius. Welcome to the forum. Here are a few tips that will make it easier for you to get help here. Create a sig as described in the forum rules (hint-use profile button in sign-on screen) which will locate all the info about your system in a convenient place at the bottom of each post like I have. It's the same info about your system that you posted in your first post, but having it there in each post makes everyone's life easier. Also indicate whether you have AMD Venice 3500+ (which I think you have).
Timings terminology. It gets confusing because memory specs are listed in different orders when people refer to them, in bios and in post screen. First number should be cas latency (Tcl). Then Ras# to Cas# delay (Trcd). Then Row Precharge Time (Trp). Min Ras# Active time (Tras) is last number although post screen puts it next to last.
Tcl-cas=3
Trcd=3
Trp=3
Tras=8
That's what bios using serial prescence detect (SPD) should pick up under auto for your ram. I doubt bios detected and used Tras 3 like you thought as it would not boot with Tras 3.
Get CPU-Z online for a great tool that gives you a lot of memory info. It shows a lot of info about your chip too. I suspect timings were detected properly or else your machine would not have booted and run.
After you added more identical memory (corsair value select) your machine apparently booted and ran with 2 gigs of ram, at least that is what appears from your post. Microsoft's memory test said things are good. (Don't know what that test is, and if you really want to test it you should use Memtest available online to make a bootable floppy and test memory for about 1 hour.) However, it sounds like your memory is ok and you have some kind of sound card interrupt (IRQ conflict). Did you disable on board sound in bios since you are using a sound card? Try that if you can. If you still get lockups with onboard sound disabled and sound card working, try removing sound card and seeing whether system still locks up.
Good luck.
Edit- In re-reading your post, it may be that system detected Tras 7 instead of Tras 8. You can manually set tras 8 in the bios if you want to, but use CPU-Z first and check CPU-Z memory tab (to see what system is using) and CPU-Z SPD tab (to see what your ram is telling your system to use). I think you will find both are 3,3,3,8. If not, you can always change Tras to 8 in bios and leave everything else on auto. However, you could also change dramm voltage for memory in bios to 2.7 volts without doing anything any harm and this could help memory if you are really having a memory (as opposed to IRQ conflict) problem.

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            return true;
        catch (Exception ex)
            document.ReturnCode = "22";
            document.ReturnMsg = "Exception on generating the pdf";
            Utility.Log("GeneratePdf", "Exception: " + ex.Message, LogLevel.Error);
            return false;
Then We call the ConvertPDF function.
public static bool ConvertPdf(Document document)
        try
            //Create a OutputServiceService object
            OutputServiceService outputClient = new OutputServiceService();
            outputClient.Credentials = new System.Net.NetworkCredential(Settings.ALCUserName, Settings.ALCPassword);
            //Create a BLOB object
            ALCOutputService.BLOB inData = new ALCOutputService.BLOB();
            //Populate the BLOB object
            inData.binaryData = document.PdfData;
            //Set rendering run-time options
            RenderOptionsSpec renderOptions = new RenderOptionsSpec();
            renderOptions.cacheEnabled = true;
            //Create a non-interactive PDF document
            ALCOutputService.BLOB results = outputClient.transformPDF(inData, TransformationFormat.PDF, PDFARevisionNumber.Revision_1, false, null, PDFAConformance.B, false);
            document.PdfData = results.binaryData;
            Utility.Log("ConvertPdf", "Pdf converted successfully.", LogLevel.Info);
            return true;
        catch (Exception ex)
            document.ReturnCode = "22";
            document.ReturnMsg = "Exception on converting dynamic pdf to static pdf";
            Utility.Log("ConvertPdf", "Exception: " + ex.Message, LogLevel.Error);
            return false;
Our System Configuration:
Expiry date: Never Version: 9.0.0.0,
GM Patch Version: SP2
Service Pack Version: unknown
ADOBE® LIVECYCLE® PDF Generator ES2
9.0.0.0
SP2
ADOBE® LIVECYCLE® Reader Extensions ES2
9.0.0.0
SP2
ADOBE® LIVECYCLE® Output ES2
9.0.0.0
SP2
We changed some configuration which is suggested by Adobe. But this change does not solve our problem.
Changed Configurations via ADMINUI
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SUN JSF 1.1_02-b08
Tomahawk 1.1.3
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I am facing memory leak problem while passing object to oracle stored procedure from C++ code.Here I am writing brief description of the code :
1) created objects in oracle with the help of "create or replace type as objects"
2) generated C++ classes corresponding to oracle objects with the help of OTT utility.
3) Instantiating classes in C++ code and assigning values.
4) calling oracle stored procedure and setting object in statement with the help of setObject function.
5) deleted objects.
this is all I am doing ,and getting memory leak , if you need the sample code then please write your e-mail id , so that I can attach files in reply.
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Hi,
I am using oracle 10.2.0.1 and compiling the code with Sun Studio 11, following is the brief dicription of my code :
1) create oracle object :
create or replace type TEST_OBJECT as object
( field1 number(10),
field2 number(10),
field3 number(10) )
2) create table :
create table TEST_TABLE (
f1 number(10),f2 number (10),f3 number (10))
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data IN test_object)
IS
BEGIN
insert into TEST_TABLE( f1,f2,f3) values ( data.field1,data.field2,data.field3);
commit;
end;
4) generate C++ classes along with map file for database object TEST_OBJECT by using Oracle OTT Utility
5) C++ code :
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int main()
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int y = 0;
int z =0;
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pObj->field2 = y++;
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