PowerBook G4 867 Success

A note of hope to those considering installing Leopard on the minimum hardware: I have had virtually no problems at all with it on my pokey G4. It did take up a big chunk of my available harddrive - 8 GB! I had cloned my drive to an external and performed a straight upgrade of 10.5.1. The only issue I have noticed is a bit of a flutter in the menu bar once in awhile - don't know what that's all about. User settings and logins all work as expected. Though I haven't done any power-using yet, speed/response has not degraded at all and Widgets are way cool.
The real story behind my "forced upgrade". I've been dinking along in 10.3.9 for awhile when my parents wondered what to get my daughters for Xmas. I suggested 8GB Nanos. I told them I'd fill them with music when we rolled into town. To my horror, it was only then I discovered these iPods have min system reqs of 10.4.8. AGGHH! 36 hours until Xmas! Within an hour I decided I'd need to upgrade to 10.5 and after reading the support site and discussion boards learned I had the minimum hardware. I was apprehensive to say the least. We would be in ChiTown for lunch with my sis so I would have to get to the Apple store on Michigan Ave to not only buy the system DVD but also a shiny new LaCie d2 500GB (Merry Xmas to me) so I could clone my current boot drive. I wasn't doing this without a safety net.
So back at sis' condo, clone the drive while the Bears put a beat down on the Packers, start the upgrade with apple.com/support up on her Dell Inspiron (blech). 5 hours after leaving the Apple store, I'm booted into Leopard. Back at Mom's, plug in the iPods, download the latest iPod software over Mom's DSL, load 'em up and Presto! That guy putting the tricycle together in wee hours of Xmas morning has got nothing on me. You should've seen those girls faces...

I think I have the same 12" PB 867 G4 with 640MB. Can't add anymore memory. Would upgrade to Leopard if you had it to do over again? I would like to upgrade but am concerned about the performance??

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    Sorry, I don't use the software myself, but have you tried going to their website>support and see if they have any install troubleshooting tips?
    4) I was also wondering...when I updated my real player and msn, I think they were kind of "updated on the spot"...okay that didn't make sense. What I meant was they weren't updated in the application folder. So when I delete the icons on my desktop, the applications stop working as well. Is there a way for me to move those applications to the application folder? I tried, but it denied my attempt because "application cannot be modified"...
    I would suggest going to their website, again, and finding the install instructions and follow them for your version of OSX. Not sure what you mean by the "icons on my desktop" that you deleted but I assume you are referring to the downloaded "install" files? How did you know that they weren't "updated" in your applications folder? Did you do a Get Info on the icons for the apps in your Applications folder to check the version after updating?
    5) My computer has a memory of 640 MB, the processor is 867 MHz. But I'm getting a bit frustrated with the current operating system because everything that Apple offers now requires Mac OS X 10.3.9 and above. I was wondering if my computer run Panther/Tiger and be as fast as it can operate now?
    Your PowerBook G4 867 Mhz 640 MB ram installed is more than adequate to run either Panther or Tiger. But, I would try making sure your Disk is ok first before attempting to upgrade the OS since you appear to be having some problems. They are probably not related to disk corruption but you should boot to your install cd and Repair Disk using Disk Utility on the install cd first to make sure.
    I would try running both, Permissions Repair from your HD and then booting to your install disk and running Repair Disk anyways to see what errors if any you receive. There will undoubtedly be spurious errors running Repair Permissions but if any that cannot be repaired you should note them along with the errors that cannot be repaired with Disk Utility>Repair Disk from your install cd. You should always run Repair Permissions from your Disk Utility on your HD before and after any software installations to have a smoother/successful update/upgrade.
    littleshoulders

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